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 Kanluwen wrote:
Knights on bikes are stupid and should be treated as such. This is supposed to be the frigging elite counterterrorism group and it's getting a Knight on Bike shoved in.

Ah, but what happens when the terrorists are on motorbikes?

Montesa Knights have never been mentioned with Varuna and they've never been mentioned to have anything to do with bikes or other nonsense.

Well, they currently mech deploy. We've always assumed they come in via an APC/IFV (that disappears?) or a dropped in via dropship; but maybe they've ridden bikes in all along and left them propped against a wall somewhere? The recent proliferation of bikers in other factions has led the Montesa Elders to realise "hey, we can actually shoot whilst riding these things!"

 Riquende wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Knights on bikes are stupid and should be treated as such. This is supposed to be the frigging elite counterterrorism group and it's getting a Knight on Bike shoved in.

Ah, but what happens when the terrorists are on motorbikes?

Then you call in gunships. Or you use remotes with guided missiles, snipers emplaced along escape routes, mine dispersal units(SPOILER: This was intended to be a PanO piece for Bolts back in the day), and AD units to deal with them.

Montesa Knights have never been mentioned with Varuna and they've never been mentioned to have anything to do with bikes or other nonsense.

Well, they currently mech deploy. We've always assumed they come in via an APC/IFV (that disappears?) or a dropped in via dropship; but maybe they've ridden bikes in all along and left them propped against a wall somewhere? The recent proliferation of bikers in other factions has led the Montesa Elders to realise "hey, we can actually shoot whilst riding these things!"

No. It's stupid in Varuna. End of fricking story.

 Kanluwen wrote:

No. It's stupid in Varuna. End of fricking story.

Well, you make a compelling argument. Pop it on a postcard and send it CB's way.


As for your anti-bike overkill methods, lots of towns in the UK recently have been hit by a spate of muggers and thieves riding dirt cheap scrambler bikes as they are small and nimble enough to get through pedestrian accessways, go off road etc. Police were really struggling to use convential pursuit methods and an officer I know confided to me that most forces were ignoring pursuit calls as they would end up endangering surrounding civilians. It took a while, but lots of the local forces have retrained officers to ride the same sort of bikes when needed and (around here at least) the news stories have subsided.

Gunships, missiles, snipers and mining your own roads! The obvious solutions are always the ones we miss. I'll head to the next PCC meeting and see if the local constabulary have room in their budget.

 Riquende wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

No. It's stupid in Varuna. End of fricking story.

Well, you make a compelling argument. Pop it on a postcard and send it CB's way.


As for your anti-bike overkill methods, lots of towns in the UK recently have been hit by a spate of muggers and thieves riding dirt cheap scrambler bikes as they are small and nimble enough to get through pedestrian accessways, go off road etc. Police were really struggling to use convential pursuit methods and an officer I know confided to me that most forces were ignoring pursuit calls as they would end up endangering surrounding civilians. It took a while, but lots of the local forces have retrained officers to ride the same sort of bikes when needed and (around here at least) the news stories have subsided.

Considering the "terrorists" in question for Varuna have huge tails and dwell at depths in the ocean? I don't think the bikes are really going to be an issue.

Gunships, missiles, snipers and mining your own roads! The obvious solutions are always the ones we miss. I'll head to the next PCC meeting and see if the local constabulary have room in their budget.

If things are getting bad enough to the point that a group called the fricking "Snake-Eaters", specialized in counterterrorism operations and guerilla warfare are being called in...yeah, you'll have those things available and likely they'll be necessary.

Additionally, since you just flatout admitted on the Infinity forums that you're attempting to troll here: welcome to ignore.

Knights on Bikes makes sense. A noble knight needs a noble 'steed'.

Frankly I'm surprised its taken this long to get a knight on a bike.

 Grey Templar wrote:
Knights on Bikes makes sense. A noble knight needs a noble 'steed'.

Frankly I'm surprised its taken this long to get a knight on a bike.

Nobody's refuting Knights on Bikes.

I'm personally refuting Knights on Bikes as part of the Varunan Sectorial. This would have been a great surprise addition to Military Orders, not an elite counterterrorist group that previously has had no mention whatsoever of Knights or Military Orders forces in general.

Clearly it should have been knights on jetskis!
Now that's a vehicle fitting counterterrorism

 Riquende wrote:
And lastly but definitely not least, Knights of Montesa have motorbikes now. I'd assume they are losing Mech Deploy...

Do you have a source for this? It sounds ill-conceived for a Unit with Mech Deploy, which is their whole raison d'etre , so it is not likely that they will lose it. Will the Montesa get a lance as a ccw to joust with? Or the aforementioned jetski and special skill: aquatic terrain, since Varuna is a waterworld. ( So is Earth, BTW.)

 Red Harvest wrote:

 Riquende wrote:
And lastly but definitely not least, Knights of Montesa have motorbikes now. I'd assume they are losing Mech Deploy...

Do you have a source for this? It sounds ill-conceived for a Unit with Mech Deploy, which is their whole raison d'etre , so it is not likely that they will lose it. Will the Montesa get a lance as a ccw to joust with? Or the aforementioned jetski and special skill: aquatic terrain, since Varuna is a waterworld. ( So is Earth, BTW.)

There's an article in Game Trade Magazine that got posted up on Facebook today.

It talks about the fact that Knights of Montesa have been "reinvented" to have motorcycles. No idea why but it is. They also talk about how Kamau are effectively going to be the Veteran Kazaks of this list, with the ability to join any link team. Orcs are able to join Fusiliers. There's a named Orc character. There's some more but the picture is blurry and I don't feel like grabbing it to rehost when it would still be blurry.

It's pretty much confirmed, there's an article in the new ITS magazine where Guillermo talks about some of the things Varuna is getting, Infinity Facebook group had some really bad cell phone images of the article you could barely read, but it talks about knight-motorcycles.

I think HI on bikes is awesome, total bubblegum crisis/MOSPEADA in all the best ways

 Kanluwen wrote:
Knights on bikes are stupid and should be treated as such. This is supposed to be the frigging elite counterterrorism group and it's getting a Knight on Bike shoved in.

Not to mention that it's smacking of an attempt to reuse assets and unreleased items now. Montesa Knights have never been mentioned with Varuna and they've never been mentioned to have anything to do with bikes or other nonsense. There's a whole Equestrian Order which would have fit better.

This. This this this this this.

"You've heard of Elf on a Shelf, now get ready for..."

This is dumb.

 Red Harvest wrote:

 Riquende wrote:
And lastly but definitely not least, Knights of Montesa have motorbikes now. I'd assume they are losing Mech Deploy...

Do you have a source for this? It sounds ill-conceived for a Unit with Mech Deploy, which is their whole raison d'etre , so it is not likely that they will lose it. Will the Montesa get a lance as a ccw to joust with? Or the aforementioned jetski and special skill: aquatic terrain, since Varuna is a waterworld. ( So is Earth, BTW.)

I think Montesas will have a choice between mech deployment and a motorbike.

Are there any pictures of Varuna's 'landscape'? I've always assumed it to be like Kamino in Star Wars, urban cities floating or on supports above the seas.

Page 4 of the original Infinity artbook.

RPG book has good descriptions of each varuna island + the floating cities, the place has a decent amount of variation, mostly beaches with huge hotel chains, rainy port and farming cities, and huge seas of algae. The floating cities move around alot, the helots+ateks have one they run themselves.

Akuna bay- capital full of hotels and beaches, south is full of huge ports for dealing with cargo

deepwater- town with the space elevator, constantly covered in storms from elevators constant movement and varunas atmosphere

neo canberra- city that really loves sports

gurindam archapeligo- cold area not popular with tourists full of large mining towns damak and hujan. Pulau island is where they develop military tech, cutters are from here. syurga is a mining town in near constant rain

Hawaiki archipelago- known for food, fishing and low flat lands covered in crops and has large maglev networks, has an importan medical complex

kumari- known for pretty lanscapes, has a floating city that ran aground

Lemuria archipelago- on the equator covered in algae used in the factories, foster beach is here known for surfers and water sports, town is mostly tents. Students of Rylstone a huge biogenic research area blow of steam there, Rylstone works with Lhost tech, Wave port is known for medical stuff, and also has noahtown which is the planets major ship repair yard.

Id kinda prefer the knight bikes to be hover bikes, makes sense in the area (the water sports industry on varuna likely would support there being some companies making them) and would even be useful in jungle areas (just fly over the trees to get to places faster, or just be like the imperial scouts in star wars)

 Mothman wrote:

Id kinda prefer the knight bikes to be hover bikes, makes sense in the area (the water sports industry on varuna likely would support there being some companies making them)

Hover tch doesn't work over water, have you nevere watched Back tot he Future 2?

I would accept them just being on jet skis and AD is just them doing a sick jump over some buildings and then crashing on the battlefield...

A jump over some buildings? Naw. A jump over a shartk!

It ought to be a nice looking mini.

What is this?

 BrotherGecko wrote:
What is this?

The new Infinity the Game expansion?

I guess we'll find out more on Oct 15 - or slightly before...

Is that a Shasvastii?

Looks to be.

One thing you can say about CB this year, they finally figured out what they wanted to do for books and have got their act together to get 2 out this year.

It’s the Pneumarch of the Ur Hegemony, isn’t it?

Surprise Shas and Ur are the same!

Honestly though why have the official art them being green while the mini is white/metal?

 Absolutionis wrote:

Ok what's in this? When's it out?
Will this have Varuna, IA, & Shas?

I hope they're not going to do 2 books every year. While I'd love to see more art the writing is awfully tedious.

1) Should really spoiler tag a pic pic that we've already seen

2) We don't know what's in it, or when it will ship - just the pre-order period

Looks to be a late November to mid-December shipping date.

It'll contain all the background and relevant info on the remaining sectorials-- Tunguska, TAK, Vedic and Varuna. It will also explain the fate of the ASA-- obliterated in the third Paradiso offensive. It will have a nice LE mini.

It maybe Campaign Paradiso N3. Meaning that we'll get the updated campaign rules, including those for the Spec Ops.

The LE mini will not be Raoul Spector. Koni confirmed this.

#YearOfTheAlien

This, I believe, is the big N on the calendar which was supposed to really shake things up, so I can only assue it's a Caskuda sectorial.