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Ok so yesterday start the Ap-Ork-aypse campaign at the GW store. I brought 3k worth of nids and ran a Screamer-killer brood. Well to make a long story short i got my @$$ handed to me by some necrons. He brought a Ressurection War Cell, 3 monoliths, and 2 pylons. So cheese aside for the monoliths I was getting romped by the pylons. Are their any tyranid apoc stuff that has destroyer hits or uses any of the apoc templates for weaponry other than the screamer-killer brood.

Now onto the real topic. Any one have apoc rules for biotitans bigger than the heirophant, like the hydraphant or dominatrix. I have the Lords of Battle V2 off of BOLS, but was looking for something that is on power with big big titans. Also any pics of scratchbuilts or even the epic models would be cool also.

As far as I am aware there aren't any datasheets for the stuff bigger than the Heirophant. And there aren't any models for it either so you'd have to scratch build. Although Heirophants are garbage if your only using one. 2-3 minimum if your taking any at all. But for the points, Trygons are much more effective.

crusher broods make quick work of superheavys

What about makeing a custom data sheet for a biotitan based off of a warhound titan, pretty much a hierodule with more powerful weaponry? Of course i would use the hierodule body and custom make new guns for it. I just thing nid players get boned when we dont have any D strength weapons or even apoc barrage or ordance templates. I may also just need to play more and refine my tactics.

We can field more big stuff for cheaper than other armies can and that is the strength. The only real tactic worth a damn for Nids is to swamp the enemy with more bodies than he can kill. And if you want Titan killers go for Heirodans.

Fallenbourne wrote:
Now onto the real topic. Any one have apoc rules for biotitans bigger than the heirophant, like the hydraphant or dominatrix. I have the Lords of Battle V2 off of BOLS, but was looking for something that is on power with big big titans. Also any pics of scratchbuilts or even the epic models would be cool also.

Man, the Hierophant is RIDONCULUS and can easily match-up with an equal points value of any other Titan (and even those beyond). You can get two for a Warlord or three for an Emperor class titan, for example.

Because of the way D weapons work on Gargantuan Creatures (they only cause 1 wound) the 10 T9 2+ save regenerating wounds the Hierophant has makes it incredibly well-matched against all other Titans, especially as its 16 S10 shots a turn can easily down a big Titans shields in one turn.

You don't need anything bigger than a Hierophant. Just take more of them.

use your foot, make sure your shoe and sock if off then you can put it on the table on its heel and make growling noises while moving it about. perfect bio titan

Or find some kids toys etc, base and paint them (something alien like ofcourse) and make stats similiar to the current titans.

Wasn't there a Titan that got possesed and taken over by Tyranids in that graphic novel series, Titan? It's a good way to get an Imperial titan into a Tyranid force, with some modifications.

Duce-- Thats Hilarious I'll have to try that at the next game

Yakface-- Yeah i guess that is the Nids strength is in their numbers. Maybe ill order 2 heirodules and run them.

Garrett-- I dunno about the possessed titan, but im gonna look that up

Also I see the Screamer Killers and the Behemoth Crusher broods, but has any one thought about makeing a sniper/gun fex brood. I run a fex with a VC and BS. Now i was thinking about doing a combined shot ability something around these lines.

Mega Venom Cannnon- Rng 48" Str 10 Ap 3 assault 2x (where x is equal to the number of fexs firing)
Mega Barbed Strangler- (Rapid) Rng 36" Str 8 Ap 4 Apoc barrage x (where x is equal to number of fexs firing)
(Full) Rng 36" Str 9 Ap 4 Ordance 10"

Now of course minimum of 3 fexs in the brood and must stay with in 3 inches of each other to use the combined shooty. I havent made any other gun cause i dont have them. But its shouldnt be to hard to think of other ones.

yakface wrote:
Man, the Hierophant is RIDONCULUS and can easily match-up with an equal points value of any other Titan (and even those beyond). You can get two for a Warlord or three for an Emperor class titan, for example.

Yea but other multiple wound gargantuan creatures are its bane, my buddy uses Angratth and he makes short work of a hierophant which makes me very considering there comparative points cost.

I cant remember all the rules for either model, but I think a Harridan would be a decent solution to Angrath, if simply to keep your points out of his reach while still applying force to his angry ass.

edit: just looked up the harridan in the anphelion project. with only one shot on it's ranged attack, you'll take a while to knock off Angrath's 10 wounds.
Howevver, those shots ARE at S10. Does Angrath have a 3+ or a 2+?

Maybe throw a gak-ton of rending at the thing?
Or maybe you need to tarpit the guy; take his points in hormogaunts and see if he can run from all THAT biomass. play area denial so he has no place to land if he takes off.

Yeah, I DO realize that that is hideously expensive and time consuming to build and paint, but HEY someone was talking about just springing for 2 heirodules. that cant be cheap.

An'graath has a 2+/4++.
The hormies can't wound him, he can Stomp (1 attack @ S10 on each model engaged + combat resolution = tons of dead hormies).
If the Daemons have Fateweaver as well, his saves are re-rollable.
The way to down him with 'nids is to throw a bunch of fexes at him. Cheap 2x Scytal should bring him down relatively quickly.

In our Aporkalypse game the only Tyranid player just brought a bunch of fexes and some orks. He got wiped out in the first two turns, after he laid waste to one of our Baneblades with two of his fexes.

I think one Hierophant (although heavy on points) will be sure to kill a juicy amount on enemies. The Bio cannon is Assault 8, and strength 10. Plus it moves fast. Plus it has alot of wounds. Which is why it take alot of shots. But all I'm saying is that a titan (warhound variant at least) is no match for it.

Iron_Chaos_Brute wrote:An'graath has a 2+/4++.
The hormies can't wound him, he can Stomp (1 attack @ S10 on each model engaged + combat resolution = tons of dead hormies).
If the Daemons have Fateweaver as well, his saves are re-rollable.
The way to down him with 'nids is to throw a bunch of fexes at him. Cheap 2x Scytal should bring him down relatively quickly.

Yeah, good luck getting fexes into B2B with a flying critter like that. Redeploy? Dude, this ain't working. The Hormies arent suppossed to hurt him, they are suppossed to lock him in close combat. You are right, stomp does a great job of negating the horde potential. Maybe flyrants could do the job, except isnt he T10?