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225 Typhus

120 Chosen 4 meltaguns

301 7 plague marines 2 plasma guns, champion with powerfist
Rhino daemonic possession, havoc launcher

301 7 plague marines 2 plasma guns, champion with powerfist
Rhino daemonic possession, havoc launcher

291 7 plague marines 2 meltaguns, champion with powerfist
Rhino daemonic possession, havoc launcher

281 7 plague marines 2 flamers, champion with powerfist
Rhino daemonic possession, havoc launcher

160 Vindicator daemonic possession, havoc launcher

160 vindicator daemonic possession, havoc launcher

160 vindicator daemonic possession, havoc launcher

1,999 points, 4 scoring units, 13 kill points


I was also wondering what special weapons came in the plague marines box?

Also does anyone know of any good bit sites to get special weapons?

Thanks.

DOOOM wrote:225 Typhus

Your points could be better spent, but Typhus is still great. Keep him away from Power Fists and the like and he'll serve you well.

DOOOM wrote:120 Chosen 4 meltaguns

Pretty standard stuff there, gunna die early on, and will crumble in CC, but if the chance to pop that Russ or Land Raider (or, more likely, transport) turn 1 is worth the points for a unit that won't last long, go for it. These guys are especially squishy in a Nurgle List, where they are the only units without Feel no pain and T5.

DOOOM wrote: 301 7 plague marines 2 plasma guns, champion with powerfist
Rhino daemonic possession, havoc launcher

Drop the Posession and Havoc Launcher, it looks like a great combo, but it's too espensive, especially considering that rhinos are still fragile, and a single weapon destroyed or immobilized result is just as likely to happen as crew shaken/stunned. Get Extra Armor if you absolutely positively have to get it's movement, but even that is advised against
I would drop one unit, probably the flamers, in favor of a small unit of terminators for typhus to come in with.

160 Vindicator daemonic possession, havoc launcher

160 vindicator daemonic possession, havoc launcher

160 vindicator daemonic possession, havoc launcher

Looking Ok there, you could probably drop one, as well as the above, in order to get More Termies.
I suggest some Obliterators too, I hate them personally, but they are definetely worth their points, and will work great in tandem with some termies, as well as adding some much needed long range firepower to your army.


I can't help you on the bitz, but I can suggest you pay attention to the Ads all over Dakka, I've visited most of them, and you can find some great stuff there for a lot cheaper than what GW wants.

Thanks for the quick reply!

The reason I'm using 3 vindicators is because I love the idea of using three vindicators and also I want to get the apocalypse special and three space marine vindicators for 95 U.S. dollars.

Also my friend is trading me 4 unassembled rhinos for some of my stuff so I kinda want to use all of them.

Heres a revised list:
225 Typhus

190 4 Terminator champions 3 pairs of lightning claws

281 7 plague marines 2 plasma guns, champion with powerfist
Rhino extra armor

281 7 plague marines 2 plasma guns, champion with powerfist
Rhino extra armor

271 7 plague marines 2 meltaguns, champion with powerfist
Rhino extra armor

271 7 plague marines 2 meltaguns, champion with powerfist
Rhino extra armor

160 Vindicator daemonic possession, havoc launcher

160 vindicator daemonic possession, havoc launcher

160 vindicator daemonic possession, havoc launcher

1,999 points, 4 scoring units, 13 kill points

DOOOM wrote:225 Typhus

190 4 Terminator champions 3 pairs of lightning claws

Lightning Claws never really felt too super Nurgly to me. As everything Nurgle has lately been getting lower initiative, maybe give these fellas some long range ability if you plan to walk them. If walking isn't really your route with these fellas maybe give them a heavy flamer and some power fists?

DOOOM wrote:281 7 plague marines 2 plasma guns, champion with powerfist
Rhino extra armor

281 7 plague marines 2 plasma guns, champion with powerfist
Rhino extra armor

271 7 plague marines 2 meltaguns, champion with powerfist
Rhino extra armor

271 7 plague marines 2 meltaguns, champion with powerfist
Rhino extra armor

I like your troops mostly. You stick to a very fluffy 7 for every squad. The meltagun guys know what they need to be doing but I feel the Plas groups might lack some direction against hordes. Maybe swap a single plasma gun in each of those squads for a flamer? Then the rhino could park in cover and double tap plasma shots at a close enemy, then if the transport is destroyed or closed in on the PMs can get out hit them with the flamer and shots of pistols and charge in to stick them there.

Also, the extra armor is sinking 60 points here. Those points could be better spent elsewhere. Maybe on a few extra terminator bodies.

DOOOM wrote:160 Vindicator daemonic possession, havoc launcher

160 vindicator daemonic possession, havoc launcher

160 vindicator daemonic possession, havoc launcher

YEAH! Awesome, I've always wanted to try this! Have fun with it! And if it ever gives you problems in competitive play you can swap them out for 6 Oblits.

Thanks for the reply.

Lightning Claws never really felt too super Nurgly to me.

I know it's not very nurgly I just love lightning claw terminator champions. There just so killy! I'll think of fluff for my army to have them make more sense. I might call them the plague spreaders or something like that.


Here is my new list.
225 Typhus

250 5 Terminator champions 5 pairs of lightning claws

256 7 plague marines plasma guns, flamer, champion with powerfist
Rhino

256 7 plague marines plasma gun, flamer, champion with powerfist
Rhino

256 7 plague marines 2 meltaguns, champion with powerfist
Rhino

256 7 plague marines 2 meltaguns, champion with powerfist
Rhino

160 Vindicator daemonic possession, havoc launcher

160 vindicator daemonic possession, havoc launcher

160 vindicator daemonic possession, havoc launcher

1,799 points, 4 scoring units, 13 kill points

I still have 21 points that I don't know what to do with. Any ideas?

DOOOM wrote:
250 5 Terminator champions 5 pairs of lightning claws

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I still have 21 points that I don't know what to do with. Any ideas?

I see you have spent 10 points for an extra attack on each Termie there. Upgrading Termies to champs is kind of a waste, the extra attack especially when they have LCs really isn't all that more impressive. If you downgrade them to normal termies, you could get two more termies with combi-weapons. If you plan on deep striking them with Typhus I'd say go for some combi-meltas or combi-flamers.

Upgrading Termies to champs is kind of a waste, the extra attack especially when they have LCs really isn't all that more impressive.

It's funny because when I consulted my friend about this list he told me that the termies are useless without the mark of khorne. Would it be a travesty to paint khorne icon nurgely?

I made two lists one with termies of doom and five attacks and the other with lots of templates ( even though I was told not to I just like the ides of 7 small blasts and 3 large blasts also it woulld distract more fire away from the vindicators)

Termie list:
225 Typhus

290 5 Terminator champions 4 pairs of lightning claws, chainfist, flamer, icon of khorne

256 7 plague marines plasma guns, flamer, champion with powerfist
Rhino

256 7 plague marines plasma gun, flamer, champion with powerfist
Rhino

256 7 plague marines 2 meltaguns, champion with powerfist
Rhino

233 6 plague marines 2 meltaguns, champion with powerfist
Rhino

160 Vindicator daemonic possession, havoc launcher

160 vindicator daemonic possession, havoc launcher

160 vindicator daemonic possession, havoc launcher

1,996 points, 4 scoring units, 13 kill points


Template list of dooooom:
225 Typhus

210 5 Terminators 5 pairs of lightning claws, chainfist, flamer

271 7 plague marines plasma guns, flamer, champion with powerfist
Rhino havoc launcher

271 7 plague marines plasma gun, flamer, champion with powerfist
Rhino havoc launcher

271 7 plague marines 2 meltaguns, champion with powerfist
Rhino havoc launcher

271 7 plague marines 2 meltaguns, champion with powerfist
Rhino havoc launcher

160 Vindicator daemonic possession, havoc launcher

160 vindicator daemonic possession, havoc launcher

160 vindicator daemonic possession, havoc launcher

1,999 points, 4 scoring units, 13 kill points

Does your friend play CSM competitively in tournaments? 3 attacks that reroll hits/wounds is good, it's 4 on the charge, even better. Your termies should be the ones charging. Why not give them an Icon of Nurgle if you have the points? It makes a lot of sense considering the rest of your army.

(225) Typhus
(270) 6x Termies, 5x LCs, IoN
(256) 7x PMs Plasma guns, Flamer, Champ w/PF, Rhino
(256) 7x PMs Plasma guns, Flamer, Champ w/PF, Rhino
(256) 7x PMs Meltagun x2, Champ w/PF, Rhino
(256) 7x PMs Meltagun x2, Champ w/PF, Rhino
(160) Vindicator daemonic possession, havoc launcher
(160) vindicator daemonic possession, havoc launcher
(160) vindicator daemonic possession, havoc launcher

This is similar to all your lists except that the termies number 7 (with Typhus with them) and they have an IoN to give them all T 5.

Terminators with IoK work better when they all have LCs because they are only good in combat, much like an IoK. IoN terminators with LCs are still good. Personally I find that unless their in a landraider LC terminators have a hard time because they cant do any damage when they come in and its easy to just run away from them. I prefer to have my terminators with guns.

Try to avoid mixing special weapons in squads. Its far better to have a simgle role for a squad that they do well, rather than trying to make them good at several things (which never works). Its a much more efficient use of points to have then in specific roles (anti-tank/anti-horde). I would suggest giving all of them meltas because you're quite light on anti-tank.

Although some people like having havoc launchers on vindicators just in case they demolisher cannon gets blown off I dont think its worth the points. If you lose the cannon the best that tank can do is become a mobile wall. Get rid of them and spend the points on more plague marines or terminators.

Regwon wrote:Terminators with IoK work better when they all have LCs because they are only good in combat, much like an IoK. IoN terminators with LCs are still good. Personally I find that unless their in a landraider LC terminators have a hard time because they cant do any damage when they come in and its easy to just run away from them. I prefer to have my terminators with guns.

If they were assaulting from a Landraider I'd say IoK. But since they are DSing in, IoN for the extra T is going to help weather the storm of fire a little better. Some Combi-Meltas would be nice in there, but I think he has his heart set on LCs, well until he finds out that CSM termies don't come with LCs.

(225) Typhus
(270) 6x Termies, 5x LCs, IoN
(256) 7x PMs Plasma guns, Flamer, Champ w/PF, Rhino
(256) 7x PMs Plasma guns, Flamer, Champ w/PF, Rhino
(256) 7x PMs Meltagun x2, Champ w/PF, Rhino
(256) 7x PMs Meltagun x2, Champ w/PF, Rhino
(160) Vindicator daemonic possession, havoc launcher
(160) vindicator daemonic possession, havoc launcher
(160) vindicator daemonic possession, havoc launcher

I like this list alot and I think I will use it. Thank you for the help!

This only leaves the question of what special weapons come in the plague marine box?

Thanks again!