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demon prince mon with nurgles rot and demon weapon
1 chaos lord on bike with mon melta bombs and demon weapon
20 chaos bikers with mon all plasmas
20 death guard in rhinos with demonic possession all plasmas
20 chaos spawn!!!!!
what to improve

erm any one?

drop four spawn for a DP w/MoN and nurgles rot at 160pt

That list looks Tough man and T6 bikers thats nasty, i think this army list will work bu as warsmith said you cud do with getting a deamon prince in their for ubber nastiness

i may consider it

What points level is this even at?

Why in the world would you run a list like that? Taking 30 spawn is the worst idea I have ever heard of!

30 d6 attacks and 90 wounds altogether erm i dont think so?

Nurgle bikers are not fearless and its possible to sweep them. shooting with sternguard (poison shots) will do the trik also..

Let a dreadnought fight against the bikes and spawns and there beaten..

a few skimmers can bring you down..

your plague marines will still hold objectives so its going to be a lot of draw's I think..

Dont need Daemonic Possession on the Rhinos, so you could shave 5 points off per Rhino if you give them Extra Armour instead... though what is a few points when you have 30 Spawn (!?!?)

30 Spawn is 1200 points... wow. That's a lot of points that could be spent better elsewhere.

no its not!!!

If you had ever played with spawn you would realise just how bad they are. 30d6 attacks sounds good on paper but they are slow and purposeful so it will take them a few turns to get there. They have 90 wounds between them but not particularly high toughness and no armour save so they will die in droves to shooting.

This list is terrible. What were you thinking.

1200 points on models with SaP and D6 attacks?
thats insanity!

i could take 2 biker nob units for that price! (not that i'd even take 1)

also 3 wounds and toughness 5

Typhus. Really. Get over it. Spawn are bad. Everyone is pointing out exactly why they are bad and your only possible response is "Nuh uh! Lalalalalalalalala I can't hear you~!"

Regwon wrote:If you had ever played with spawn you would realise just how bad they are. 30d6 attacks sounds good on paper but they are slow and purposeful so it will take them a few turns to get there. They have 90 wounds between them but not particularly high toughness and no armour save so they will die in droves to shooting.

This list is terrible. What were you thinking.

i have played with spawn ALOT!!!

If you had ever played with spawn you would realise just how bad they are. 30d6 attacks sounds good on paper but they are slow and purposeful so it will take them a few turns to get there. They have 90 wounds between them but not particularly high toughness and no armour save so they will die in droves to shooting.

This list is terrible. What were you thinking.

i have played with spawn ALOT!!!
i won every game i played with this army so is that a good enough answer???
also t 5 is fairly high

Wow, you have won every game with this list. It doesn't really tell much to me... spawns are only good when they are made of hostile characters (gift of chaos).

typhus wrote:no its not!!!

/facepalm

i got to admit that i don't know what points level you're aiming at
please make that clear first.

4000

If your playing this a apoc level then just have as many plague marines and land raiders as you can with nurgle sorcs on bikes with dreads w/plasma cannons(you know how I love my dreads )

Is this a joke? You think that this list is a good 4000 point army!!!!!?????? Tell me you are just trying to troll everyone. have you realized, that if your opponent has 1 LR and moves it close to your spawn, that those 1200 points of jibbering madness will spend the rest of the game just mindlessly attacking a unit they cannot hurt? Spawn are only good when you create them with gifts of chaos. a T5 3 wound model with no save, and mindless is not good for 40 points. think about it this way. for THE SAME points cost, your opponent could take a BLOODCRUSHER! Which has 2 wounds, T5 S5 a 3+save furious charge 3 attacks ans power weapons!! Also, it is worth noting that for 1200 points you could take 3 brass scorpions! So which would you rather have, 30 spawn, or 3 brass scorpions? 30 spawn, or 30 bloodcrushers? 30 spawn, or 40 terminators? Just stop and think for a minute and you will see just how bad of an idea it is to take 30 spawn.

the bottom line is, take 30 spawn is a terrible, terrible, idea.

typhus wrote:4000

The truly sad part is, when I read this I was thinking "huh, if this fits in 1750, it could be a fun/mildly tough game for my 1750 army".

At 4000, good lord this is an atrociously bad army.

You've won every game with that list? Time to find a new gaming group.

Dude, a CC army like Khornate CSM or Ghazghkull's Horde could absolutely wipe the floor with your list. Assloads of Spawn are so effing terrible it's beyond words. T5 means nothing when you don't generate NEARLY enough attacks to stop even their most basic units. You have no save IIRC, so 3 Wounds doesn't matter either. Oh you've got a lot of Bikers, cool that'll help me get into CC faster.

i hate to agree with the above posters but i will. Spawn are seriously not worth the points, the models are wonderful and if you are going for a cool looking army it is ok but gaming wise they ae realy not that effective, at 4000pts i would recomend alot more tanks

i still dont fully agree with every one but i might consider dropping 10 of them for points

typhus wrote:i still dont fully agree with every one but i might consider dropping 10 of them for points

1200pts gets me...40 genestealers with scything talons, toxin sacs, acid maw, and implant attacks:

ws 6
bs 0
s 5
t 4
w 1
i 6
a 3
ld 10
sv 5+

Rending claws, re-rolling to wound rolls in the first round of combat, and each wound caused on a model that is unsaved turns into 2 wounds. I'm striking before you always. I have 120 attacks if you charge, and 160 attacks if I charge. If I charge you cause I am faster (fleet bitches your SaP) that's what like 100 odd attacks hitting of which 18 or so auto wound and thus cause 2 wounds on each of the wounded (36 wounds gone), then like 40 more wounds translating to another 80 wounds and re-rolls on the failed wounds meaning another 20 odd wounds translating to 40 wounds total and you have 30 dead spawn.

Well done.

Heck, I'd even model those Stealers purely so I could play your army.

Oh it's 4,000 pts is it? I'll just bring along 96 gargoyles, and 96 WoN Gaunts and spam the Monstrous creatures to really lay the smackdown.


You're posting on dakkadakka here. Ignore what everyone posts, go right ahead, Spawn are okay but as a whole they are very rarely used because they suck balls. You're posting on a board where powergamers live and you're ignoring everything everyone is saying. EVERYONE. Except you. Heck, I'd take your entire army with just expensive genestealer spam and then whose laughing?

Auretious Taak.

4,000 pts, damn but that blows.

Perhaps there is a misunderstanding here. Clearly, there is some kind of confusion. I think I might know what it is. Typhus; would you please explain to me why spawn are so good and what their stat line is?

There is no cheese.

In the year 40,000, there is no cheese?

Sad year...