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The boxed set is really good. It's an excellent spread of terrain, and the Traitor Guard look great.

GW missed an opportunity to create an Intercessor accessory sprue that added HTH weapons for the Sergeants and Pyreblasters and other bits and bobs, instead choosing to add more tacti-cool options to a kit everyone has enough of, but beyond that the set looks great.

I just finished my Fronteris Terrain, so I don't need more, but I'm going to find a way to get some squads of Traitor Guard.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
No one is going to get that reference...


I got it, guess I'm officially an old fart.
   
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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
The boxed set is really good. It's an excellent spread of terrain, and the Traitor Guard look great.

GW missed an opportunity to create an Intercessor accessory sprue that added HTH weapons for the Sergeants and Pyreblasters and other bits and bobs, instead choosing to add more tacti-cool options to a kit everyone has enough of, but beyond that the set looks great.

I just finished my Fronteris Terrain, so I don't need more, but I'm going to find a way to get some squads of Traitor Guard.



Don't worry, I'm sure this won't be the only Kill Team upgrade that Space Marines get. I'm simply surprised it took this long for them to feature.
   
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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
No one is going to get that reference...
You're right, I get that reference.
   
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Though what am I thinking of, didn’t we see a full list of something. Contents page etc..

Oh that’s Slaves To Darkness wasn’t it?
That’s what I was thinking of maybe..

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Voss wrote:
Also, for other posts, isn’t it Moroch not Moloch?

Meh. As always, GW letter-shifting a name doesn't matter.
Most people will continue to use the comprehensible and familiar one.


This is one of the rare cases where it does matter. Moloch already exists, although it got eaten by Tyranids.

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160 euros the box.

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Ah, pre order next week. No wonder I couldn't find it on the GW site.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/05/22/sunday-preview-phobos-marines-battle-traitor-guard-in-kill-team-moroch/

Sigh, looks like it will be the same $200 I paid for just the terrain, only with models and suchwot. I'm so mad I could just buy another box. that will show them!

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Hmm okay I'll buy this box.
   
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 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Ah, pre order next week. No wonder I couldn't find it on the GW site.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/05/22/sunday-preview-phobos-marines-battle-traitor-guard-in-kill-team-moroch/

Sigh, looks like it will be the same $200 I paid for just the terrain, only with models and suchwot. I'm so mad I could just buy another box. that will show them!


It's not exactly the same amount of terrain - it's missing 1 x Ryza building and 1 x set of fences. But it's pretty close.

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StraightSilver wrote:
 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Ah, pre order next week. No wonder I couldn't find it on the GW site.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/05/22/sunday-preview-phobos-marines-battle-traitor-guard-in-kill-team-moroch/

Sigh, looks like it will be the same $200 I paid for just the terrain, only with models and suchwot. I'm so mad I could just buy another box. that will show them!


It's not exactly the same amount of terrain - it's missing 1 x Ryza building and 1 x set of fences. But it's pretty close.


Ah I feel a bit better then. I might just buy another box though, just to show them they can't rip me off like that!


 
   
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Terrain seems to go for pretty cheap immediately after the boxes go live and people flood Ebay to get rid of it. Might be worth a look in.

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US prices

basically the same price as the solo Fronteris box except you swap out a building and 4-wall fence and one board for marines, traitors, and book.
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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
The boxed set is really good. It's an excellent spread of terrain, and the Traitor Guard look great.

GW missed an opportunity to create an Intercessor accessory sprue that added HTH weapons for the Sergeants and Pyreblasters and other bits and bobs, instead choosing to add more tacti-cool options to a kit everyone has enough of, but beyond that the set looks great.

I just finished my Fronteris Terrain, so I don't need more, but I'm going to find a way to get some squads of Traitor Guard.



Apparently this gives them actual models for some of the upgrades in the vanguard spearhead army.
   
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Oh I know what it does, but the choice between expanding the Intercessor kit and giving it the missing Sergeant weapons vs some more tacti-cool crap for Infiltrators/Incursors, I know what I'd pick.

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 judgedoug wrote:
US prices

basically the same price as the solo Fronteris box except you swap out a building and 4-wall fence and one board for marines, traitors, and book.


Worthwhile trade in my book, especially given how badly priced the Chaos Commissar and Ogryn were in the BSF expansion box. Incursors or whatever are already $60 for 10, let alone what the upgrade sprue will add on to that eventually, and the bunker & walls are $80 solo. With the KT box starting at $10 less than the terrain box, everything chaos is essentially a 'bonus'

Which is just another way of saying that GW's pricing structure is just _weird_.


Geifer wrote:This is one of the rare cases where it does matter. Moloch already exists, although it got eaten by Tyranids.

That sounds like the opposite of mattering to me. Another nameless dead world in a galaxy full of them. Woo.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Oh I know what it does, but the choice between expanding the Intercessor kit and giving it the missing Sergeant weapons vs some more tacti-cool crap for Infiltrators/Incursors, I know what I'd pick.


Honestly I think they're probably scared to give intercessors more choices at this point. The second they get special/heavy weapons, that's gonna be it for tacticals. And they know the fans know it.
   
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They don't need special/heavy weapons. Intercessors can pretty much stay as they are. Pyreblasters (or whatever the BT Primaris Flamers) are called would be a nice addition (1 per 5) along with melee weapons for the Sergeant. Then the rest of the sprue is extra things (a Bolt Sniper Rifle, comms gear, a demo specialist, etc.) essentially the 'elite' stuff for KT, and that allows that sprue + Intercessor kit to = Veteran Intercessors.

And then everything would be updated in 9th Ed Marines V2.0, which we know is coming.

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 cole1114 wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Oh I know what it does, but the choice between expanding the Intercessor kit and giving it the missing Sergeant weapons vs some more tacti-cool crap for Infiltrators/Incursors, I know what I'd pick.


Honestly I think they're probably scared to give intercessors more choices at this point. The second they get special/heavy weapons, that's gonna be it for tacticals. And they know the fans know it.


That's the solution to the bloated codex though. Give intercessors (& incursors & infiltrators) gear and merge the datasheets. Players can pick old style or new style armor and call it a day, no stress about which is better and what's going to be outdated when. No more 40+ bolters, no more super-extra-minor variant (+1 to strength or damage or AP) to various other guns. That has a place on Necromunda scale games, but not 40k scale games.

They're remaking mk6 marines and talking openly about the interchangeability between systems for the various vehicles (Deimos rhino and Sicaran). They missed the boat on going primaris-only, it'd be really dumb to do it now, rather than really shoot HH sales into the stratosphere.

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Voss wrote:
 cole1114 wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Oh I know what it does, but the choice between expanding the Intercessor kit and giving it the missing Sergeant weapons vs some more tacti-cool crap for Infiltrators/Incursors, I know what I'd pick.


Honestly I think they're probably scared to give intercessors more choices at this point. The second they get special/heavy weapons, that's gonna be it for tacticals. And they know the fans know it.


That's the solution to the bloated codex though. Give intercessors (& incursors & infiltrators) gear and merge the datasheets. Players can pick old style or new style armor and call it a day, no stress about which is better and what's going to be outdated when. No more 40+ bolters, no more super-extra-minor variant (+1 to strength or damage or AP) to various other guns. That has a place on Necromunda scale games, but not 40k scale games.

They're remaking mk6 marines and talking openly about the interchangeability between systems for the various vehicles (Deimos rhino and Sicaran). They missed the boat on going primaris-only, it'd be really dumb to do it now, rather than really shoot HH sales into the stratosphere.


That's never going to happen now I think. Firstborn Marines have been established in the lore as a scant resource, while Primaris is more like how Firstborn were before the Heresy - There's practically an unlimited amount of them, even their force organization is more like how the Legions were than how Firstborn are in M41. I think GW will want to keep this distinction alive.

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Any sign of rules and options for the Blooded Traitors (not to be confused with Blood Pact Traitors of course)?

I see a plasma gun which no cult option could ever take.

 
   
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 judgedoug wrote:
US prices

basically the same price as the solo Fronteris box except you swap out a building and 4-wall fence and one board for marines, traitors, and book.


So KT is gonna be what, £150ish sans discount?

That’s….pretty tempting, given I want the scenery as well.

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
 judgedoug wrote:
US prices

basically the same price as the solo Fronteris box except you swap out a building and 4-wall fence and one board for marines, traitors, and book.


So KT is gonna be what, £150ish sans discount?

That’s….pretty tempting, given I want the scenery as well.


£125 I think I saw elsewhere
   
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I think this is the first one I skip.

I want the Traitors, and I usually grab any GW terrain by default, but I feel like Warzone Nachmund was priced completely insane to make this only marginally less insane price look like a deal and I'm not having it.

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Don’t care about the terrain; anyone know when the last book (corsairs bs CSM) is going to be available separately?

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 Mr_Rose wrote:
Don’t care about the terrain; anyone know when the last book (corsairs bs CSM) is going to be available separately?


Whenever the box after this one is released generally, so about 3 months iirc.
   
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Not seen it mentioned yet but this box is the last box on the roadmap we got a year ago right? I know it sort of faded out so implied more to come but it's not necessarily going to be another Killzone box with two teams I guess.
   
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It’s strange that this is the first time we’ve seen the traitor guard medic (corpseman) shown off and it’s tucked away in an article about the ogryn

He didn’t even appear in the traitor guard lineup
   
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 GaroRobe wrote:
It’s strange that this is the first time we’ve seen the traitor guard medic (corpseman) shown off and it’s tucked away in an article about the ogryn

He didn’t even appear in the traitor guard lineup


They also mention a Traitor Commsman so fingers crossed we get a full variety like Veteran Guard.

Maybe the images they showed off were the generic troop version that they also used when taking pictures for the CSM dex rather than the KT specialists?

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