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BrianDavion wrote:

 Eldarain wrote:
I still think they could get the fifth sword. Tie it into the Emperor's Children arc. They summon Ynnead but it fails to slay Slaanesh.

Now Eldar are one faction Ynarri and have a Primarch scale monstrous character.

or they could simply leave Ynnari plan as "in progress" it's a plan that could take centuries to acheive

Always possible though they did stress they are resolving story arcs during this series.

 Eldarain wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 Eldarain wrote:
I still think they could get the fifth sword. Tie it into the Emperor's Children arc. They summon Ynnead but it fails to slay Slaanesh.

Now Eldar are one faction Ynarri and have a Primarch scale monstrous character.

or they could simply leave Ynnari plan as "in progress" it's a plan that could take centuries to acheive

Always possible though they did stress they are resolving story arcs during this series.

Sure and they'll set up new ones at the same time.

I saw the box set on a 3rd party seller website for £112 which is a pretty decent price, that makes selling the other half of you don't want it more viable.

 Eldarain wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 Eldarain wrote:
I still think they could get the fifth sword. Tie it into the Emperor's Children arc. They summon Ynnead but it fails to slay Slaanesh.

Now Eldar are one faction Ynarri and have a Primarch scale monstrous character.

or they could simply leave Ynnari plan as "in progress" it's a plan that could take centuries to acheive

Always possible though they did stress they are resolving story arcs during this series.

There aren't a lot of ynnari resolutiona that end well....

Yeah good luck with the fifth sword, it is not AoS,
Slaanesh is still in the Palace, and probably not alone...
As if the Chaos God himself needed servants to smash some
elves when he/she founds them robbing the thing...

Hellebore wrote:

 Eldarain wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 Eldarain wrote:
I still think they could get the fifth sword. Tie it into the Emperor's Children arc. They summon Ynnead but it fails to slay Slaanesh.

Now Eldar are one faction Ynarri and have a Primarch scale monstrous character.

or they could simply leave Ynnari plan as "in progress" it's a plan that could take centuries to acheive

Always possible though they did stress they are resolving story arcs during this series.

There aren't a lot of ynnari resolutiona that end well....

Ynnari are pretty new, I imagine what we're going to see resolved is danling plot hooks that GW's had hanging for 20+ years.

 Overread wrote:

 Argive wrote:


Gw realy did a number on the eldar fans. Mierce minatures are looking real good about now.

Well going by UK prices:
Falcon - £32.50
Vyper £20
Venom £20
Scourges £17.50
Hellions £17.50

Total £107.50
140-107.5 = 32.50

Just checked Ebay and the prices are cheeper than the official prices by far. The prices come in at around £74 .

BlackKnight wrote:

 Overread wrote:

 Argive wrote:


Gw realy did a number on the eldar fans. Mierce minatures are looking real good about now.

Well going by UK prices:
Falcon - £32.50
Vyper £20
Venom £20
Scourges £17.50
Hellions £17.50

Total £107.50
140-107.5 = 32.50

Just checked Ebay and the prices are cheaper than the official prices by far. The prices come in at around £74 .

Aye, certainly any retail outlet selling things less than RRP is going to be cheaper. I went for the GW prices because they are basically the "most expensive" and also a fixed price whilst 3rd parties can vary quite a bit depending on the store itself. Plus there's quite a f few people who just buy those kits at launch and sell off the excess without needing to profit and they can get even lower in price (because they mostly want to just fast sell rather than profit sell).

Honestly the main issue is the same one that we always get with the duel kits, which is that anyone who has already got an army doesn't "really" need the already released models. The other issue is how long the lag time is between box and individual model sale and that's very variable. GW was super fast with Warcry stuff going on individual sale, but at the same time the Carrion Empire box released way back at the start of the year still hasn't got the two leader models released on their own. And that's just two very basic single sprue blisters for sale.

BlackKnight wrote:
Just checked Ebay and the prices are cheeper than the official prices by far. The prices come in at around £74 .

With shipping?

I'm starting to think that this series of books is the equivalent for 40k to the "End Times" for Fantasy...

From before the "Gathering Storm" thing the background and lore material is truly atrocious anyway, so maybe a total reshuffle a la "Age of Sigmar" is possible.



What do you think?

 Warpspy wrote:
....From before the "Gathering Storm" thing the background and lore material is truly atrocious anyway....

Wait, are you stating that all 40k lore prior to the gathering storm was bad?

 Warpspy wrote:
I'm starting to think that this series of books is the equivalent for 40k to the "End Times" for Fantasy...

From before the "Gathering Storm" thing the background and lore material is truly atrocious anyway, so maybe a total reshuffle a la "Age of Sigmar" is possible.



What do you think?

Thats kinda a baiting post - we already had a AOS reshuffle of lore and rules....I don't think this is it. Its more a few bits and pieces for the Eldar then yet another wave of Marine stuff - -same old same old

Some old lore is awesome - some less so - same as the new stuff. Gathering storm was ok - Vigilus was less good - lore was ok I guess but the rules and models were guess what - just more Marines. And then nothing much happened at the end of it.

 Warpspy wrote:
I'm starting to think that this series of books is the equivalent for 40k to the "End Times" for Fantasy...

From before the "Gathering Storm" thing the background and lore material is truly atrocious anyway, so maybe a total reshuffle a la "Age of Sigmar" is possible.



What do you think?

That you are exaggerating, haven't understood that 40k has always been set at the edge of extinction storywise and you haven't followed the different situations of both systems closely? A 'total reshuffle' of 40k was thought about but axed 3 years ago (stated in interviews). It does not happen

Slaanesh_shield wrote:
Yeah good luck with the fifth sword, it is not AoS,
Slaanesh is still in the Palace, and probably not alone...
As if the Chaos God himself needed servants to smash some
elves when he/she founds them robbing the thing...

Some eldar got in to the garden of Nurgle to free Isha -it didnt end well.
But it bring up another line of thought. Isha was first captured by Slaanesh, but the great
and loving heart of Nurgle got him to free her from Slaanesh and claim her as his queen.
So perhaps the Aeldari can get some other chaos god to get the last sword. Sounds easy enough

 Fayric wrote:

Slaanesh_shield wrote:
Yeah good luck with the fifth sword, it is not AoS,
Slaanesh is still in the Palace, and probably not alone...
As if the Chaos God himself needed servants to smash some
elves when he/she founds them robbing the thing...

Some eldar got in to the garden of Nurgle to free Isha -it didnt end well.
But it bring up another line of thought. Isha was first captured by Slaanesh, but the great
and loving heart of Nurgle got him to free her from Slaanesh and claim her as his queen.
So perhaps the Aeldari can get some other chaos god to get the last sword. Sounds easy enough

Of course some part of Slaanesh would enjoy being subjegated by a resurgent Eldar God/Goddess......likely some dodgy ficition about it somewhere.

YeOldSaltPotato wrote:

BlackKnight wrote:
Just checked Ebay and the prices are cheeper than the official prices by far. The prices come in at around £74 .

With shipping?

Yes a lot were free shipping. It is changing quite rapidly I checked back about two hours later and some had gotten cheaper while others had gone up.

The new models seem to be £25 for the Characters and £30 for the units.

 Fayric wrote:

Slaanesh_shield wrote:
Yeah good luck with the fifth sword, it is not AoS,
Slaanesh is still in the Palace, and probably not alone...
As if the Chaos God himself needed servants to smash some
elves when he/she founds them robbing the thing...

Some eldar got in to the garden of Nurgle to free Isha -it didnt end well.
But it bring up another line of thought. Isha was first captured by Slaanesh, but the great
and loving heart of Nurgle got him to free her from Slaanesh and claim her as his queen.
So perhaps the Aeldari can get some other chaos god to get the last sword. Sounds easy enough

Or just have Draigo walk in there, beat up Slaanesh and take it. Then the rest of the story is about the Eldar trying to get the sword from Draigo.

Wait, that's even harder. Nevermind.

Definitely agree on the Corsairs and Exodites. Pirates & Dinosaurs in 40K would be super cool!

BlackKnight wrote:

YeOldSaltPotato wrote:

BlackKnight wrote:
Just checked Ebay and the prices are cheeper than the official prices by far. The prices come in at around £74 .

With shipping?

Yes a lot were free shipping. It is changing quite rapidly I checked back about two hours later and some had gotten cheaper while others had gone up.

The new models seem to be £25 for the Characters and £30 for the units.

Honestly not bad, I was speaking to my GW store guy and he was explaining how GW work on a 4 year profit plan and how vyper was basically a free addition (don't really believe him because you can compare to shadowspear...).

He also thought the banshees would be a 5 man for £30. So I'm happy to pay the price early.

Slaanesh_shield wrote:
Yeah good luck with the fifth sword, it is not AoS,
Slaanesh is still in the Palace, and probably not alone...
As if the Chaos God himself needed servants to smash some
elves when he/she founds them robbing the thing...

One of the Ynnari books has them breaking into the Gardens of Nurgle to steal something and they come out of that just fine. Slaanesh's palace is still a place, and that makes it possible even if unlikely.

 Dulahan wrote:
One of the Ynnari books has them breaking into the Gardens of Nurgle to steal something and they come out of that just fine. Slaanesh's palace is still a place, and that makes it possible even if unlikely.

The Aeldari, lead by Yvraine and Visarch, were after the Hand of Darkness. And even, the Garden of Nurgle was just a transit point as they made their way to the the Whispering Tower of Mortarian on the Plague Planet.

 Fayric wrote:

Slaanesh_shield wrote:
Yeah good luck with the fifth sword, it is not AoS,
Slaanesh is still in the Palace, and probably not alone...
As if the Chaos God himself needed servants to smash some
elves when he/she founds them robbing the thing...

Some eldar got in to the garden of Nurgle to free Isha -it didnt end well.
But it bring up another line of thought. Isha was first captured by Slaanesh, but the great
and loving heart of Nurgle got him to free her from Slaanesh and claim her as his queen.
So perhaps the Aeldari can get some other chaos god to get the last sword. Sounds easy enough

When we say that Nurgle "got" Slaanesh to free Isha it was less a trade and more a mugging.

Coordinate with Khorne to attack the palace. Khorne would probably be all for that.

Or just manipulate Khorne to, and hope one of his champions gets the sword and then it's just a short waiting game to ambush said champion when they do something.

 Dulahan wrote:
Coordinate with Khorne to attack the palace. Khorne would probably be all for that.

Or just manipulate Khorne to, and hope one of his champions gets the sword and then it's just a short waiting game to ambush said champion when they do something.

Not a bad idea but how do you "Coordinate with Khorne" ??

Not sure he is in the astrotelapathic phone book

 Mr Morden wrote:

 Dulahan wrote:
Coordinate with Khorne to attack the palace. Khorne would probably be all for that.

Or just manipulate Khorne to, and hope one of his champions gets the sword and then it's just a short waiting game to ambush said champion when they do something.

Not a bad idea but how do you "Coordinate with Khorne" ??

Not sure he is in the astrotelapathic phone book

Eldar Psychic Shenanigans! Murder a random Tau warlord here. Shave off one eyebrow from Chapter Master Bob of the Imperial Bob Legion there. Put a feather under a governor's pillow somewhere else. Say nana nana boo boo to the Tyranids on the other side of the Galaxy and run. PROFIT! The plan can't fail, obviously!

Bah the Eldar wouldn't even get past the pride level of Slaanesh's realm.

 Mr Morden wrote:

 Dulahan wrote:
Coordinate with Khorne to attack the palace. Khorne would probably be all for that.

Or just manipulate Khorne to, and hope one of his champions gets the sword and then it's just a short waiting game to ambush said champion when they do something.

Not a bad idea but how do you "Coordinate with Khorne" ??

Not sure he is in the astrotelapathic phone book

You just follow behind when something like THIS happens:

Syll and Esske ultimately fought as one to protect Slaanesh’s throne room against a devastating assault from a dread host of Khornate Daemons that had fought its way further into the Dark Prince’s realm than ever before. For their part in defeating the invading horde and saving Slaanesh from the ignominy of intervening directly to slaughter the intruders...

The Chaos Gods are always willing to see each others plans ruined and come to naught

If the plot summary is true, I m not really impressed with the level of radical game changing fluff it was set out to be.
Its basicly bussiness as usual, and even the ynnari plot coming to a grinding halt.

However, the Blood Angels/Tyranid box makes more sense if the story line is not more notable than in phoenix rising.

Getting more and more dissapointed in this campaign.

Wasn't there a rumour post saying that Psychic Awakening is about fleshing out the story gaps from the last 100 years? Things like Tyranids fighting on Baal would be covered in more detail, rather than introducing new stories.

Not unless its a "historic" campaign. The Nids were defeated on Baal towards the end of the Indomitus crusade. 40K's current "present" is about a century after the crusade's end.