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tneva82 wrote:
So stuff you can get in plastic.

Disagree. While the Mk.III plastics are good, the Mk. IV ones are pretty weak designs in comparison with their resin counter-parts. Legs in particular have no dynamism at all and the helmets just aren't the same. The only advantage they have is price, though that is admittedly a compelling factor.

Hell, not being resin si also a compelling factor.

 Elbows wrote:
Hell, not being resin si also a compelling factor.

True though I'll take Forgeworld Resin over failcast every time.

 sockwithaticket wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
So stuff you can get in plastic.

Disagree. While the Mk.III plastics are good, the Mk. IV ones are pretty weak designs in comparison with their resin counter-parts. Legs in particular have no dynamism at all and the helmets just aren't the same. The only advantage they have is price, though that is admittedly a compelling factor.

How many dynamic legs do you really need on your grunts though?

Modeling wise yeah it's a loss, but I think it's one we will get over pretty quickly.

Not a surprisingly loss, but i'm still waiting on plastic mk II armor. Which is featured heavily in the early heresy, and in the betrayal book. Mk III is just a clunky meh up armored version of an armor set that is cool on its own.

I had grand hopes they would have inexplicably done a third boxed game featuring plastic MkVI myself...(sigh)

I'm with Thargrim - I'm usually too tight to shell out for FW, so I was really hoping that they'd start releasing all the marks in plastic - particularly the Mk II (I'd also love to see Mk V - pre-requisite for me starting Carcharadons ). As for Mk IV - all mine have been converted to Destroyer/Void Hardened, which, IMHO, is the best looking mark of all.

 Thargrim wrote:
Not a surprisingly loss, but i'm still waiting on plastic mk II armor. Which is featured heavily in the early heresy, and in the betrayal book. Mk III is just a clunky meh up armored version of an armor set that is cool on its own.

Honestly I'm mostly looking forward to Mk5 myself. STUDS EVERYWHERE!

 Warpig1815 wrote:
I'm with Thargrim - I'm usually too tight to shell out for FW, so I was really hoping that they'd start releasing all the marks in plastic - particularly the Mk II (I'd also love to see Mk V - pre-requisite for me starting Carcharadons ). As for Mk IV - all mine have been converted to Destroyer/Void Hardened, which, IMHO, is the best looking mark of all.

This. This right here. It looks so BADASS it hurts. But...

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 Thargrim wrote:
Not a surprisingly loss, but i'm still waiting on plastic mk II armor. Which is featured heavily in the early heresy, and in the betrayal book. Mk III is just a clunky meh up armored version of an armor set that is cool on its own.

Honestly I'm mostly looking forward to Mk5 myself. STUDS EVERYWHERE!

Mk V is the daddy.

Dr. Mills wrote:

 Warpig1815 wrote:
I'm with Thargrim - I'm usually too tight to shell out for FW, so I was really hoping that they'd start releasing all the marks in plastic - particularly the Mk II (I'd also love to see Mk V - pre-requisite for me starting Carcharadons ). As for Mk IV - all mine have been converted to Destroyer/Void Hardened, which, IMHO, is the best looking mark of all.

This. This right here. It looks so BADASS it hurts. But...

Oh yeah And doing Salamanders, I get the perfect excuse to go wild - Vulkan outlawed Destroyer units and rad munitions. So it stands to reason all those shiny, shiny Destroyer suits get folded into line company units... Destroyers for everyone

Sneaky buggers. Snagged the Tartaros squad for my Sons of Medusa army.

tneva82 wrote:
So stuff you can get in plastic.

Not really, these are 40K Tartaros Terminators. Not that people particularly cared, arming their collections with piles of armour 10.000 years out of date, but still, kinda pity to see these go...

But you can get Tartaros Terminators in plastic.

I think he means these Tartaros were somehow different or upgraded for 40K instead of 30K? I dunno.

Is it just me or the Chaos Warhound Titan Body vanished from the store?
Some of the weapons are still there, the Vulcan Mega Bolter is Out of Stock,
but no body to be found...?

 Elbows wrote:
I think he means these Tartaros were somehow different or upgraded for 40K instead of 30K? I dunno.

Well there are two different listings on the FW site. Anyone know what the differences are?

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 Elbows wrote:
I think he means these Tartaros were somehow different or upgraded for 40K instead of 30K? I dunno.

Well there are two different listings on the FW site. Anyone know what the differences are?

The Legion version lacks the Aquila and Terminator Honour found on the regular version as those both post date the Heresy. The Legion version is instead plain on the pads and has Crusade era symbols (if any) on the chests as well as the studs indicating they are patch jobs made as the Heresy fights on. The GW plastic version is styled like the Legion version with crusade symbols and no Crux Terminatus or Aquila.

Just how different are the resin Cataphractii leg and arm poses to those of plastic versions?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
But you can get Tartaros Terminators in plastic.

One of the Tartaros kits being discontinued is the one with the crux terminatus on the shoulders

 FrothingMuppet wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 Elbows wrote:
I think he means these Tartaros were somehow different or upgraded for 40K instead of 30K? I dunno.

Well there are two different listings on the FW site. Anyone know what the differences are?

The Legion version lacks the Aquila and Terminator Honour found on the regular version as those both post date the Heresy. The Legion version is instead plain on the pads and has Crusade era symbols (if any) on the chests as well as the studs indicating they are patch jobs made as the Heresy fights on. The GW plastic version is styled like the Legion version with crusade symbols and no Crux Terminatus or Aquila.

My understanding is that the aquila existed during the Heresy, but was a relatively uncommon battle honour, rather than near-ubiquitous.

Crux Terminatus is definitely post-Heresy.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
But you can get Tartaros Terminators in plastic.

They have crux terminatus and chest emblems (with various Codex terminator honours) loyalists adopted post HH to both show the fact they are loyalists and differentiate themselves from traitors.

The plastic Tartaros termies have raptor / lighting bolts emblem. Which, according to HH books by FW, means the wearer fought under the command of Emperor himself, possibly met him, and vastly more likely than not, is original Terran legionnaire, a veteran of the proto-legions, and not post-Primarch-finding recruit from Legion's newly adopted home planet.

While I do prefer plastic's 'no nonsense' plain look, befitting assault armour, you'd think if a Chapter really had armour belonging to one of the very first Legion recruits, armour blessed by Emperor's presence in the same room, with official proof of it to boot, by now it would be covered with 17 layers of gold sculptures instead of being mass-produced, standard issue handed out like candy.

 zedmeister wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
But you can get Tartaros Terminators in plastic.

One of the Tartaros kits being discontinued is the one with the crux terminatus on the shoulders

Buy one and then make a greenstuff mold so you can put a crux terminatus on your plastic Termies

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mkiv; mkiii; & tartaros termies are all being discontinued (w/o warning)

Pretty soon they'll discontinue 30/40k

 BaronIveagh wrote:
Pretty soon they'll discontinue 30/40k

I like some of the Xeno 40k stuff, but I wouldn’t shed a tear for 30k. Of course, I’m not a marine player and have no desire to start so discontinuing the 18 30k Legion Dreadnoughts wouldn’t bother me one bit.

They just released a finance report with HH as one of their 3 primary lines. It's not going anywhere.

 sockwithaticket wrote:
They just released a finance report with HH as one of their 3 primary lines. It's not going anywhere.

Yeah, and how many now discontinued minis are featured in recent books and mags?

Not sure, I don't have the disposable income to keep up with GWs published output even if I had the inclination.

I know it feels like a lot has gone recently, but the overwhelming majority of the 30k stuff available. Most of what disappeared were decorative items or things that have a plastic version (and that sell poorly). I'd rather they hadn't gone, but I can understand it. The discontinuation of the HH isn't on the cards while they still have so many Primarchs left to do and the Siege of Terra to cover.

 BaronIveagh wrote:
Pretty soon they'll discontinue 30/40k

Naah. Why shut down cash cow. They take out poorly selling items that costs more to keep up than they generate profit? Whopedoo. Doesn't stop people from making 30k armies.

tneva82 wrote:

 BaronIveagh wrote:
Pretty soon they'll discontinue 30/40k

Naah. Why shut down cash cow. They take out poorly selling items that costs more to keep up than they generate profit? Whopedoo. Doesn't stop people from making 30k armies.

Very true. We are just seeing an evolution of the business plan. Early on we saw FW experiment with a lot of full kits, upgrades, character models, etc... Now that they have their data they can make more informed choices of what kits to make and how many units they can expect to sell. At this point it seems that blood bowl and specialist games are a focus which may be a good thing for those of us with a backlog of HH kits. It gives us time for our workbenches to clear and our wallets to recover.