10th Edition Rumour Roundup - in the grim darkness of the far future, there are only power levels

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**Apple fox**

I wasn’t the only one to read Nom, it just made sense in a very confused way.

**Tsagualsa**

Apple fox wrote:
I wasn’t the only one to read Nom, it just made sense in a very confused way.

Obviously you're both wrong, and 10th edition will see the true horror of the hivemind unleashed:

**The Phazer**

drbored wrote:
Norn Emissary is an interesting name.

You've got things like "Hive Tyrant" and "Swarmlord" and such that are just normal words. Not everything is named "Tervigon" and "Maleceptor" and such, just most things.

Both of those are quite old unit names, and Swarmlord isn't a dictionary word. It's probably trademarkable in the context of a toy soldier if someone else doesn't already have it.

**Ahtman**

I wonder if they'll bring back the Tyranid event table.

**Danny76**

So was there some kind of “Valrak reveals all” video today about the Lion or was it nothing?

**Mentlegen324**

Danny76 wrote:
So was there some kind of “Valrak reveals all” video today about the Lion or was it nothing?

Was there supposed to be?

**Tsagualsa**

Danny76 wrote:
So was there some kind of “Valrak reveals all” video today about the Lion or was it nothing?

Yesterday, actually, but the Tarot card did not pan out and showed something about Farsight instead

Which was pretty obvious, seeing that we apparentyl get 4 cards per book, and are on card two for Farsight/Snikrot right now. The first Lion card will come in three weeks at the earliest.

**Danny76**

Sounds about right..

Where is all the tarot stuff.
Never got posted in the AoO thread here did it?

**Tsagualsa**

Danny76 wrote:
Sounds about right..

Where is all the tarot stuff.
Never got posted in the AoO thread here did it?

There's a handy summary on reddit:

Format's pretty simple; Numeral. Name of the Card - High Gothic Blurb - "Card Reader's Description" - What the image on the card actually is - What I think it means.

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I. Galaxy - De Galaxis Profundi - "The galaxy burns in the fire of ambition, another round of a great game begins." - Depicts an orrery draped with bells on ribbons, alongside a goblet and bowl of fruit. - My Interpretation; Not much meaning, just set up.

II. The Despoiler - Hereticus Ultima - "The despoiler, venom in his hearts, and blood on his blades. What new darkness does he bring?" - Depicts a King with a flaming crown, seated upon a throne of Chaos. There is a snake around his throat, and he holds a scroll and an apple with maggots - My Interpretation; This one's super obvious, it's Abaddon.

III. The Hulk - Gargantua Perditum - "The Hulk, the Arks of Omen, Monuments of iron, and stone, and hate, and time." - Depicts a Castle on an island, encircled by a ring of stars, with skeletons approaching by boat. - My Interpretation; The castle is the Imperium in general, and the boats are the actual arks, ships of death if you will.

IV. The Silver Key - Clavargentis - "Ah, the silver key. New doorways, new paths, new possibilities." - Depicts a key made of gears, floating in space. - My Interpretation; With AoO: Abaddon out, this one is pretty obvious, it's the prophesized key Abaddon and Vashtorr are trying to make.

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V. The Great Hoste - De Infernum Legionis - "The great hoste, a blood red tide of singing blades. Led by..." - Depicts 8 Wolf Heads impaled on Spears - My Interpretation; It's the World Eaters

VI. Hound - Abominus - "The hound, a great beast, unliving but undying, it claws at reality's gate." - Depicts a great wolf's head in front of an eight-pointed star. Its mouth is drooling blood into a chalice. There's also some skull candles. - My Interpretation; It's Angron

VII. The Shattered World - Apocalyptus Est - "The shattered world, devastation, annihilation, the future reeks of cataclysm." - Depicts an angelic figure with long hair and golden wings. Surrounded by four cherubs with skulls for heads. - My Interpretation; My gut reaction was Cadia, but maybe it's just general prophetic doom. Could also just be the planet Angron is fighting on; Malakbael.

VIII. God Emperor (Inversed) - De Imperator Invertus - "God Emperor, inversed, the Imperium's end, the fall of humanity's empire." - Depicts the Emperor's Skull upside down. - My Interpretation; My friend put a ton of stock into this and said it was GW hinting the Emperor would die. I'm more skeptical, I say it means the Imperium is teetering on the brink of destruction (like it always has been), or maybe they'll just lose this one battle. I wager we'll know what it means once the Angron book comes out.

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IX. Daemon - Malevolus - "Daemon, the veil grows thin, malignancy bleeds through, from one world, into the next." - Depicts some spooky eyes looking through a broken wall. - My Interpretation; It's Vashtorr manifesting into reality to fight things.

X. Astartes - Angelus Mortis - "Astartes. And here stand the angels of death, bloodied, but unbroken." - Depicts an angelic figure in green robes, holding a broken sword and a shield, standing in front of a forest and a pyramid, and behind a pile of bodies. - My Interpretation; It's the Dark Angels

XI. The Lightning Tower - De Fulminatorum Colossi - "The lightning tower. A great war. Fire and wrath unleashed on sacred rock." - Depicts a stone tower being struck by lightning amidst a raging sea. - My Interpretation; This one is definitely the Rock. We now know Vashtorr is attacking it in book three from the boxset, afterall.

XII. Daemon (Inversed) - Malevolus Invertus - "Daemon, inversed. And yet... chaos is fickle, forever turning upon itself." - Depicts two daemons stabbing each other. - My Interpretation; We're gonna get some chaos infighting. Vashtorr vs. The Fallen perhaps? Those guys do have a way of worming themselves into every Dark Angels plot.

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XIII. The Horde - Beastiarus Magnifactor - “The Horde. A horde descends, scarlet and crimson souls, blood drunk, blood maddened, flooding the galaxy.” - Depicts a hand emerging from a pile of rats and reaching for Farsight’s Sword. - My Interpretation; I reckon Angron and the World Eaters are gonna end up fighting Farsight and his Exclave. I could also see this being Orks, a different “Horde” faction out for a good bit of violence, given the World Eaters were previously called “The Hoste”

XIV. The Young Warrior - De Bellicosa Novitius - “The young warrior. And a light gutters in the endless black, it may scourge the red tide. It may drown beneath its waves.” - Depicts a human warrior leading a horse to some signposts. However, the horse has the Tau Empire symbol on its armor, and the warrior is holding Farsight’s sword. - My Interpretation; Further indication of Farsight facing off against the horde.

XV. Not out Yet

XVI. Not out Yet

https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/10t8l8b/about_those_tarot_card_teasers/

If you want to see the actual videos you can go either to the website and click the Arks of Omen banner, or go to the Youtube channel:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/arks-of-omen/

https://www.youtube.com/@officialwarhammer/videos

**silverstu**

The Norn emissary gaunt - in 3rd edition there used to be a mutation you could give a gaunt to act as a hive node, becoming a synapse creature. This could be an evolution of that.[model wise it was a gaunt with a warrior head],

**Manfred von Drakken**

Regarding XIII: It's got to be the Orks, since GW has already stated that Book 4 is "a strictly Xenos affair". Also, doesn't Farsight have some unfinished business with Orks?

**Geifer**

XIV talks about a "red tide", which doesn't sound like Orks to me. Might be Tyranids if it's supposed to be strictly Xenos.

On the one hand that fits with the rumors of Tyranids being the other poster boy of 10th ed. On the other hand we saw and Ork silhouette in the new year's preview?

To conclude, Hrud or bust! I have spoken.

**Shadow Walker**

silverstu wrote:
The Norn emissary gaunt - in 3rd edition there used to be a mutation you could give a gaunt to act as a hive node, becoming a synapse creature. This could be an evolution of that.[model wise it was a gaunt with a warrior head],

You may be right. Totally forgot about the old mutant genus rules.

**RazorEdge**

"Red Tide" sounds like a complete new Tyranid Swarm Fleet is coming.

**JWBS**

Studio tyranids have been mostly purple and ivory for a while, idk if the lore has much to say about any commonly accepted colourations but the presentation of the models doesn't say red. I'd say tide can only probably suggest Tyranids, Orks, or Chaos though.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

silverstu wrote:
The Norn emissary gaunt - in 3rd edition there used to be a mutation you could give a gaunt to act as a hive node, becoming a synapse creature. This could be an evolution of that.[model wise it was a gaunt with a warrior head],

Kind of.

It was a no-Brainer, army theme reading upgrade which upped the Ld from 5 to 10, neatly removing any need to manage your synaptic web, allowing boring Monstrous Creature heavy lists to dominate, as your two troop tax units no longer needed any kind of support.

**Shadow Walker**

Red Tide may simply mean Angron's bloody rampage which may face a strong xenos opposition, be it Nids, Orks or T'au.

**Tsagualsa**

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
silverstu wrote:
The Norn emissary gaunt - in 3rd edition there used to be a mutation you could give a gaunt to act as a hive node, becoming a synapse creature. This could be an evolution of that.[model wise it was a gaunt with a warrior head],

Kind of.

It was a no-Brainer, army theme reading upgrade which upped the Ld from 5 to 10, neatly removing any need to manage your synaptic web, allowing boring Monstrous Creature heavy lists to dominate, as your two troop tax units no longer needed any kind of support.

It remains to be seen what they do with the concept, but imho the fact that it's noticeable enough to make it into early-stage rumours counts against it just being a 10-point morale upgrade of no great importance. At least it seems that it gets its own dedicated model, which probably means a significant-ish battlefield role.

**Geifer**

JWBS wrote:
Studio tyranids have been mostly purple and ivory for a while, idk if the lore has much to say about any commonly accepted colourations but the presentation of the models doesn't say red. I'd say tide can only probably suggest Tyranids, Orks, or Chaos though.

GW does occasionally change the poster boys of some factions. Currently for Eldar it's Saim Hann after Iyanden was in the spotlight during 7th ed. Tau used to have T'au front and center, these days it's Vior'la I think.

Tau fought Leviathan and Gorgonzola already, with the former being the poster boys for now, but we can't rule out that someone else takes the spotlight next edition.

**Arson Fire**

I doubt that this red tide is tyranid related. Sounds more like a khorne thing to me.

If it were tyranids, unless they come up with a new fleet then behemoth is the fleet with the most red colouration. Although they're past their prime and I wouldn't expect them to become the poster boys again. Maybe one of the splinters of behemoth which have been mentioned a few times in recent codexes, like the court of the nephilim king. But I very much doubt it.

**Dysartes**

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
silverstu wrote:
The Norn emissary gaunt - in 3rd edition there used to be a mutation you could give a gaunt to act as a hive node, becoming a synapse creature. This could be an evolution of that.[model wise it was a gaunt with a warrior head],

Kind of.

It was a no-Brainer, army theme reading upgrade which upped the Ld from 5 to 10, neatly removing any need to manage your synaptic web, allowing boring Monstrous Creature heavy lists to dominate, as your two troop tax units no longer needed any kind of support.

Given the size of the cranium compared to the body, one could definite argue it was a "big brain" upgrade...

**Mentlegen324**

Geifer wrote:
XIV talks about a "red tide", which doesn't sound like Orks to me. Might be Tyranids if it's supposed to be strictly Xenos.

On the one hand that fits with the rumors of Tyranids being the other poster boy of 10th ed. On the other hand we saw and Ork silhouette in the new year's preview?

To conclude, Hrud or bust! I have spoken.

Based on what happens in the new Arks of Omen Angron book its

Spoiler:

Either that, or the effects of that event on someone else.

**Tsagualsa**

Mentlegen324 wrote:
Geifer wrote:
XIV talks about a "red tide", which doesn't sound like Orks to me. Might be Tyranids if it's supposed to be strictly Xenos.

On the one hand that fits with the rumors of Tyranids being the other poster boy of 10th ed. On the other hand we saw and Ork silhouette in the new year's preview?

To conclude, Hrud or bust! I have spoken.

Based on what happens in the new Arks of Omen Angron book its

Spoiler:

An entire Imperial Crusade Fleet (and whoever else was there) declared traitor after going insane from the destruction of a DOAT Psyker Fueled Mini-astronomican device used beyond its limits.Only survivors unaffected are Grey Knights, Custodes and Sisters of SIlence

It may be a setup for finally doing proper traitor guard in 10th.

**Mentlegen324**

Tsagualsa wrote:
Mentlegen324 wrote:
Geifer wrote:
XIV talks about a "red tide", which doesn't sound like Orks to me. Might be Tyranids if it's supposed to be strictly Xenos.

On the one hand that fits with the rumors of Tyranids being the other poster boy of 10th ed. On the other hand we saw and Ork silhouette in the new year's preview?

To conclude, Hrud or bust! I have spoken.

Based on what happens in the new Arks of Omen Angron book its

Spoiler:

An entire Imperial Crusade Fleet (and whoever else was there) declared traitor after going insane from the destruction of a DOAT Psyker Fueled Mini-astronomican device used beyond its limits.Only survivors unaffected are Grey Knights, Custodes and Sisters of SIlence

It may be a setup for finally doing proper traitor guard in 10th.

There's also

Spoiler:

**Tsagualsa**

Quick info:

Added summaries for today's and saturday's videos to the OP.

Probably at the end of the week, maybe sooner if i have time, i'll reorganize the OP and hide the older updates in a spoiler or something.

Question: do you think we need thematical summaries for the topics box set, 10th edition in general, marines and tyranids, or do you think the chronological updates are enough?

**Dudeface**

Tsagualsa wrote:
Quick info:

Added summaries for today's and saturday's videos to the OP.

Probably at the end of the week, maybe sooner if i have time, i'll reorganize the OP and hide the older updates in a spoiler or something.

Question: do you think we need thematical summaries for the topics box set, 10th edition in general, marines and tyranids, or do you think the chronological updates are enough?

You're doing a grand job and at this stage chronological is fine but at some point in the not too distant future it might need to be grouped by topic, but I'd also argue at that point each topic is it's own thread. Only extra feedback I can suggest is posting the summaries in with these comments like the one I'm replying to so people aren't then forced to go to the OP. Thank you again though, doing great work.

That aside, I think the date feels right given everything else we know is happening. Indexes without a huge reset are bizarre, the suggestion that WE are a peek behind the curtain is interesting as it leaves a question mark if they'll need an index entry or not.

**Tsagualsa**

Dudeface wrote:
Tsagualsa wrote:
Quick info:

Added summaries for today's and saturday's videos to the OP.

Probably at the end of the week, maybe sooner if i have time, i'll reorganize the OP and hide the older updates in a spoiler or something.

Question: do you think we need thematical summaries for the topics box set, 10th edition in general, marines and tyranids, or do you think the chronological updates are enough?

You're doing a grand job and at this stage chronological is fine but at some point in the not too distant future it might need to be grouped by topic, but I'd also argue at that point each topic is it's own thread. Only extra feedback I can suggest is posting the summaries in with these comments like the one I'm replying to so people aren't then forced to go to the OP. Thank you again though, doing great work.

That aside, I think the date feels right given everything else we know is happening. Indexes without a huge reset are bizarre, the suggestion that WE are a peek behind the curtain is interesting as it leaves a question mark if they'll need an index entry or not.

Alright, i'll do that for the next update, makes sense. For the time being i'll keep the topics together because they tend to appear in the sames videos, maybe the army-specific ones can be split off later when we have more info. I think until then the summaries are good enough, and can be ported over to a new thread if the need arises.

**SamusDrake**

Sorry, not quite the right thread...

**The Phazer**

Valrak's latest video says the release day is June 24th, and that GW staff are being told they're not allowed to book leave around then.

FWIW, I know GW have done the not allowed to book leave around previous 40k launches and this is about the same level of notice, so I can believe that.

He also speaks a bit about how he's not sure how much of a "reset" the rules are, but just that it is a codex reset and the edition will have indexes at launch. So sounds a bit more consistent with the other rumours.

**Tsagualsa**

The Phazer wrote:
Valrak's latest video says the release day is June 24th, and that GW staff are being told they're not allowed to book leave around then.

FWIW, I know GW have done the not allowed to book leave around previous 40k launches and this is about the same level of notice, so I can believe that.

He also speaks a bit about how he's not sure how much of a "reset" the rules are, but just that it is a codex reset and the edition will have indexes at launch. So sounds a bit more consistent with the other rumours.

Aye, i added that to the OP yesterday