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The Great Satan (East Coast)

How often have you seen a pricey resin model that was poorly executed due to the inexperience of the modeler and thought, "Can this model be redeemed and brought to it's potential glory." Such was my first excursion into purchasing a cripple on the 'Net' and attempting to restore it to the beauty it so richly deserved.

Here is the unhappy victim as it was presented on Ebay some five years ago or so. I really overpaid for this model even though I got it for substantially less that the FW price.

Caveat Emperor,

Blackadder
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Not only was it painted thickly with paint and simulated mud but even the treads were installed upsidedown and mismatched

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The Great Satan (East Coast)

This was my first experience with resin models and what surprised me the most was the heaviness of the material. The first order of business was to try to remove the loose and broken parts as there was some shipping damage on receipt. The model appeared to be cemented together with epoxy and Cyano-acetate glue.

Here is the Model as it was received:
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The Great Satan (East Coast)

Another thing I found out about resin models is in spite of the brittleness of the material it can take a surprising degree of prying with knives and chizels to disassemble the pieces and not shatter. After disassembling the entire model I scraped every last bit of paint and glue from the pieces. A regular kitchen paring knife I found was the best tool to do this and a #11 Exacto blade and a pin vise with micro bit drill for those hard to reach places

In about a week I had the model down to the bare resin.
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Alaska

Surely there was a faster way to strip the paint from the resin? +1 for the elbow grease!

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The Great Satan (East Coast)

FoxPhoenix135 wrote:Surely there was a faster way to strip the paint from the resin? +1 for the elbow grease!


Probably is but the job I had at the time gave me a lot of time sitting in metropolitan traffic and everytime I stopped I scraped a little more from the pieces I had with me. Talk about multi tasking

EB

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Anchorage

The_Blackadder wrote:
FoxPhoenix135 wrote:Surely there was a faster way to strip the paint from the resin? +1 for the elbow grease!


Probably is but the job I had at the time gave me a lot of time sitting in metropolitan traffic and everytime I stopped I scraped a little more from the pieces I had with me. Talk about multi tasking

EB

Hahaha... You, sir, are a dedicated gamer.

"Well, looks can be deceiving."
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The bit stuck on the side of England. Wales isn't it.

Whats resin like with paint stripper? When using it on metal it turns superglue( Cyanoacrylate ) to jelly. Strips paint and removes glue , which is great unfortunatly turns plastic to mush too. But what about resin anyone know?

 
   
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Alaska

Rico wrote:
The_Blackadder wrote:
FoxPhoenix135 wrote:Surely there was a faster way to strip the paint from the resin? +1 for the elbow grease!


Probably is but the job I had at the time gave me a lot of time sitting in metropolitan traffic and everytime I stopped I scraped a little more from the pieces I had with me. Talk about multi tasking

EB

Hahaha... You, sir, are a dedicated gamer.


This belongs in the "You know you play too much 40k when...." thread!

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life.

yes it does. i admire your dedication, but putting the tank (pieces or otherwise) in a bucket of the correct paint stripper would have been much easier on the tank (knife = rents in resin, although i suppose "battle" damage too) and your hands. carrying a tank around must have drawn eyes and been a pain in the behind.

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The Great Satan (East Coast)

FoxPhoenix135 wrote:
Rico wrote:
The_Blackadder wrote:
FoxPhoenix135 wrote:Surely there was a faster way to strip the paint from the resin? +1 for the elbow grease!


Probably is but the job I had at the time gave me a lot of time sitting in metropolitan traffic and everytime I stopped I scraped a little more from the pieces I had with me. Talk about multi tasking

EB

Hahaha... You, sir, are a dedicated gamer.


This belongs in the "You know you play too much 40k when...." thread!


I should forbear responding to this as the answer may ban me from this forum but I've never played a session of 40k; I just like building the models. My son is the gamer and quite good at it so I hear .

EB

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Oh, that's alright by me. I collect the models mostly to improve my painting skills. With yung'uns around, I have a lot of downtime when they are napping that I need a quiet hobby to fill.

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The Great Satan (East Coast)

lord marcus wrote:yes it does. i admire your dedication, but putting the tank (pieces or otherwise) in a bucket of the correct paint stripper would have been much easier on the tank (knife = rents in resin, although i suppose "battle" damage too) and your hands. carrying a tank around must have drawn eyes and been a pain in the behind.


Besides ending up with a pile of sticky goo I mighten have hit a bump and spilled the whole mess. I opted not to use stripper for reasons that seemed good to me. Of course I didn't carry the whole tank around in public just pieces and never outside of the car.

Garnering more than his fair share of strange looks anyhow,

Blackadder


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lord marcus wrote:yes it does. i admire your dedication, but putting the tank (pieces or otherwise) in a bucket of the correct paint stripper would have been much easier on the tank (knife = rents in resin, although i suppose "battle" damage too) and your hands. carrying a tank around must have drawn eyes and been a pain in the behind.


Resin is surprisingly resistant to scratches and has the added bonus of not holding paint very well A paring knife (my tool of choice) doesn't retain much of an edge and is ideal for chipping paint from resin without any detectible renting. You would be amazed how quickly you can remove a square inch of paint with my method.

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The Great Satan (East Coast)

I'd better post some of the primed images so I'm not branded a total cretin. I took extreme care not to damage the model anymore than it already was when received. I very much wanted to have as near a 'cherry' Lucius Baneblade as possible when finished. I found that Krylon grey sandable primer is ideal for a base coat. Thin, opaque and fast drying it is (was) the best paint on the market. The dirty little engineers and PR people got to listening to too many wouldbe female crafters and redesigned the nozzle so you can't get a decent spray pattern anymore. I have one can of it left and I'm saving it for my Warhound.

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Well you could always save the nozzle and hopefully that will fit on the new cans of the stuff...


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This really is a labour of love!

Brilliant project and it looks great re-primed.

I totally know what you mean about gaming, I too rarely play 40K anymore. Painting and modelling were always the big draws for me even when I worked for GW.

People always ask me in my Diorama blogs if the vehicles will ever be used for wargaming and often sound really disapointed when I say no

As for the driving and modeling, be careful! In the UK you get a ticket and penalty points on your licence for driving and using a cell phone, can't imagine what a policeman would say if they saw you building a model kit! Haha

   
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I'm really enjoying this thread. I guess I love seeing the nitty-gritty of the project, stage by stage.

Can't wait to see the painting.

And then to watch it dry.

   
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Good job on getting oit back down to basics.

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The_Blackadder wrote:The dirty little engineers and PR people got to listening to too many wouldbe female crafters and redesigned the nozzle so you can't get a decent spray pattern anymore.


Mind explaining both of your problems?

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The Great Satan (East Coast)

Lemmingspawn wrote:Well you could always save the nozzle and hopefully that will fit on the new cans of the stuff...


Unfortunately they've switched from the standard nozzle that's been around for fifty+ years to one that you can adjust the spray pattern from a horizontal spray to a vertical spray and it delivers too much paint in any case. The stem it totally different and not interchangeable. Pity because that is the basic paint for all my models.

Blackadder

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The Great Satan (East Coast)

Getting the treads and bogies to fit just right is the hardest part of building this model. I had to sand down the bogie bases and drive and steering bases to get the treads to make the curves properly.

The diameter of the wheels even the round ones vary by as much as a millimeter so judicious scrapping brought them to a reasonably homogenous size.
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The Great Satan (East Coast)

Just a few more shots of the sub assemblies.

The rear bogie wheel in the first shot is actually egg shaped which prompts the question: Does FW actually have quality control or do they just pack whatever pops out of the moulds???
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The Great Satan (East Coast)

My son was anxious to field this beast so I let him even though the decals and tirm, antennas, etc were not installed. After all I professed it was for him that I embarked on this project. That's my story and I sticking with it.

E.B.

I must admit it looked fine on a battle board.
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Looks fantastic

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Loricatus- you realize ya just necro'd a year old thread?

It is nice to see good models rescued though. The things people have done to good models never ceases to baffle me.

   
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I would have thought that necromancy in the tutorial section would be a good thing, as it cycles the threads around; meaning that different tutorials surface.

But that's just me

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Yep, like a P&M blog, tutorials should be fine to necro....

   
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Now hang on - he sprayed the thing grey and fielded it??? There MUST be more to the story! I refuse to believe that this guy went to all the trouble of getting the paint off just to spray the thing GRAY.

Oh my gosh, please! Some updated pics!

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