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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant




Kansas

HQ: {235}
CCS w/ Carapace, Camo Cloaks, Creed, Voxc, LC, MoO, OotF (235)

Fast Attack: {130}
Vendetta Gunship (130)

Troops: {705}
[3x]Vet Squad w/ Grenadiers, Vox, LC (125) [375]
[3x]Vet Squad w/ Grenadiers, AC (110) [330]

Heavy Support: {650}
-Medusa w/ Enclosed Crew Compartment (150)
-Executioner w/ PC spons, HB hull, HS pintle(240)
-Demolisher w/ MM spons, LC hull, Pask (260)

Grand Total: 1750
KP: 11

Creed is there to provide BiD!, FomT, or FRFSRF to 4 squads, while remaining in the backfield, making use of his 24" radius and the squads camo cloaks. He will also be giving either a free 6" scout move to the Demolisher, or allowing the Demolisher to outflank, depending on mission/deployment/opposing army. The Executioner is now fitted out for pure anti-infantry, and the AC Vets are without Vox's, as all the orders will be placed on the LC Vets, and the CCS's own LC, until all threatening vehicles are gone. The Medusa will be hidden behind cover, just enough to allow the cover save, and the Demolisher will be deployed as far forward as possible(unless outflanking, by chance) semi-likewise for the Executioner. The Vendetta will either sit back and fire its 3 TL LC's, or zip around the field, doing the same thing almost and providing possible cover.

I'm thinking about dropping some stuff to try and afford a squad of Stormtroopers, but I don't think they're much worth it at this points level even

This message was edited 5 times. Last update was at 2009/06/16 20:39:34



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Ok, the Vendetta doesn't need the sponson Heavy Bolters at all. Having only 1 means it will probably die quickly too because there isn't really much saturation to spread the anti-tank/skimmer fire around.

What is ECC on the Medusa? I'd drop it reguardless, the only thing that seems worthwhile for them is Bastion Breacher Shells.

Those vets are SCREAMING for special weapons to take advantage of that BS4, lots of them. 3x Plasma Gun would be ideal for squads you want on the line. I would rather have platoons to make up the majority of my line units and with that in mind I'd drop 3x Vet Squads to get a Platoon with a 4x flamer PCS and as many Autocannon/Grenade Launcher infantry squads as you can.

What does Creed do for you? I don't really think you need him. I'd ditch either Creed or the second CCS, take your pick. Whichever one is left should get Plasma Guns or Melta Guns (in addition to the lascannon) as opposed to flamers, which make the advantage you gain from BS4 literally useless. I'd also completely drop the Master of Ordnance, he's just not very good. He'll rarely ever actually hit what you want him to and is just not worth the 30pts.

I would absolutely put something in the Vendetta. Who cares if the unit inside can't shoot, that isn't the point (you don't need everything shooting every turn, positioning is also important). I'd give one of the vet units 3x Meltas and put them in the Vendetta. This gives you a mobile threat that can wash enemy armor out of the backline as well as some great mobility for snagging late objectives that are far away from your lines.
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut




Long Beach, CA

You only have 60 troops. BAD
Why are you give LC to the executioner. Its an anti infantry vehicle. BAD
What is your intention on taking creed? CONFUSING
Three good shots on each of your tanks and a 3rd of your army is toast. BAD
MOO will draw for fire to your ccs and you have nothing to protect them like cloaks or bodyguards.

This list is terrible.
There is nothing good in it what soever. Some of what you have taken is ok but it will not work together like this.

"Do NOT ask me if you can fire the squad you forgot to shoot once we are in the assault phase, EVER!!!"

 
   
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant




Kansas

All I have is 60 standing troops. I know, I need more, but I'm working on more tanks first. Plus, in a full Veteran list like this, 60 troops is all you can put down.

Other than that, I revised the list in such a way to heed your advice, or further explain things..


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