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H.B.M.C. wrote:For those of you looking for a more nuanced and refined (and far less Ward-y) take on the Grey Knights and the Ordo Malleus in general, then this is always an option.

Kanluwen wrote:Which is why I said they missed out on instead of just doing a "Grey Knight" codex, they could have done it as an Inquisition and the associated Chambers Militant book.

Ah. Ok. I get it now.

In that case, yes, it would have been better to get an all-inclusive Inquisition Codex. Even the 'Wave' releases are pretty obvious then - Wave 1, GKs (Special Chars, Termies, Power Armour, Dreadknight. Wave 2, Sisters (Special Chars, Sisters Box, Serephim Box, plastic Exorcist). Wave 3, Deathwatch (Special Chars, DW Termies, DW Power Armour, [something else]).

I would leave the Sisters out really. Have the Hereticus being focused more on using Stormtroopers and Inquisitors.

Save the Sisters for their own book with a heavy Ecclesiarchy presence.

H.B.M.C. wrote:For those of you looking for a more nuanced and refined (and far less Ward-y) take on the Grey Knights and the Ordo Malleus in general, then this is always an option.

Kanluwen wrote:Which is why I said they missed out on instead of just doing a "Grey Knight" codex, they could have done it as an Inquisition and the associated Chambers Militant book.

Ah. Ok. I get it now.

In that case, yes, it would have been better to get an all-inclusive Inquisition Codex. Even the 'Wave' releases are pretty obvious then - Wave 1, GKs (Special Chars, Termies, Power Armour, Dreadknight. Wave 2, Sisters (Special Chars, Sisters Box, Serephim Box, plastic Exorcist). Wave 3, Deathwatch (Special Chars, DW Termies, DW Power Armour, [something else]).

Holy crap.
Did you two just agree on something?

Isn't that one of the signs of the Apocalypse? Let's just pray it's a regular one and not Zombie kind.

Eric

It has been occuring more and more often recently. I think H.B.M.C broke Kan.

Why make a really cool character (abilities wise) and then make it look really turd-esque?

GW must have, back many years ago, made 500,000 little space monkeys and realised that they were sh*t so put them away in storage. Now, with the recession hitting, they have brought them back and made them really good, so as to tempt players into buying them in the hope of getting shut of them and finally turning a profit on what must be one of their daftest models ever.

I hate the Jokaero and will not get any, no matter how good they are. If someone bought me it as a present, I would put it in the bin. Grey Knights look so cool but these monkeys would wreck the look if fielded with them.

Kanluwen wrote:I would leave the Sisters out really. Have the Hereticus being focused more on using Stormtroopers and Inquisitors.

Save the Sisters for their own book with a heavy Ecclesiarchy presence.

Translation: Just do it like that or we'll get trouble from the bra-burners.

BrookM wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:I would leave the Sisters out really. Have the Hereticus being focused more on using Stormtroopers and Inquisitors.

Save the Sisters for their own book with a heavy Ecclesiarchy presence.

Translation: Just do it like that or we'll get trouble from the bra-burners.

Pretty much

Kanluwen wrote:

BrookM wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:I would leave the Sisters out really. Have the Hereticus being focused more on using Stormtroopers and Inquisitors.

Save the Sisters for their own book with a heavy Ecclesiarchy presence.

Translation: Just do it like that or we'll get trouble from the bra-burners.

Pretty much

judging from my experience with the 40k demographic, i think the majority of SOB players need a bro instead of a bra (melissia excluded i assume). (seinfeld joke)


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MagickalMemories wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:For those of you looking for a more nuanced and refined (and far less Ward-y) take on the Grey Knights and the Ordo Malleus in general, then this is always an option.

Kanluwen wrote:Which is why I said they missed out on instead of just doing a "Grey Knight" codex, they could have done it as an Inquisition and the associated Chambers Militant book.

Ah. Ok. I get it now.

In that case, yes, it would have been better to get an all-inclusive Inquisition Codex. Even the 'Wave' releases are pretty obvious then - Wave 1, GKs (Special Chars, Termies, Power Armour, Dreadknight. Wave 2, Sisters (Special Chars, Sisters Box, Serephim Box, plastic Exorcist). Wave 3, Deathwatch (Special Chars, DW Termies, DW Power Armour, [something else]).

Holy crap.
Did you two just agree on something?

Isn't that one of the signs of the Apocalypse? Let's just pray it's a regular one and not Zombie kind.

Eric

it's actually been happening a fair amount for about a month; even when they don't agree, they take the other's typical role. HMBC has been keeping GW's dirty little rumor secrets without spoiling them while Kan has been uncharacteristically upset with GW's decisions. i'm waiting on calling the ragnarok for when gwar comes back to YMDC and starts answering every question by quoting how the fluff tells you to play it.

Probably already been said (I don't want to wade through 9 pages to find out) but if that damn dirty ape is responsible for destroying any of my vehicles then I'm totally screaming "YOU MANIACS! YOU BLEW IT UP! DAMN YOU! DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!"

Maybe Kan and H.B. have switched bodies?

So much for that buddy cop movie though.


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Andilus Greatsword wrote:Probably already been said (I don't want to wade through 9 pages to find out) but if that damn dirty ape is responsible for destroying any of my vehicles then I'm totally screaming "YOU MANIACS! YOU BLEW IT UP! DAMN YOU! DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!"

Don't forget to drop to your knees and throw your arms up dramatically.

Its like Fight club; HBMC is The Kan!

In other news, I for one welcome our new Lascannon totting monkey overlords.

Damnit HB, I'm gettin' too old for this! I'm retiring in the next five minutes!

Kanluwen wrote:Damnit HB, I'm gettin' too old for this! I'm retiring in the next five minutes!

You're a loose cannon! You're off the case! Gimme your badge!

augustus5 wrote:The GK model line just keeps getting worse. First the horrible toy-like dreadknight and now orange space apes? What a way to ruin what was once one of the coolest factions in the 40k universe.

Agreed. At least they did quite well with the PAGK and GKT.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:Damnit HB, I'm gettin' too old for this! I'm retiring in the next five minutes!

You're a loose cannon! You're off the case! Gimme your badge!

Screw diplomatic immunity!
*pow pow pow*

Anyways. Yeah.

*shakes fist at Jokaero*

To be honest I don't mind the Jokearo. I like having odd models for random retinues, and I'll get more use out of it in Dark Heresy than I will in 40K (rules for a Jokaero couldn't be that hard to come up with).

What I don't like about it is the implementation. Whole units of these things rockin' 'round, blowing stuff up with digi-Lascannons? That's about as silly as being able to field a whole unit of Daemonhosts and have a Grey Knight IC join them.


Oh wait...



WAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRD!!!!!!!!

I'm still thinking that this has to be Pete Haines and Alessio Cavatore somehow manipulating Ward.

Someone should warn the authorities, they may have Ward's family!

How long until his contract is fulfilled?

Until Haines and Cavatore finish the job they started.

RUINING FLUFF GAMING!

You're a loose cannon!

Definition of a loose cannon:

A priest with dysenetry

Whole units would be nuts!

Kanluwen wrote:Until Haines and Cavatore finish the job they started.

RUINING FLUFF GAMING!

Really? That’s their secret plan. I would have thought that if they went through the trouble of kidnapping Ward’s family, they’d have something more insidious in mind.

candy.man wrote:Really? That’s their secret plan. I would have thought that if they went through the trouble of kidnapping Ward’s family, they’d have something more insidious in mind.

It's Haines and Cavatore. They seem to have some kind of loathing for fluffy based armies, but love to wrap their powergaming antics under the auspices of 'fluff'.

Honestly I am kinda glad there is such Jokaero hate.

That way I will be the only one with the All Ape/Jokaero 40K Army!

FacelessMage wrote:Honestly I am kinda glad there is such Jokaero hate.

That way I will be the only one with the All Ape/Jokaero 40K Army!

For about three years until they redo the codex and drop monkey men from the game

Clock is ticking...

Three years? You have greater faith in GW's release schedule than I do then.

Well, Grey Knights is at its heart a Marine book...

H.B.M.C. wrote:Three years? You have greater faith in GW's release schedule than I do then.

i was trying to be generous...

Then at that point I will just start having tons of cybernetic apes in my D&D games.

"And so the dark lord begins to.."
"Is it another cybernetic monkey?"
"Cybernetic Ape. and Yes he is a cybernetic ape."

I'm going to run units of Jokaeros with Razorback Las/Plas transports. Then, every time I blow up an enemy vehicle I'm going to jump around and make ape sounds. Whenever I lose a Jokaero, I'll scream in that high pitch ape sound and rub the model with the back of my finger while cooing. I'll be the guy everyone wants to play.

BrookM wrote:Maybe Kan and H.B. have switched bodies?

So much for that buddy cop movie though.


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Andilus Greatsword wrote:Probably already been said (I don't want to wade through 9 pages to find out) but if that damn dirty ape is responsible for destroying any of my vehicles then I'm totally screaming "YOU MANIACS! YOU BLEW IT UP! DAMN YOU! DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!"

Don't forget to drop to your knees and throw your arms up dramatically.

Oh you can be sure of it.