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godswildcard wrote:That video is good and kind of solidifies the idea that they had when they released AoS in 2015. I wish it had come out then.

My biggest complaint with AoS to date has been that it's NOT WHFB, and that they destroyed that setting to make something completely different. I understand why people disliked WHFB, even if some of that was internet hyperbole, but I still feel like they could've transitioned better. Essentially, because of the way GW went about it, they alienated a big chunk of people that really could've helped AoS at the start.

All that aside, I'm finally starting to get over my own hang ups with the setting, I'm finally coming to terms with AoS as a different game entirely rather than what I consider a failed WHFB reboot, and I'll admit that this video actually helps with all that. Prior to having this explained in this way (I'm firmly in the 'I'm not gonna buy 10 Battletomes just to have the lore I need to understand what the heck is going on' camp), my view of the mortal realms was just this infinite series of planets (I kind of got the feeling of almost multiple galaxies in each realm after reading the first couple of books) where the background team and fluff-writers could literally do whatever they wanted to do with no consequence. This changes quite a bit if each realm, of which there are a finite number, is just essentially one large planet connected by the realm gates. Now things can happen that have real consequence and battles may actually begin to matter.

I'll be watching this intently. I'm interested to see where they take this and if it will add enough to the setting to get me to start a proper AoS army.


Glad you've decided to give the game and setting a chance. Welcome! I definitely think this type of video should have come out when AoS released, but I honestly don't know that He Who Shall Not Be Named had this sort of setting in mind when he blew up the Old World. Hopefully, we'll get more designer's notes in the future. It reminds me a lot of Dev Diary posts for video games in development.

Mymearan wrote:I think my new favourite new thing (new for me) is that the realms are at their most stable, and thus populated, in the middle. This means that even though the actual realms are enormous, the settled area is much smaller, which means that conquering a limited part of the realm doesn’t feel as meaningless.


I like this, too. The realms themselves "may as well be infinite", but the space that is stable enough to be habitable is very finite. Now we know what we're fighting for control of.

Adeptus Doritos wrote:So, would it be too much to hope for new Warriors of Chaos sprues?

I am thinking it is.


Honestly, my Chaos Warriors are still some of my favorite models. They've aged surprisingly well. I wouldn't mind get some new Marauders, though (Maybe with javelins so we could have just a little more ranged?).

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 Mr Morden wrote:
 godswildcard wrote:
All e, I'm finally starting to get over my own hang ups with the setting, I'm finally coming to terms with AoS as a different game entirely rather than what I consider a failed WHFB reboot, and I'll admit that this video actually helps with all that. Prior to having this explained in this way (I'm firmly in the 'I'm not gonna buy 10 Battletomes just to have the lore I need to understand what the heck is going on' camp), my view of the mortal realms was just this infinite series of planets (I kind of got the feeling of almost multiple galaxies in each realm after reading the first couple of books) where the background team and fluff-writers could literally do whatever they wanted to do with no consequence. This changes quite a bit if each realm, of which there are a finite number, is just essentially one large planet connected by the realm gates. Now things can happen that have real consequence and battles may actually begin to matter.



Looking at the scale of the realm-spheres shown in the video - the individual realms are much bigger than that, it looks like several hundred (maybe more) continent sized landmasses in each - so more like the Ringworld or Dyson Sphere scale. So whilst its not infinite each is truly vast and this fits with the fluff info thus far. Few of the larger landmasses that we have had described in the books are linked directly except by realmgates and the distances that are talked about are gigantic.

I was pleased to see a basic timeline but it would be really awesome to have some sort of calendar or way of measuring dates - there are occasional references in the books but these are very very rare.!


Indeed, the realms are enormous beyond belief. Hammerhal itself is stated to be continent-sized with it's two realm spanning city. I also believe it was noted by the devs that the entire Old World map could comfortably fit in the Realm of Life map we were given which is impressive considering it was only a section of the overall realm of life.

Put that on top of some realms having multiple planes to them and the edges continually growing by the magic atmosphere forming together and you still have near-endless possibilities for the realms. (and then there's the combined footnotes that the All-points lead to other worlds pre-age of chaos and the gargants are believed by scholars to come from such places)

Agreed on a chronological list being a treat. Especially if each realm has to go by different time-route due to a curious nature like Ghur's sun behaving unpredictably like an animal (which the scholar in the story notes makes time-keeping a real bother ).



This changes quite a bit if each realm, of which there are a finite number, is just essentially one large planet connected by the realm gates. Now things can happen that have real consequence and battles may actually begin to matter. 


Haha, I guess it depends on what battles you mean?

The overarching Realmgate wars to stop the endless chaos reinforcements and the Seeds of Hope war to establish the first major civilizations were certainly consequential and vital for the realms being taken back from chaos.
   
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 Mr Morden wrote:
 godswildcard wrote:
All that aside, I'm finally starting to get over my own hang ups with the setting, I'm finally coming to terms with AoS as a different game entirely rather than what I consider a failed WHFB reboot, and I'll admit that this video actually helps with all that. Prior to having this explained in this way (I'm firmly in the 'I'm not gonna buy 10 Battletomes just to have the lore I need to understand what the heck is going on' camp), my view of the mortal realms was just this infinite series of planets (I kind of got the feeling of almost multiple galaxies in each realm after reading the first couple of books) where the background team and fluff-writers could literally do whatever they wanted to do with no consequence. This changes quite a bit if each realm, of which there are a finite number, is just essentially one large planet connected by the realm gates. Now things can happen that have real consequence and battles may actually begin to matter.



Looking at the scale of the realm-spheres shown in the video - the individual realms are much bigger than that, it looks like several hundred (maybe more) continent sized landmasses in each - so more like the Ringworld or Dyson Sphere scale. So whilst its not infinite each is truly vast and this fits with the fluff info thus far. Few of the larger landmasses that we have had described in the books are linked directly except by realmgates and the distances that are talked about are gigantic.

I was pleased to see a basic timeline but it would be really awesome to have some sort of calendar or way of measuring dates - there are occasional references in the books but these are very very rare.!


Each of those landmasses are most likely far larger than a continent. As Hammerhal is sated to be the size of a continent by itself, But is only a dot on the map in firestorm.
   
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NZ preorders are up! OMG! the GUO is sitting on a Nurgling! That is way more humorous than it should be!

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We'll find out soon enough eh.

I must need some caffeine or something - I thought the Bilepiper was this week as well?

I need to acquire plastic Skavenslaves, can you help?
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 Yodhrin wrote:
I must need some caffeine or something - I thought the Bilepiper was this week as well?


I thought that too, however ...

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/12/31/pre-order-preview-new-year-nurgle-begins/

Reading the Warhammer Community article again, although it has a photo of the bilepiper, it doesn’t actually say he’s being released this week. Confusing.
   
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The new models are released over two weeks

https://imgur.com/a/8v2Of

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What I like is that Nagash is so self aware in this video also is it the same voice actor from the audio drama? ANYWAY HYPE HYPE HYPE. Right gotta switch back to my mannfred avatar.




Also each Mortarch has a legion, along with Nagash himself having one. You know way back when when I said Death should have rules depending on which Mortarch you use? GW went for it!




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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/01/06/new-year-new-armies-reveals-new-years-open-day/

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I like the idea of having Tzaangor in 40k. Wonder, if they're going to add Kairic Acolytes with las pistols.
   
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 Knight wrote:
I like the idea of having Tzaangor in 40k. Wonder, if they're going to add Kairic Acolytes with las pistols.


I think they are just going to add the tzaangors hence why they showed the art of them. So if you want a tzaangor army in 40k? You can do it.
   
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Yo check the marauder next to the chieftain with the spiked shield, gotta be a new model. Please oh please.

Always love me some new artwork.

I just pray this Death Battletome doesn't mean there won't be any new models for Death. Some plastic Vampires to go along with those new Soulblight allegiance would be much appreciated.

Edit: help me fam, I bought a Mortarch but I'm stuck on who to choose. Finished the Undying King and was in love with Neferata. But then I didn't expect to find Arkhan so 'human,' he actually seems like a nice guy if you are on his side. Plus he got the TK swagger goin on. They have the banter together. I am conflicteeeeeed.

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 unmercifulconker wrote:


Yo check the marauder next to the chieftain with the spiked shield, gotta be a new model. Please oh please.

Always love me some new artwork.

I just pray this Death Battletome doesn't mean there won't be any new models for Death. Some plastic Vampires to go along with those new Soulblight allegiance would be much appreciated.


you’ll find the warscrolls for every single Death model (so far…)

I think we are getting some new models but not too many, like the blight kings death kinda got a lot of new models for end times(they were for AOS). I do agree that we need a plastic vampire, plastic blood knights and new zombies. Those are my three wants and on my wish list? A plastic liche wizard.

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Aye I hope that is a little tease.

New Soulblight kits, vampires, blood knights and bats, along with zombies (maybe skeletons? They aint too bad) and re-releasing the Tomb King constructs, Ushabtis, Sphynxs and Necropolis and I would be one happy lad.

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 unmercifulconker wrote:
Aye I hope that is a little tease.

New Soulblight kits, vampires, blood knights and bats, along with zombies (maybe skeletons? They aint too bad) and re-releasing the Tomb King constructs, Ushabtis, Sphynxs and Necropolis and I would be one happy lad.


Doing more for Deathrattle would be good with the Tomb Kings

but yeah i really want some more Soulblight - male and female Blood Knights, some courtier types and of course the Vampire pirates they mentioned before,

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from Siege Studios on facebook, this shows the size of the GUO against the older stuff


 
   
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OK, so the new one’s sword is nearly bigger than the entire old one? And so is the bell?

Glad to see the kit is flexible WRT which hands and heads and guts combo together too.

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Holy Moly, those new guys are big!

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By 1-irt: Still as long as Hissy keeps showing up this is one of the most entertaining threads ever.

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Holy crap. I have the current (until now) metal GUO. That new one is fething enormous!!!

   
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So looking at the artwork it see.s Nagash pissed of everyone else bad enough that Order,Chaos and Destruction are allied against death.

Could make some interesting armies if that follows through from fluff to rules.

Your last point is especially laughable and comical, because not only the 7th ed Valkyrie shown dumber things (like being able to throw the troopers without parachutes out of its hatches, no harm done) - Irbis 
   
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New Marauders, new Zombies, new ANYthing for Undead, would be sooo good. Things that were needed for WHFB already and even more years later. Basically anything not Sigmarines or Chaos.

The Shadespire skellies are a great improvement on the already good looking current skellies, just way more durable without that spine connection point, so any potentially spindly units Death may get will probably be like that. Hopefully something like Mandrakes or Cairn Wraiths as a full unit with swirling cloaks and curved blades everywhere.

I find the three Mortarchs a bit boring compared to the vast variety offered by the old bloodlines and Khemri, but, ehh, I had my chance to buy a Necrosphinx or two, I guess. Vampire Pirates being a faction with real support doesn't fully make up for losing Egyptian Undead and Bretonnia to use as Blood Dragon conversion material. Still, I have several ideas for Undead so most releases would help in some form.

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 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
from Siege Studios on facebook, this shows the size of the GUO against the older stuff



We've come a long way.
   
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(Sees new Nagash book and hosts )

Ha, good luck Nurgle! Nagash is going to annihilate yo-

(Sees mountain of plastic that is the GUO)

Holy shi- run, Death, run!

(Edit: also haha, Carstienian forest, good one. )

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Eh, gotta wait again before I can do my undead fan fiction. Need to wait for the new tome. :<
   
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New GUO looks to be bigger than the "Exalted" Forge World One
   
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There's a Nurgling with flail I hadn't seen before. Nice.

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I would love to get both the Stormcast and the Warqueen for my personal forces, but damn, I cringe at spending that much money for two figures.

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 AegisGrimm wrote:
I would love to get both the Stormcast and the Warqueen for my personal forces, but damn, I cringe at spending that much money.

We have prices yet?

Cause I haven't seen prices. Them being in a box doesn't mean jack necessarily.
   
 
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