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 BrookM wrote:
Indeed, one can hope that the Knight chassis, or their weapons will get a drastic rejig in point cost.

I'm okay with the current ion shield though, no need to also turn it into an invulnerable save when in melee, only the Lancer has that honour right now.

Personally, if it were me, I'd turn the Ion Shield into some kind of AOE melee attack.

I don't know how you fluff that up but still.

 BrookM wrote:
Indeed, one can hope that the Knight chassis, or their weapons will get a drastic rejig in point cost.

I'm okay with the current ion shield though, no need to also turn it into an invulnerable save when in melee, only the Lancer has that honour right now.

The Atrapos has an invunerable save in CC as well

It could work if the ion shield exploded under sustained attack, but it feels rather unfluffy and out of place. Plus, Knights already have a pretty ace stomp attack to deal with large amounts of chaff.

That and simply walking away.

In the fluff an ion shield is nigh on impenetrable, capable of blocking anything but the most serious of attacks, like say, a volcano cannon or sustained magma lascannon blasts from a Porphyrion. It's only real downside is that it has a limited arc and even then cannot cover everything entirely, the novels describing lucky shots going under the shield to clip a leg or a good block ricocheting into an unprotected part.

In my opinion the 5++ is a good compromise, representing a Noble's skill at desperately throwing the shield around to block as much incoming fire as possible under the circumstances.


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tedurur wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Indeed, one can hope that the Knight chassis, or their weapons will get a drastic rejig in point cost.

I'm okay with the current ion shield though, no need to also turn it into an invulnerable save when in melee, only the Lancer has that honour right now.

The Atrapos has an invunerable save in CC as well

Ah, cheers for that, ion flare shield, or something right?

 BrookM wrote:
It could work if the ion shield exploded under sustained attack, but it feels rather unfluffy and out of place. Plus, Knights already have a pretty ace stomp attack to deal with large amounts of chaff.

That and simply walking away.

In the fluff an ion shield is nigh on impenetrable, capable of blocking anything but the most serious of attacks, like say, a volcano cannon or sustained magma lascannon blasts from a Porphyrion. It's only real downside is that it has a limited arc and even then cannot cover everything entirely, the novels describing lucky shots going under the shield to clip a leg or a good block ricocheting into an unprotected part.

In my opinion the 5++ is a good compromise, representing a Noble's skill at desperately throwing the shield around to block as much incoming fire as possible under the circumstances.

The thing that I keep coming back to in my brain is that the ion shield, theoretically would have some kind of residual charge in the air when it stops shots right?

Would be kind of neat to have it so that if a Knight suffered a shooting attack, units charging it would take D3 Mortal Wounds or something like that. Could also be an interesting bit for requiring units charging a Knight they shot at to subtract from their Charge distance.

We should let the shield shoot out to something huge, like 60", doing D6+1 hits that ignore cover completely.

I don't foresee any issues wiht that.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
We should let the shield shoot out to something huge, like 60", doing D6+1 hits that ignore cover completely.

I don't foresee any issues wiht that.

Sounds too high tech for the imperium. Maybe give it to one of the non "lesser" races instead.

 BrookM wrote:
Indeed, one can hope that the Knight chassis, or their weapons will get a drastic rejig in point cost.

I'm okay with the current ion shield though, no need to also turn it into an invulnerable save when in melee, only the Lancer has that honour right now.

It should really work in the melee. These things are designed to go toe to toe with the biggest and most dangerous things in the setting.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
We should let the shield shoot out to something huge, like 60", doing D6+1 hits that ignore cover completely.

I don't foresee any issues wiht that.

I get it!

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
We should let the shield shoot out to something huge, like 60", doing D6+1 hits that ignore cover completely.

I don't foresee any issues wiht that.

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I didn't want to remember that haha

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
We should let the shield shoot out to something huge, like 60", doing D6+1 hits that ignore cover completely.

I don't foresee any issues wiht that.

That being said, yeah they definitely don't need their shield to be weaponized.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
We should let the shield shoot out to something huge, like 60", doing D6+1 hits that ignore cover completely.

I don't foresee any issues wiht that.

Don't be ridiculous. Knights are far too expensive for that! Especially without a way to twin-link all its weapons at the same time.

I'm very happy that a few of you got that reference.

 Crimson wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Indeed, one can hope that the Knight chassis, or their weapons will get a drastic rejig in point cost.

I'm okay with the current ion shield though, no need to also turn it into an invulnerable save when in melee, only the Lancer has that honour right now.

It should really work in the melee. These things are designed to go toe to toe with the biggest and most dangerous things in the setting.

Maybe they work like void shields that work out by creating bubble over titan which means getting inside it allows you to bypass it. It's described as two titans approaching each other and well before even getting close enough to hit other with fist shields actually connect with each other.

Sorry for the blunt question, but will the chaos imperila knights be included in the codex?

Unknown at this point, probably not.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I'm very happy that a few of you got that reference.

Old-school Epic Wave Serpents?

 Dysartes wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I'm very happy that a few of you got that reference.

Old-school Epic Wave Serpents?

More like 7th ed (or 6th ed?) Wave Serpents.

Nora wrote:
Sorry for the blunt question, but will the chaos imperila knights be included in the codex?

Defintely no based on what has been rumored and the discussion on B&C by those in the know. It is going to be an Imperial Knight release.

The mentioned IK: Renegade is considered to be a re-release of the boxed game - but could be something else. If it would be a codex though, it would be called like that, wouldn't it? There may be something like a Renegade Knights book(let) with 8th Ed 40k rules but I don't think chances are good there will be anything but the Index for a while.

I would not expect a 40k Renegade release based on the current informations at all.

The IK release could be in either May or June White Dwarf, probably showcased at the Warhammer Fest end of May with advertisement running earlier throughout May.

6th Ed, and their stupid broken shield cannons.

And indeed their Space Marine incarnation.

Right now, I just want to know what other Knights we’re getting, and see them in the flesh, as it were.

Well, Warhammer Fest is May 12th so I'm pretty sure they'll be shown off there and that you can start pre-ordering them then or the week before so you can walk home with the new knights from there. From what I understand it's going to be 2 weeks of releases because of the multiple expensive kits coming. Either way, not long now

PiñaColada wrote:
Well, Warhammer Fest is May 12th so I'm pretty sure they'll be shown off there and that you can start pre-ordering them then or the week before so you can walk home with the new knights from there. From what I understand it's going to be 2 weeks of releases because of the multiple expensive kits coming. Either way, not long now

Correct, I remembered it wrongly, mid of May it is

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
And indeed their Space Marine incarnation.

Right now, I just want to know what other Knights we’re getting, and see them in the flesh, as it were.

I'd be happy to see a 360° of the Castellan. I'm a bit torn on that one.

Just have to get through untold waves of sea elves...

Err, we have a 360 of the castellan in the reveal video.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Err, we have a 360 of the castellan in the reveal video.

Yeah, and if I want to see the same thing again I have to go back again and a again or hit pause at the right time or pause the thing and then jump to the exact point and... it's a hassle.

You kids can keep your silly videos. I'll take real pictures instead, thank you very much.

 Geifer wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Err, we have a 360 of the castellan in the reveal video.

Yeah, and if I want to see the same thing again I have to go back again and a again or hit pause at the right time or pause the thing and then jump to the exact point and... it's a hassle.

You kids can keep your silly videos. I'll take real pictures instead, thank you very much.

Hope this helps!

I love that wall of mechanicus pipes in the background.

 Hive City Dweller wrote:

 Geifer wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Err, we have a 360 of the castellan in the reveal video.

Yeah, and if I want to see the same thing again I have to go back again and a again or hit pause at the right time or pause the thing and then jump to the exact point and... it's a hassle.

You kids can keep your silly videos. I'll take real pictures instead, thank you very much.

Hope this helps!

Spoiler:

Thank you!

It's a weird design with the flat, straight shoulders. I guess it helps mount the turrets, but it stretches the shoulders outward and doesn't give it the nicely rounded carapace appearance of the original Knight or even the Armiger. The nipple gun mounts seem too long as well, or their armor too paltry.

Looks salvageable, though. Nice.

I'm kind of worried by how many people here have their nipples as high as their heads.

 Platuan4th wrote:
I'm kind of worried by how many people here have their nipples as high as their heads.

Realistically the Castellan has its nipples higher up than its head, so the term nipple gun is misleading. To be accurate, it should be nipple piercing gun.