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Danny76 wrote:

The thing I don’t get is people always say, they shouldn’t put the prices up on these ones or those ones as they already made back the mold costs.
Everything stays in line for GW roughly, so they won’t just put all the Seraphon kits down in price as they are old, but all the newer stuff go up.
It’d be a death sentence for new stuff compared..


In a round about way, that's exactly what they do. Their stated aim is to continue price increases on new releases, so by comparison the older a kit is the cheaper it looks.

As they circle round and refresh the range every 5-10 years or so, the old cheap stuff disappears forever and the new shiny jumps in price up to the new normal for that band of kit.

What people are objecting to is the fact that the SC largely feature kits that have been on sale for a long time, and because the production costs of plastic kits is heavily front loaded and mostly in the design and machining will be costing a very modest amount to manufacture. A better reflection in increasing costs would be an accelerated increase in the price of new releases, but I think frozenwastes has nailed it with his post on the reasoning for the rises.

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 Stormonu wrote:
Wow, I did a straight conversion from pound to dollar and didn’t realize there was an overhead GW was adding to their prices for the US. No wonder I’ve always felt like the prices ought to be about 20% cheaper than I’m paying - if I was in the UK I would be.


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 Ouze wrote:
 Azreal13 wrote:
 Albino Squirrel wrote:

The paint isn't going to dry out in the pot.
.


Can you come and tell my pot of ceramite white that so it can go back to being liquid rather than the half formed jelly it was on the day I opened it.


Bruh. Ceramite White is a repeat offender. I am not sure I've gotten a pot yet that hasn't been way, way too thick.


Yeah, the white is always thick like that and I find even when thinner tends to be gunkier. Meanwhile my black paint always wants to leak around the hinge. Those two colors are just consistent troublemakers for me.

 
   
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Interesting note. The Slaanesh SC is going up to 55 pounds, but the contents of the current one is 53.5 pounds.

I am seriously wondering if we are going to see changes to the contents of the boxes because it would be ridiculous to pay more for the SC than the models are worth individually.

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It's more than £53.50 in there? Exalted Chariot is basically two of the normal chariots.

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 Eldarsif wrote:
Interesting note. The Slaanesh SC is going up to 55 pounds, but the contents of the current one is 53.5 pounds.

I am seriously wondering if we are going to see changes to the contents of the boxes because it would be ridiculous to pay more for the SC than the models are worth individually.


The contents are 72 pounds. You missed that it has the double chariot that is built from two chariot kits.

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 lord_blackfang wrote:
 Eldarsif wrote:
Interesting note. The Slaanesh SC is going up to 55 pounds, but the contents of the current one is 53.5 pounds.

I am seriously wondering if we are going to see changes to the contents of the boxes because it would be ridiculous to pay more for the SC than the models are worth individually.


The contents are 72 pounds. You missed that it has the double chariot that is built from two chariot kits.


Ah, fair enough.

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So I put up a sheet where I have calculated approximately the changes and how much you save compared to before and after.

Tau box could be a bit mispriced here as I couldn't find the particular ethereal in a single box and just slapped on him the usual 15 pound price sticker most HQ get.
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So that's anywhere from as low as £10 up to £35 and that's before discounters. It's not nice, but it's still not as awful as it was before the start collecting's even existed.
   
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Poor greenskins paying to get "nice" SC box.

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 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
So that's anywhere from as low as £10 up to £35 and that's before discounters. It's not nice, but it's still not as awful as it was before the start collecting's even existed.


Also evident that some of them were such a good deal that you'd be crazy to buy the models individually instead of Start Collecting.

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I think I will get the Beastmen box then. It has good savings right now and it is going up. So fair enough, GW gave me sufficient warning to make the purchase.

I think obviously they will sell fewer SC sets now. Shame. They were getting me back into GW models in a way I hadn't been for years and spurring extra purchases to "fill out" my forces. I would say they made an extra 200 euro at minimum from me, probably a bit more because I have forgotten some of the characters I picked up. And that is on top of the SC, not including them. Purchases I would not have made without the percieved value of the SC set to get me interested.

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I think I will get the Beastmen box then. It has good savings right now and it is going up. So fair enough, GW gave me sufficient warning to make the purchase.


I ended up buying the last Khorne Bloodbound SC at my FLGS as a 35 pound savings is just crazy.

I think obviously they will sell fewer SC sets now. Shame. They were getting me back into GW models in a way I hadn't been for years and spurring extra purchases to "fill out" my forces. I would say they made an extra 200 euro at minimum from me, probably a bit more because I have forgotten some of the characters I picked up. And that is on top of the SC, not including them. Purchases I would not have made without the percieved value of the SC set to get me interested.


I agree somewhat. The deals are still good, but are now more implicitly targeted at new players. To be fair some of the kits were priced so that you never really had a reason to buy anything beyond more SC. I mean, two bloodbound SC and you were technically getting a Skullcrusher box for free.

What I would I have liked to see is more parity in the content value of the boxes. Some have really low savings(Space Wolves) and some apparently negative savings(Greenskinz).

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tneva82 wrote:
Poor greenskins paying to get "nice" SC box.


I think the Greenskinz box was £71.50 rather than the £51 Eldarsif has it at - Warboss, Orruks & Boar Chariot @ £18 each, and Boarboys @ £17.50.
   
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beast_gts wrote:
tneva82 wrote:
Poor greenskins paying to get "nice" SC box.


I think the Greenskinz box was £71.50 rather than the £51 Eldarsif has it at - Warboss, Orruks & Boar Chariot @ £18 each, and Boarboys @ £17.50.


You are right. Thought the warboss was only a part of the Boar boys.

It puts the new savings of the Greenskinz box at 16.50 pounds,


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I have updated the prices of the Greenskinz.

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I was always surprised the Fyreslayers box stayed the price it did for so long. You were always just paying for the Magmadroth and everything else was free. Hell, GW said that if you ordered the 'droth, then they would just send the start collecting instead.
   
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For those interested here it is sorted from worst to best savings.
[Thumb - worstbest.jpg]


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Stage two: raise prices of individual kits until all SC are a 30£ saving.

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 Ouze wrote:
 Azreal13 wrote:
 Albino Squirrel wrote:

The paint isn't going to dry out in the pot.
.


Can you come and tell my pot of ceramite white that so it can go back to being liquid rather than the half formed jelly it was on the day I opened it.


Bruh. Ceramite White is a repeat offender. I am not sure I've gotten a pot yet that hasn't been way, way too thick.


Sounds like a problem with the paint formula then, and not the pot.
   
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 Albino Squirrel wrote:
 Ouze wrote:
 Azreal13 wrote:
 Albino Squirrel wrote:

The paint isn't going to dry out in the pot.
.


Can you come and tell my pot of ceramite white that so it can go back to being liquid rather than the half formed jelly it was on the day I opened it.


Bruh. Ceramite White is a repeat offender. I am not sure I've gotten a pot yet that hasn't been way, way too thick.


Sounds like a problem with the paint formula then, and not the pot.


Tbf the pots are gak

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 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
I was always surprised the Fyreslayers box stayed the price it did for so long. You were always just paying for the Magmadroth and everything else was free. Hell, GW said that if you ordered the 'droth, then they would just send the start collecting instead.

My guess is they realised they'd outpriced their audience with Fyreslayers.

Vulkite Berserkers were £35 for ten compared to the new Namarti being £30.

Fyreslayers weren't shifting because the entire army barring the Magmadroth was overpriced naked Dwarfs, so figured SC might shift some boxes.
   
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 Arbitrator wrote:
 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
I was always surprised the Fyreslayers box stayed the price it did for so long. You were always just paying for the Magmadroth and everything else was free. Hell, GW said that if you ordered the 'droth, then they would just send the start collecting instead.

My guess is they realised they'd outpriced their audience with Fyreslayers.

Vulkite Berserkers were £35 for ten compared to the new Namarti being £30.

Fyreslayers weren't shifting because the entire army barring the Magmadroth was overpriced naked Dwarfs, so figured SC might shift some boxes.


The Seraphon box is the same way - either buy the Carnosaur or buy the Carnosaur and get a few free units with it. Same price.
   
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You don't think they know of that?-) Last year there was questionare. I don't think guess is that far off if I say too expensive models was #1 comment

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Wow, we missed this party!

But then again we've been extremely busy lately, to answer one important question we are not planning any price rises this year so you can be rest assured that not only will you be able to get hold of high quality paint in various dropper bottle sizes in GW matched shades, you will now save even more money buying through us!

In regards to our products being available in retail environments, there are plans to get this underway this year in the U.K only for now but we plan to be hitting international stores within 2-3 years (unless we get any requests in the interim, we've already had some interest from U.S stores)

As for international markets, this was one of the first considerations we made when we were planning the brand and our pricing is the most competitive in the market as well as fast (Parcels arriving in Australia in a much as 2 weeks...sometimes less).

We're also getting a lot of love for our metallic paints at the moment across social media with the realism being one of the high points as well as it's ease of use, we also regularly update our lines with new colours and we also have a new version of our washes on the way, same great colours and higher pigment content than GW...or less if you go for the Soft version but it will stay exactly where you put it and not run off everywhere allowing for some great precision when applying the washes.

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 Supershandy wrote:
Wow, we missed this party!

But then again we've been extremely busy lately, to answer one important question we are not planning any price rises this year so you can be rest assured that not only will you be able to get hold of high quality paint in various dropper bottle sizes in GW matched shades, you will now save even more money buying through us!

In regards to our products being available in retail environments, there are plans to get this underway this year in the U.K only for now but we plan to be hitting international stores within 2-3 years (unless we get any requests in the interim, we've already had some interest from U.S stores)

As for international markets, this was one of the first considerations we made when we were planning the brand and our pricing is the most competitive in the market as well as fast (Parcels arriving in Australia in a much as 2 weeks...sometimes less).

We're also getting a lot of love for our metallic paints at the moment across social media with the realism being one of the high points as well as it's ease of use, we also regularly update our lines with new colours and we also have a new version of our washes on the way, same great colours and higher pigment content than GW...or less if you go for the Soft version but it will stay exactly where you put it and not run off everywhere allowing for some great precision when applying the washes.

You can use the links below to check out more about us and if you look at our recent work, you'll see an interesting modification we did to a Riptide model


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