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Dangerous Skeleton Captain






Well, I lied a little, counting the numerous paint splattered abortions many years ago, this lady is something like my eleventh space marine. Why female, you cry? Well, it's more for the 'fun factor' than anything else. This model is a one-off, so fluff purists (of whom I would consider myself a member) need not fear an army of blasphemous female space marines appearing on a gaming table near you any time soon.I started this little project off more as a test bed for some new techniques I wanted to try out. The main points were:

1. Make a truescale marine
2. Try some freehand instead of using decals like I usually do.
3. Test out a technique for making a marble effect base. - Technique taken from Chest of Colours
4. Mixing gloss and matt areas on a model.
5. And finally for kicks, see if I could make an "attractive" female space marine without resorting to sculpting planets onto the chestplate. I am aiming for a reasonably "realistic" portrayal of a female with a regular Space Marine's physique in power armour. So, no chestplate modifications, because if there's anything left underneath after all those space-steroids and hormones have done their work, it would be covered up by the incredibly thick plate of armour anyway. However, I did slim the body down a little, to help give a slightly more feminine cast to the model. Otherwise, the watchword here is "subtle".

I am pretty happy with the results of 1-4, and as for 5, well, that is awaiting judgement. Main modifications to the figure are the slimming of the legs during the lengthening process, adjusting the angle of the pelvis, trimming down the codpiece and of course, tacking on a nicely sculpted head I borrowed from another model. She was supposed to have a helmet and grenades attached to her belt as well, but I lost the helmet, and I was too lazy to paint the grenades.



Details:


WIP


Comments and criticisms welcomed as always.

Disclaimer - I do not believe in female space marines. I merely did it for kicks.

P.S Cookies for anyone who gets the references.

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2nd Lieutenant





Australia

Personally i wouldn't mind versing against that female army, considering it doesn't have any breasts which is correct, so you have given the model the strength of the of a normal space marine but gives it the elegance of a female, kudos to you sir

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Nasty Nob





SoCal

That marine's got legs...

   
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Drop Trooper with Demo Charge





Great model, great paintjob. Now burn it and never speak of it again and we shall forgive you.

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Avatar of the Bloody-Handed God





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Very very nice 10/10

Now this is Truly Worthy to be called a Female Space Marine. Nice painting it deserves too!

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Huge Hierodule






North Bay, CA

I thought it turned out quite nice.

   
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Slicing Orb of Xandros






It looks good. I like the colour scheme and the freehand details on the armour.
   
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Junior Officer with Laspistol





Sheffield, England

LunaHound wrote:Very very nice 10/10

Now this is Truly Worthy to be called a Female Space Marine. Nice painting it deserves too!
100% agreed. Damn fine work.

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Moustache-twirling Princeps





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Very nice. I do agree that it is very "iconic" you could say. Looks like a collectors item to me!


 
   
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Lead-Footed Trukkboy Driver





The bit stuck on the side of England. Wales isn't it.

F.E.M.C and 13. Whats that mean then?

 
   
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Wise Ethereal with Bodyguard







Excellent paint job, but I'm not as sold on the proportions. She would probably be fine if she was supposed to be wearing normal clothes, but Marines are supposed to be wearing several inches of ceramite. She must be extremely slender underneath all that, especially in the leg area

(admittedly its a problem with normal marines as well)

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Preacher of the Emperor






Manchester, UK

Top notch work sir!

1500pts

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Slicing Orb of Xandros






vodski wrote:F.E.M.C and 13. Whats that mean then?


XIV is 14. Also sorry in advance if I offended you with this, as it wasn't my intention.
   
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Esteemed Veteran Space Marine




Sheppey, England

Nice work all round, Zandris. Love the red/white paint scheme and the resculpting is brilliantly done. The figure just *works*.

Click for a Relictors short story: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/412814.page

And the sequels HERE and HERE

Final part's up HERE

 
   
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Dakka Veteran






a very very nice model shame i despite female marines....

where is the head from btw?

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Dangerous Skeleton Captain






Flinty wrote:Excellent paint job, but I'm not as sold on the proportions. She would probably be fine if she was supposed to be wearing normal clothes, but Marines are supposed to be wearing several inches of ceramite. She must be extremely slender underneath all that, especially in the leg area

(admittedly its a problem with normal marines as well)


The trouble with power armour in general is that if you want it to be properly realistic and fit a human inside you will end up with a design closer to Heinlein's "hydrocephalic gorilla" or one of the Masamune Shirow type landmate suits. If you did try to fit a human into GW-styled space marine armour, it will look odd. For example one of the miniature companies (Khurasan miniatures?) posted a suit of power armour a while back that was basically GW power armour resculpted around a human body. It looked really, really odd. The aesthetic was just not made for that kind of realism.

Thanks to everyone else fo the kind comments.

FEMC = First Eastern Mirage Corps

Edit - Roadkill, the head is from Sasha Dubois, Time Chaser by Reaper Miniatures.

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Thunderhawk Pilot Dropping From Orbit




Iceland

ver nice I likes it

   
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Deva Functionary





LunaHound wrote:Very very nice 10/10

Now this is Truly Worthy to be called a Female Space Marine. Nice painting it deserves too!

100% agreement here

IF i should comment on enything els it would be to extend the armor of the upper legs abit to get it closer to the bottom part of the groin protector

But its still an most excellent model!!


 
   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut






Burtucky, Michigan

That is easily one of the nicest female SM Ive ever seen. You pulled this off awesomely

 
   
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Killer Klaivex






Forever alone

Awesome and realistic. Nice paintjob too.

And to those who say there are not, never have been, and never will be Female Space Marines, a pre-emptive 'you are a [expletive deleted].'

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People are like dice, a certain Frenchman said that. You throw yourself in the direction of your own choosing. People are free because they can do that. Everyone's circumstances are different, but no matter how small the choice, at the very least, you can throw yourself. It's not chance or fate. It's the choice you made. 
   
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Bonkers Buggy Driver with Rockets





ohio

very nice,like to see a squad of themsisters of battle,they havepower armour,so female space marines i mean power armour is power armour



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Great paint job.

Model sucks other than that.

No effort to make HER look like a woman.

1. Hands are too big. Same size as her head.
2. Waist is way to thick for being a woman.
3. No room for boobs. Armour has to have a differend design to accomidate breasts.

The base is amazing.

A++ for the paint and base.
F for not making the model look more like a woman.
4.

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Fixture of Dakka






Sacramento, CA

MauleedlovesYakeface wrote:Great paint job.

Model sucks other than that.

No effort to make HER look like a woman.

1. Hands are too big. Same size as her head.
2. Waist is way to thick for being a woman.
3. No room for boobs. Armour has to have a differend design to accomidate breasts.

The base is amazing.

A++ for the paint and base.
F for not making the model look more like a woman.
4.


I'd suggest you take a look at modern military armor, and see what female soldiers are wearing.

Hell, just pop in 'Iron Man'.. RDJr says it best.



But anyway, Fantastic model.

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Killer Klaivex






Forever alone

Do you seriously think that Space Marines actually fill their armour completely?

It's what, half a fething foot thick?

She's in fething power armour. Of course you can't pick out body details. Do you think Terminator armour is well-proportioned? Why would they have such front-heavy helmets and wear armour that gives them hunchbacks?

People are like dice, a certain Frenchman said that. You throw yourself in the direction of your own choosing. People are free because they can do that. Everyone's circumstances are different, but no matter how small the choice, at the very least, you can throw yourself. It's not chance or fate. It's the choice you made. 
   
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Moustache-twirling Princeps





About to eat your Avatar...

PLEASE DO NOT RUIN THIS THREAD.

I think we mostly enjoy this model very much, and if you do not that is fine... but seriously keep the elaborate scientific explanations to yourself.


 
   
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Armour is made to fill completely around the body. It's body armour. It's not an apartment. The thing about todays body armour is that it's just a chest piece and to be honest if a woman's breasts are too big the armour will not protect the wearer correctly.

Now onto Space Marine Armour. The Armour has it's own envirement. So the armour must fit correctly. This means that it needs to be molded to the person wearing it. So a thin waist on a woman is what you'd see. On top of it the hands alone are crazy big and a woman's hand would not fit into those gloves.

If any of you had gone to art class you'd understand that a woman's shoulders and hips are on the same vertical line. On men the armpit and the hips are on the same vertical line. So this model is based on the man figure and looks funny with a female head.

Crazy great paint job though.

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Dangerous Skeleton Captain






MauleedlovesYakeface wrote:
1. Hands are too big. Same size as her head.
2. Waist is way to thick for being a woman.
3. No room for boobs. Armour has to have a differend design to accomidate breasts.


1. Try putting on some gloves. Notice how big your hand gets? Now put on another glove on top of that. See how much bigger your hand is now? Now imagine your hand encased in a half inch of armour.
2. Thin waists are on bodybuilders. Those with true upper body strength (i.e. weightlifters) are built like barrels. I fail to see why a space marine should be any different. And even if the waist was slimmer than that of a regular marine, why compromise on armour?
3. As I've mentioned before, even if there were boobs left, they would be covered up under the armour anyway, ergo the modifications are unseen. However, if you do insist upon titmarines, then I would suggest googling or searching this forum for some of Doctor Thunder's Black Widows. The "modifications" would suit your taste much more I believe.

Thank you for the kind comments otherwise, but I just wanted to set things straight.

P.S. Do Mauleed and Yakface know you're using their names?

Extra edit: The under-armour may be form fitted, but you have the plates on top which can be molded to whatever shape you need. See modern day spacesuits with multiple layers, or even old plate armour with the form fitting undergarments. And thank you for bringing in art class anatomy. Please, do have a look at Space Marine armour, and tell me if you can fit a regular human in there. There is a reason all those cosplay space marines look goofy as hell. I took artistic license to make the chest and torso wider, and used a small-ish head on the figure to give the impression of hulking armour, sure, I could have kept the torso slimmer, but the style of marine armour does not lend itself to that look, and it would be really odd. Now I can understand where you are coming from if you were talking about say.. Eldar miniatures, since they have closely form-fitting armour, but for Space marines, this isn't the case.

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Svalarheima, MA

MauleedlovesYakeface wrote:Great paint job.

Model sucks other than that.


AGAIN, the P&M Forum is a place for CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM while maintaining a polite attitude.

If you don't like someone's work that much or a particular model, please feel free to ignore the thread entirely.

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Wrack Sufferer





Bat Country

Love the miniature, wonderful work.

Hate the nerd rage in this thread


Edit: Btw OP, would you mind a picture of her next to one of her male counterparts? What are the proportion comparisons like? Is she a true scale marine or is she just as tall as normal marines?

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Svalarheima, MA

Everyone - keep in mind this is the PAINTING and MODELING forum.

The correct place to debate the possibility of female Space Marines is in the BACKGROUND forum.

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