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 2500kgm3 wrote:
Who needs any of those when you can watch Babylon 5?

Babylon 5, still the best Sci-fi television show so far. I think Battlestar Galactica came close until they ran out of ideas.

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
For me, Farscape all the way.

Are there any villains out there as cool as the Scarans, love them scary and smart. That is one of the main things that annoyed me about the Star Gate villains, they seemed scary (and controlled whole sectors of space) but could surprisingly be out outsmarted and outfought every day of the week. Sure you could say that Star Gate was not a serious show, but neither was Farscape, shame about the second half of the last episode :(.


Comparing Star Trek and Star Wars is a bit of a tough one though, they are just so different.

Star Wars is a fun adventure story and Star Trek is more a story of ideas with adventuring.

Which one I like best usually depends on my mood at the time.

Love a bit of Sci-fi.

I like the original Star Wars Films and the new one, also the Lego version
Trek - again the Original, DS9 and elements of the others - but when Next Gen came out it was watched religiously.

Stargate I think was awesome - especially since it had a shaky start with the first few episodes but the cast was great and it had some fabulous episodes, some serious - some comic genius. Ended with a terrible episode but the tv films that followed were much better.

Farscape was a bit odd - great and with lots of interesting stuff - the series ender was not bad - although not good for my fav character Sikozu :(

Battlestar was a joy to watch - unlike the prequel series.

Babylon 5 I loved - again not happy about how it ended but enjoyed the ride....

 =Angel= wrote:


If you pay attention, the Federation is actually quite oppressive. All the spaceships are state owned, there are no private (human) merchants plying the stars or private shuttles with people exploring the galaxy alone. There are only colonists put on remote worlds by the federation who die in interesting ways to further the plot because they are unarmed scientists.

Actually, NOT all human ships are "state owned" by the federation.
There ARE "free traders" (smugglers, pirates, etc) and there are examples of two of them in the one movie. STIII.

Both the crew of the freighter that is the klingon bird of prey's first victim (After the klingon spy Valkris gives Kruge the genesis file) and the captain of the ship McCoy tries to charter in the bar later.

Others get mentions in DS9 and occasionally in Enterprise and TNG.

I probably watch Starwars more than Startreck but in the end I'll set them both aside for Babylon 5.

Man-Kzin Wars,the Kzinti would learn why man gave war up so long ago, because we were so damn good at it.

However, of the two, I prefer Star Wars and it's homages to old time radio show and movie serials.

Coldnap wrote:For Star Trek you have to get into the ships, love those DS9 battles.

Have you seen the ship they designed for the new show? I didn't realize the Federation HAD a D-7. I always thought there wouldn't be a ship as stupid and gakky looking as the Defiant, I was wrong.

Also, I'd never picture Star Wars touching anything as "heady" as Insurrection.

Trek FTW.
both old, new and alternative timeline

I always been a fan of the first star wars trilogy and always considered star trek very boring. But i love the new star treks and totally dislike the last four star wars, especially the force awakens. Rogue one was ok though.

Star Trek. Specifically TNG. Jean Luc Picard is bae.

I'd rather live in the universe of ST I think...

Star Wars is great but if your dealt some bad luck you could be living the worst life ever.

Plus Star Trek has more solid content, tells more personal and deep stories. Star Wars is a pretty standard heroic space opera. I don't count the EU as half of it is trash and its non canon. And to top it off Disney is going to milk it to death. In ten years we're all going to be begging for them to stop with these movies.

I loved Star Wars more than anything as a kid, but now I guess it's time to let the younger folks have their way with it now.

I used to watch Star Wars as a kid but once I started watching Star Trek (reruns for me) then Star Trek TNG I didn't care about Star Wars.

Personally I prefer Red Dwarf over both Star Trek and Star Wars.

 Thargrim wrote:
In ten years we're all going to be begging for them to stop with these movies.

IOW, we'll be at the point Star Trek got to a long time ago?

 Peregrine wrote:

 Thargrim wrote:
In ten years we're all going to be begging for them to stop with these movies.

IOW, we'll be at the point Star Trek got to a long time ago?

That is DEFINITELY a matter of opinion. Trek still has plenty of stories to tell from every iteration of the franchise. How much can you squeeze in to the Imperial vs. Rebels thing before it becomes REALLY dull? At least Trek has enough of a widespread and explored universe to have multiple protagonists and antagonists, not to mention the unexplored stuff. What does Star Wars have? Red vs. Blue. Old Red vs. Old Blue. New Red vs. New Blue. Not boring at all.

 Just Tony wrote:
That is DEFINITELY a matter of opinion. Trek still has plenty of stories to tell from every iteration of the franchise. How much can you squeeze in to the Imperial vs. Rebels thing before it becomes REALLY dull? At least Trek has enough of a widespread and explored universe to have multiple protagonists and antagonists, not to mention the unexplored stuff. What does Star Wars have? Red vs. Blue. Old Red vs. Old Blue. New Red vs. New Blue. Not boring at all.

It doesn't matter if, in theory, Star Trek has more stories to tell, the product that we're actually getting is mediocre cash cow milking at best and we're way past the point of begging them to stop. Voyager was awful, Enterprise somehow managed to be worse, the TNG-era movies ranged from decent (First Contact) to unwatchably bad (everything else), and the reboot movies were mindless cash cow milking with no reason to exist. It's been a long time since the Star Trek franchise was putting out new material that deserves to exist on its own merits, so if Star Wars might get to that point in 10 years then that's still a much better position than where Star Trek is.

And this is where we drastically disagree. I place Insurrection over FIrst Contact so will disagree with you there, totally agree with Enterprise and Voyager, but not with the new movies.

I think the Star Wars franchise hit that moment with Episode 1.

Star Wars for me, but not by much.

The original trilogy were formative for me - and I can remember not knowing ESB or RotJ existed.

Rebels is fantastic, as was Clone Wars. Of the films, I'd say only Phantom Menace is truly duff. Other prequels have 'oh dear' moments, but I suspect TPM was an Albatross round their neck.

Star Trek is still damned good at times. TNG and DS9 are the stand outs for me. TNG mostly because of Sir Patrick Stewart (his performance in Chain of Command is just superb, and shows off why he's a renowned Shakespearean actor), DS9 because it was the first Trek (possibly only?) where they couldn't just run away from their problems, and it showed a different side to Starfleet.

Needs another option. I love both.

I think it comes down to a few things


Star Wars = single person dressed like a goth can change the world.
Which a lot of people who are anti social or highschool kids can really connect to.

Star Trek = for the endless wonders and life itself is a journey of unknown.
Which a lot of people looking to fit in with a group can become a part of.

So depending on your view point one will be favoured. In a mostly 40k board I can imagine wars winning out big time since space marine single marine winning entire wars alone, then with sigmarines doing the same they are all kinda the same pandering system.


Myself I did no strong opnion either way. Never a fan of the wars people floating things around with their minds and flying and stuff. I always wondered if they could move like buildings around why not just crush the whole army or the enemy while hiding behind a rock? Like if they are in space float by their space ship and suck a few windows out of place.

Then with trek I always waited for the next episode when the imagination bay would mess up and they would need to fight the program's again.

I like them both, but i prefer Star Wars a bit more.

Don't really like either but star track is a little boring

Star Trek (but real one, not Abrams SW demos or DISaster abomination) especially TNG. I hate SW.

Star Trek Next Gen and DS9 I love. First three Star Wars movies are good but are massively over hyped. Episode VII was awful! Rogue One to me beat all the star trek and Star Wars movies

 Anaerian wrote:
Star Trek Next Gen and DS9 I love. First three Star Wars movies are good but are massively over hyped. Episode VII was awful! Rogue One to me beat all the star trek and Star Wars movies

Kind of feel the same way, except about rogue one...I think that movie jumped around too much early on and failed to develop and make me feel for some of its characters. And it actually came seriously close to parody levels with the ip man guy chanting the same line over and over again. Plus blatant pandering/pro diversity and stuff. Sometimes it felt like it was trying way too hard. At least it had the balls to kill off nearly the entirety of the cast. It wasn't a horrid movie but it was no less flawed than the rest of the SW movies.

Star Trek - primarily because Star Wars fans and their religious wars are too tiring to deal with. Although Trek fans are starting to get that way too so I might just have to give up both.

I like both.

The fans of both are what I have issues with. The whole bunch of get-a-lifes and basement dwelling neckbeards

Star Wars fans are the worse group of deplorables in any millennium.

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
Star Wars has been ruined by George Lucas, and everybody in Star Trek is too much of a goody two shoes. Although Gul Dukat and Garek are some of the best characters ever seen in sci-fi.

For me, Farscape all the way.

For the poll I voted Trek, but this. So much this. Farscape just blows everything out of the water.
Although Stargate and B5 were good fun, too.

Do_I_Not_Like_That and Bran Dawri, have a Frelling exalt for those comments.

Can I get a "frell yeah!"?

 legoburner wrote:
Poll suggested by Small, Far Away

The orville.

Meh. I probably cared more as a kid, but both series have a poor ratio, with far too many misses with a few successes mixed in. Even DS9, which is the only Trek I can stand in long stretches, has episodes that simply need to be set on fire. SW has too many utter failures hiding amidst the fan screeching.

B5 was largely better (except at either end of the run), Farscape certainly had moments (and lots of 'oh get on with it already'), and Stargates SG1 and Atlantis had a fair bit of above average let down by some problem episodes and problematic stretches/assumptions.