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I have 220pts to spare on my fluffy Iron Warrios list and I'm not sure which dreadnought options I should take for the two dreads running side by side.Before you ask the heavy support slots are filled with deamonically possed vindicators.This is for a 1500pt list.

So now it's up to you to help me make my decision

P.S. There is no closing date on this poll

Edit: To title

Multimelta and dccw. Point it at the enemy and keep it away from your vindicators.

Chaos dreads are for close combat, not shooting. Dual dccw looks good on paper, but in practice those dreads get immobilized and then ignored. With a multimelta you project a 12" radius no-go zone for enemy vehicles even if immobilized at a cost of only 1 close combat attack.

12" no fly zone and a 24" hot zone. Remember it effects your own fellas too, so be careful! Also, per the current codex, it always turns to face the closest unit, not just the closest visible unit anymore, which is part of what makes it so dangerous. It is very likely to fry your own people in the early stages of the game. The dread was alot "safer" in the 3.5 codex.

whitedragon wrote:12" no fly zone and a 24" hot zone. Remember it effects your own fellas too, so be careful! Also, per the current codex, it always turns to face the closest unit, not just the closest visible unit anymore, which is part of what makes it so dangerous. It is very likely to fry your own people in the early stages of the game. The dread was alot "safer" in the 3.5 codex.

Read the codex. It still says "closest visible unit." 4th ed visibility rules said this could be behind the dread. 5th ed rules do not, but expect any player you try to convince otherwise to pitch a fit.

Well, I always be very careful with my Chaos Dread, an EC FW model.
I'd give him 2 dccw's and let him run towards the enemy.

The idea of two DCCW has occured to me ,but the list I have has plenty of anti-tank and anti-horde but lacks any thing to get transports and the like at long range so I thought that the autocannon or plasma would be suited for this and the heavy bolters are good for taking out tough troops(another thing I lack at long range)

I run mine with a plasma cannon, and DCCW/Heavy Flamer.

I also run a Land Raider. Which is nice, because when the dread malfunctions and shoots at my own stuff, the land raider is closest, and the plasma cannon cannot hurt the landraider

Yes the plasma cannon is good when there is a land raider on the field,but I don't have one .I was thinking that a missle launcher is a good idea cause should the dreaded 1 be rolled I would have frag shots that can be directed at the other dread and nothing bad happens and the heavy flamer would do nothing either

Missile Launcher.

willydstyle wrote:

whitedragon wrote:12" no fly zone and a 24" hot zone. Remember it effects your own fellas too, so be careful! Also, per the current codex, it always turns to face the closest unit, not just the closest visible unit anymore, which is part of what makes it so dangerous. It is very likely to fry your own people in the early stages of the game. The dread was alot "safer" in the 3.5 codex.

Read the codex. It still says "closest visible unit." 4th ed visibility rules said this could be behind the dread. 5th ed rules do not, but expect any player you try to convince otherwise to pitch a fit.

I mispoke, but the dread is still dangerous. In the 3.5 chaos dex, the dread had to fire at the closest "enemy" unit unless there were no enemy units visible, then it defaulted to closest friendlies if visible, then Blood Rage if there was nobody around. In the 4th edition book (current book), the dread has to fire at the closest visible unit, friend or foe. Well, page 72 of the 5th ed book states that "when firing a walker's weapons, pivot the walker on the spot so that it's guns are facing at the target." This represents the walker's agility over normal vehicles. It also goes on to say that this facing is important because it means the dread could end up facing the wrong direction come the next turn and have its rear exposed to enemy fire.

So basically, the 4th ed chaos codex, plus the 5th ed rules, mean that if any of your own guys are near your dread when it goes fire frenzy, they are going to get lit up. There is no way around this, especially since just about nothing blocks LOS in 5th anymore. So, Mr. Dreadnought, enjoy your spot on the shelf for the next couple of years.

I'd take ML and CCW or 2 CCW. The Launcher lets you fire frags at your transport. Any other weapons has a really good chance of wasting whatever of yours happens to be closest. You'll always need to take a CCW for his rage and you don't want too powerful a gun for his Fire Frenzy. As was said above, you do however want a gun if he gets immobilized. Missile Launcher has a great effective range and is versitile.

About the Fire Frenzy, RAI for fracks sake. He kills your own dudes, but you can build around it. He's cheap for what he does because he has draw backs.

Multimelta if you don't have a lot of anti-tank in the army already. TL-Autocannons if you need some anti-light tank, it has the added benefit of not being too dangerous to your Marines if he goes crazy. Dual DCCW (+extra armor possibly) if you want cheap and killy, but I don't like this configuration too much as if he gets immobilized he's useless.

I run one with dual DCCW. Most of the time people either pour fire onto him or ignore him so I rarely get immoblized - either I'm untouched or I'm blown up 3 times over. I run him as a 'bodyguard' with the LR as a previous poster stated, then I let him run around and rip stuff apart once he gets close. For 105 pts (I take a heavy flamer) he can destroy quite a few things and if he gets shot at, that's fire not on my LR or DP.

in my Thousand Sons list i use it with TL lasers.
i deploy all unit in the rhinos except for 10 marines with tzeentch icon closest to dreddy.
i have lack of AT weapons..
in the worse case i suffer 2 shoots of laser on my marines an 4 shoots of bolter but i save all my vehicles

All DCCW all the time do not even give them a chance to kill your stuff.

In my last game my DCCW dread turned and shot my daemon prince of Nurgle in the ass with a bolter, successfully wounding him. Had to laff.

Plasma cannons if you want to be risky but kill more. TL-AC if you want to be safe. One time, my PC dred went krazy and killed my 3 marines on my objective in the last turn . I lost the game because I killed my own guys!

I'd give it either plasma cannon or ccw's.
When I play such a guy I tend to roll 1 so that he targets my troops. Therefore, I'd prefer ccw's.