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And he left them all high and dry at the end.

Blonsky isn't rehabilitated.

 Captain Joystick wrote:

Spoiler:

After making it a plot point in the last episode that she was only being hired for her She-Hulkness and that they expected her to be in that form in the office and in court, she spent the entire parole sequence in Jessica form. Did I miss some dialogue explaining why? Felt like a cost saving measure.

You did. The first time she came to the prison she showed up as She Hulk and the guard immediately stopped her telling her no super powers within the prison. Since the parole takes place inside of Blonski's cell room she has to stay Jenn inside the prison. It's also why the room gets rushed full of guards when Blonski turns into Abomination despite him being calm the entire time.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
And he left them all high and dry at the end.

Blonsky isn't rehabilitated.

Well, won't speak to the latter (it'd be a waste of the Abomination in many ways), but the 'leaving them' at the end wasn't cut and dry to me. I couldn't really tell their emotional reaction in that mess of a shot(it honestly seemed celebratory) and prison bureaucracy being what it is, they have no legal status and the prison (reasonably) won't risk putting unrelated civilians on a prison transport departing from the prison's secure area. Its a little different from the standard Hollywood trope of just pushing paroled prisoners out the front gate, but it didn't tell me anything about Blonsky's intent.

'Cameos' being what they are, I doubt it matters.

So, the guys that tried to mug She-Hulk? Who do we think their boss is?

No idea who their boss is, but for the record those guys were the Wrecking Crew, primarily Thor villains, but they tend to really get around.

It's Fisk, and that's how we end up getting involved with Matt.

 AduroT wrote:
No idea who their boss is, but for the record those guys were the Wrecking Crew, primarily Thor villains, but they tend to really get around.

stupid as they are, the wrecking crew's always been one of my favorite groups of villains. here's hoping they get to show up in other projects, not just an episode or two of she-hulk.

I'm pissed that they add another female superhero to the ranks of shows that my daughter wants to watch, but they slam it so full of stuff no 9 year old should be exposed to that she can barely watch selected clips from it.

 Just Tony wrote:
I'm pissed that they add another female superhero to the ranks of shows that my daughter wants to watch, but they slam it so full of stuff no 9 year old should be exposed to that she can barely watch selected clips from it.

Is that sarcasm? I’m straining to think of much besides Captain America Fu, and Twirking, which were both just short post credits stuff.

Not going to touch parenting, but... its a she-hulk show based on legal comedies like Ally McBeal. It wasn't ever going to be kid-oriented.
At some point its going to hit the obligatory relationship episode/arc and she's going to be topping a guy in the bedroom (well, PG-13 topping). There was a brief look at that in the trailer, so it shouldn't be a surprise.

ccs wrote:

 AduroT wrote:
No idea who their boss is, but for the record those guys were the Wrecking Crew, primarily Thor villains, but they tend to really get around.

stupid as they are, the wrecking crew's always been one of my favorite groups of villains. here's hoping they get to show up in other projects, not just an episode or two of she-hulk.

I too have a fondness for the wrecking crew. I am somehow both happy and disappointed that they seem even more low-rent than their comic-book counterparts. I seem to remember that they hung out with Absorbing Man quite a bit....

I'm wondering on the source of their glowing blue accouterments. Reactivated Chitauri tech bought from Adrian Toomes?

Nicked from an Asgardian Construction worker

MarkNorfolk wrote:

I'm wondering on the source of their glowing blue accouterments. Reactivated Chitauri tech bought from Adrian Toomes?

It's Asgardian tech. Jen comments on this as they confront her.

Alright, three episodes in and I really like it so far. I didn't mind the post credits scene for episode 3, it was goofy and intended that way. People will look back on twerking as.... twerking. It's just twerking, it's a dance move. Come on.

Humor is pretty good. CGI needs work but that is the case with almost everything CGI. All of the cameos have been A+, even Abomination. Wish it was a little longer, I was hoping for 45 minutes.

Overall, enjoying it so far. Look forward to the next 6.

ccs wrote:

MarkNorfolk wrote:

I'm wondering on the source of their glowing blue accouterments. Reactivated Chitauri tech bought from Adrian Toomes?

It's Asgardian tech. Jen comments on this as they confront her.

Between that and the Light Elf it seems like New Asgard is playing a semi-prominent role in this.

 Ahtman wrote:

ccs wrote:

MarkNorfolk wrote:

I'm wondering on the source of their glowing blue accouterments. Reactivated Chitauri tech bought from Adrian Toomes?

It's Asgardian tech. Jen comments on this as they confront her.

Between that and the Light Elf it seems like New Asgard is playing a semi-prominent role in this.

Maybe. Or it's just bits that emphasize that New Asgard/Asgardians are involved in thier new world vs just whatever you see in a movie involving Thor.

At the moment Asgard is a good "has powers" shorthand until they get Mutants rolling.

Wrecking Crew was definitely a treat.

Easily one of the best 4th wall breaks. Particularly since she takes her hands off the wheel to chat with us.

 LunarSol wrote:
At the moment Asgard is a good "has powers" shorthand until they get Mutants rolling.

That was my thought as well. They're an established source of 'super-stuff' that doesn't require any explanation or long-winded 'how did this get here and how does it work?'

And also functions as a 'you may also like....' advertising that isn't 'Thor: Love and Thunder on D+ next week' level of hammer to the face.

Having now read up on the Wrecking Crew, and suddenly remembering I have seen them in my various collected version comics?

I’m glad they made them look a bit silly. Especially their attempt at looking badass!

Finished Ms. Marvel...... anything that wasn't about her mysterious past or super heroics was really fun.... the mysterious past and super heroics were middling.

Sadly I think the super heroics would have been a lot more fun if they weren't caught up in the mysterious past stuff.

But….that’s integral to her Character?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
But….that’s integral to her Character?

Is it though? At least in terms of season 1 stuff? Her main driving motivations in the core story of the series is her family/community and her love of superheroes. The strongest material from the series is the dynamic between her, her persona, her family, her community, and the DoDC. The mysterious past origins stuff is an extension of her family, but that's why it feels awkward where it sits in the story. It's not integral to the character, its something to expand on once the character wraps up her foundational story.

I'm surprised how many people seem to be taking the "Asgardian construction worker" comment at face value.

I mean... Its basically their actual story. And the construction tools are all covered in runes and gak.

I would like to see them get the lightning/whatever transferring some of the power from the items to the people bit. But i am happy to have them around being weird super powered goons.

 LunarSol wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
But….that’s integral to her Character?

Is it though? At least in terms of season 1 stuff? Her main driving motivations in the core story of the series is her family/community and her love of superheroes. The strongest material from the series is the dynamic between her, her persona, her family, her community, and the DoDC. The mysterious past origins stuff is an extension of her family, but that's why it feels awkward where it sits in the story. It's not integral to the character, its something to expand on once the character wraps up her foundational story.

And its pretty much completely separate from the comics where she’s an Inhuman and that’s just kind of accepted at face value. There’s an occasional debate with Bruno on the nature of her powers, but none of that exploring the past stuff. The DODC however comes across as rather similar in function to the recent CRADLE storyline with her and Champions, though definitely not a one for one mind you. They shouldn’t have debuted her with a Fate Of The World storyline and left her with more street level stuff.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
But….that’s integral to her Character?

But not to the story.

The whole flashback/time travel episode existed purely to confirm something that we already knew: That the 'lights' Kamala's grandmother followed were created by time travelling Kamala. It was a diversion that just slowed everything down. And the Clan Destine side of the story was weak from the get-go, with 1-dimensional bad guys who didn't really do much and exited the plot almost as quickly as they entered it.

Yeah, my biggest complaint about the Ms Marvel show was the constant introduction and resolution of different antagonists. None of them stuck around long enough to build any emotional connections and stakes. If you ditched the Clan Destine and probably the Red Daggers and just dealt with Kamala dealing with her family, some street level crime she is trying to be a local hero about, and DoDC coming after her there would have been more focus on the personal relationships and they would have had more time to breath.

It would have been more about WHO she is then WHERE she came from. Which is think is the stronger story for her character.

 Lance845 wrote:
Yeah, my biggest complaint about the Ms Marvel show was the constant introduction and resolution of different antagonists. None of them stuck around long enough to build any emotional connections and stakes. If you ditched the Clan Destine and probably the Red Daggers and just dealt with Kamala dealing with her family, some street level crime she is trying to be a local hero about, and DoDC coming after her there would have been more focus on the personal relationships and they would have had more time to breath.

It would have been more about WHO she is then WHERE she came from. Which is think is the stronger story for her character.

Yeah, so much this. Doing this would have elevated a good show to a great one. 6 episodes was just not enough to do justice to all the things they wanted to touch on. Ditto for most of the D+ shows if I'm being honest.

 creeping-deth87 wrote:
Ditto for most of the D+ shows if I'm being honest.

This I don't really agree with. I think FatWS is full on great. Wanda Visions failures are an issue of circumstance. The pandemic really fethed with it's production. I kind of place it in the same boat as Quantum of Solace and the writers strike. It's fething amazing it is what it is considering what it went through. Loki, fuckin killing it. Moon Knight, great. Final fight only falls apart in that the big bad fight was a little flat considering all the great character building.

Ms Marvel is unique in that it didn't seem to have a central through line. A steady conflict that built throughout the show to be resolved. It just kept leaping from problem to problem after discarding the last one.