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The show seems equally gender blind in it mean spirited nature… but for Mrs. GG and I the petty, mean spirited nature of so many of the characters takes it right out of the MCU for us. We feel like we just do not get the show so far but there are a few decent scenes here and there, like with the demons and Wong. Wong Forever!

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My wife, daughters (13 & 11), and myself are watching it together, and for any other D+ show we've watched there's always been excitement when a new episode is available. The last 3 Thursdays when I say, "New She-Hulk tonight," both of my kids say, "Oh, I forgot that was tonight."

It's not exciting. It's not an event. It's just kind of there.
   
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The show is as I've been saying since the start: It's a comedy that isn't funny. Big Bang gave me more laughs than this show, and that show as constantly ridiculing its protagonists.

 Lance845 wrote:
You are forgetting both her current boss, who is at least neutral, and Pug. And Bruce. And her Dad. And Wong. And maybe Abomination?
Current boss? Disinterested corporate guy who cares nothing about Jen other than what her name brings to the firm. Pug? He was doing well until they make him an obsessive sneakerhead. It's fine to have hobbies, it's another to have the show look down on you for having them. Bruce is a hero, and not really part of the show. Wong broke several laws and then absconded when called on it. Abom? Tricked a bunch of women into becoming his "soul mates" in an effort to appear rehabilitated and abandoned them the seconde he was out.

Meanwhile you've got Jen's old boss, who wouldn't talk to her unless he was (literally) smaller than him. Jen's old co-worker who referred to a beautiful woman as an "it", aside from other comically bad exaggerations, a bunch of groomsmen busy playing video games at a wedding and ruining their jackets, a man who has literally abandoned a dozen women (and one man!), a family full of idiots (including the brother, who of course was used as example of "mansplaining"), a host of awful/creepy first dates guys, a weird super-cliche clothes designer, the off-brand Wrecking Crew, a website full of "crying manbabies" that is apparently a pastiche of 4chan (I presume), and finally the latest guy, who I'm sure will be a bad guy.

Even her dad, who is supportive, isn't shown to be particularly competent, just enthusiastic.

Add that to the pre-emptive defence the show has taken within the universe of the show to every criticism of She-Hulk (always completely removed of context, just like every defence of the actual show I've ever seen), and you have a show that has been gaking on men since it's first episode, some in subtle ways, some in hammer-over-the-fething-head ways.

But hey, maybe DD will break the spell? *shrugs*

Voss wrote:
This isn't a 'blar, men bad' show.
Could'a fooled me, especially after the most recent episode.


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Her boss. Who complimented her winning strategy and how she was beating them in the opening case and then didnt just offer her a job, but made her in charge of an entire division.

Pug, who has never been anything but straight with all the characters in the show. A stand up person.

Bruce, who did what he could to help and offered his support whenever she needed it.

Wong, a hero who gladly offered his service to set Aboms record straight and doesn't know or care about 1 countries laws when he protects the entire dimension as sorcerer supreme.

Abom, who didn't trick anyone and didn't abandon anyone. Where are you getting that from?

Her dad, who again, has never been anything but supportive. When did any of these characters be anything other than decent people?

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 Lance845 wrote:

Abom, who didn't trick anyone and didn't abandon anyone. Where are you getting that from?


During the concept art credits we see Abom taking a bus to get away from his pen pals. I assume that's what they're referring to here?
   
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 LunarSol wrote:
 Lance845 wrote:

Abom, who didn't trick anyone and didn't abandon anyone. Where are you getting that from?


During the concept art credits we see Abom taking a bus to get away from his pen pals. I assume that's what they're referring to here?


You mean how the maximum security prison was transporting their prisoner. You don't go from the hearing to walking out the door. Paper work and other gak needs to be done before he is released and his soul mates don't get to get on a prison transport with him.

Thats a big assumption.

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 Lance845 wrote:

Thats a big assumption.


The internet has basically boiled down to taking single frames of anything and writing 8 paragraph analysis of them and having seen the article on this one specifically, I suspect its where they got the notion.

The worst part is now a bunch of people take that as cannon and are going to be mad when it wasn't actually a hint at some master plan for a future Abomination appearance.
   
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I watched Thor: Love and Thunder and put my thoughts up in the mini-movie review thread for those that are interested. I did not want to de-rail the TV thread.

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 LunarSol wrote:
 Lance845 wrote:

Thats a big assumption.


The internet has basically boiled down to taking single frames of anything and writing 8 paragraph analysis of them and having seen the article on this one specifically, I suspect its where they got the notion.

The worst part is now a bunch of people take that as cannon and are going to be mad when it wasn't actually a hint at some master plan for a future Abomination appearance.


I mean... we already know he has more appearances in the show. We see Jen sitting in a circle with other powered people at Abominations retreat. My assumption is this week Titania will play up She-Hulk beating her up and get her sent to a super hero version of "Anger Management" at Abominations group therapy or whatever. At which point we will see not just him but his 7 soul mates as the staff around the property.


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Just a random thought, but shouldn't Jen have registered by now with the government due to the Sokovia Accords?
   
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 bbb wrote:
Just a random thought, but shouldn't Jen have registered by now with the government due to the Sokovia Accords?


Sokovia Accords isn't a government registration. Sokovia Accords handles international relations with super powered individuals. Spiderman isn't held to the Sokovia Accords in Homecoming because Spiderman is acting on US soil as a US enhanced individual. In Far From Home he is working for shield. So Shield is stepping in for him to get that covered.

The Avengers were a US based enhanced group who crossed international boarders and acted without any international oversight. Sokovia Accords was about creating UN based legislation for what was and was not allowed and how it would be penalized moving forward.


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Hmm... then I guess Ms. Marvel violated them by going to Pakistan and doing superhero stuff.

I get that She-Hulk is supposed to be a comedy, but it's a weird tonal shift going from Ms. Marvel with Damage Control going after her, Wandavision with SWORD trying to take down Wanda, and then to She-Hulk with no governmental group interested in her at all.
   
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Well, Jen hasn’t really done much in the way of super heroics.

She’s defended a court room against Titania, who acted as an aggressor, and defended herself against the idiot in the wrecking crew and Titania, both cases where the other party acted as the aggressor.

Plus. Jen is a US Citizen (unlike Wanda), a grown adult (unlike Kamala)….and most of all? A lawyer, so not someone tried to infringe upon the rights of lightly.

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 bbb wrote:
Hmm... then I guess Ms. Marvel violated them by going to Pakistan and doing superhero stuff.

I get that She-Hulk is supposed to be a comedy, but it's a weird tonal shift going from Ms. Marvel with Damage Control going after her, Wandavision with SWORD trying to take down Wanda, and then to She-Hulk with no governmental group interested in her at all.


You need to put it into context of what the powered people have done.

Wanda broke into a Sword installation looking for the Visions remains then created the Hex and took over an entire town. Meanwhile Sword was interested in her because they couldn't figure out how to turn the vision back on but Wanda was known to have a connection with the Mind Stone that maybe powered him?

Damage Control was looking for Ms Marvel because her powers were displayed very publicly causing a bunch of damage and risking lives. In all likelihood when they first cornered her in that ally, if she had come along peacefully, they would have just interviewed her to find out who she was, what she was doing, and give her some warning about the potential damage she can cause and the consequences there of. Damage Control only really escalated into violent actions when one of their members went rogue and sent in soldiers to a place they were specifically told to stay out of. IF any authorities could identify Kamala as acting over seas then maybe the Sokovia accords would apply. But 1) What relationship does Pakistan have with the UN and did they sign the Accords? 2) what damage was caused by her in Pakistan? 3) did any authorities manage to trace anything that happened there to her and identify her as a US citizen?

Jen... 1) Is publicly known who she is. 2) hasn't broken any laws or caused any damage. 3) can be spoken to at any time if Damage Control has any questions.


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I really liked the 7th episode except the ending.
Spoiler:
Why couldn't they resist to make a truly nice guy a villain instead of well... allow him to stay a nice guy, for a change?
   
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While the show continues to fail at being a "legal comedy", or even just a comedy in general, this episode was wildly entertaining and had some real pathos to it. Using Blonsky and his group of Z-list super villains as a way of working through her anxiety and identity issues was a clever choice. The inclusion of cut-price Wrecker was also a nice touch.

Even better: It was a complete story, with a beginning, middle and end. It was paced well. It didn't suddenly stop at the end of an act-break like so many other D+ shows. And whilst the 17 and a half minutes of credits remains endlessly annoying (across all D+ productions), when they finally did start it didn't feel jarring or like we were missing a reel. Well done show!

Pity Josh turned out to be exactly what we thought he'd be...

 Shadow Walker wrote:
I really liked the 7th episode except the ending.
Spoiler:
Why couldn't they resist to make a truly nice guy a villain instead of well... allow him to stay a nice guy, for a change?
That wouldn't be in keeping with the show's general themes at all.


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I just watched the first 6 episodes of She Hulk and frankly I don't get why the public of Rotten Tomato is so harsh on it. Maybe it's because of some die hard fan of the comic book character (who I wouldn't except to have significant dedicated fanbase). The show is of course ridiculous, but it's title is literally "She-Hulk attorney at law" which cannot be taken seriously. For the little appearance of the character in comic books I have read, she is indeed a "joke character" mostly used for sex jokes and legal jokes to allow heroes and villains to do all sort of stupid stuff which is kinda true to form in the show so far. It's not hilarious, but it's kinda funny, short and reasonably well acted though the special effects are pretty bad. I think I like it more than the Hawkeye and WandaVision series though it's a far cry from the excellent Loki.

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I think the problem with She Hulk is the same problem a lot of comics have.

Fans have been trained to look at the larger universe and once they realize that nothing that happens in 'Lite Humor Cute Book' is going to factor into the next cross over they stop reading it. Even if Lite Humor Cute Book is entertaining.

The second problem is that humor is not all that funny (as HBMS said). I thought Abomination's therapy group was mildly amusing but as usual it was just broad cliches and ha-ha new age therapy but with super villains. Ha. Oh my sides.

 
   
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 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
I think the problem with She Hulk is the same problem a lot of comics have.

Fans have been trained to look at the larger universe and once they realize that nothing that happens in 'Lite Humor Cute Book' is going to factor into the next cross over they stop reading it. Even if Lite Humor Cute Book is entertaining.

The second problem is that humor is not all that funny (as HBMS said). I thought Abomination's therapy group was mildly amusing but as usual it was just broad cliches and ha-ha new age therapy but with super villains. Ha. Oh my sides.


Frankly the only scene that I actually thought were funny were the terrible dating scenes and Titania's general character, the others were not good, but they didn't annoy me either. In general, I like the pacing of the show as it doesn't get tedious when it's not good which is a pretty interesting trait.
   
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Armor Wars is going from a series to a feature film:

https://www.syfy.com/syfy-wire/armor-wars-marvel-disney-series-with-don-cheadle-will-be-a-film

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defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

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We'll see if it's a better call than a TV series, though hopefully this forces it to have better pacing with regards to setting up the conflict in the story.
   
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Hmmm... I was hoping armor wars would feature a bunch of characters (Titanium Man, Crimson Dynamo, Dr Doom). I wonder how much they can actually fit into a movie. But, if its the correct format, then go for it.


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 Lance845 wrote:
Hmmm... I was hoping armor wars would feature a bunch of characters (Titanium Man, Crimson Dynamo, Dr Doom). I wonder how much they can actually fit into a movie. But, if its the correct format, then go for it.

There will be riots if Stilt-Man doesn’t make the cut for the film...

'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

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 Ghaz wrote:
 Lance845 wrote:
Hmmm... I was hoping armor wars would feature a bunch of characters (Titanium Man, Crimson Dynamo, Dr Doom). I wonder how much they can actually fit into a movie. But, if its the correct format, then go for it.

There will be riots if Stilt-Man doesn’t make the cut for the film...


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We enjoyed the last She Hulk episode. Got some actual laughs from Man-bill and Aguila (and one from Saracen). The obvious bad guy ghosting her felt a little too drawn out, but I suppose that helps put her in a headspace to join the retreat. If the next guy she dates turns out to be a jerk, it’s going to get tiresome.

   
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Fun episode. Good character dynamics. Hoping to see more from this crew later.
   
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Take this one with an Air Force One-sized grain of salt :

Marvel Reportedly Wanted to Announce Harrison Ford as General "Thunderbolt" Ross at D23 Expo, But Kathleen Kennedy Said No via Geek Tyrant

During Marvel Studios’ big presentation at D23 Expo, they officially announced that cast of its Thunderbolts movie, and apparently, Harrison Ford was supposed to be included in that announcement. He’s reportedly been cast in the role of General Thaddeus "Thunderbolt" Ross and will replace the late William Hurt, who previously played the character.

So, why wasn’t Ford included in the cast line-up at the event? According to The Ankler insider Jeff Sneider, Lucasfilm President Kathleen Kennedy put her foot down and said no. She did want the announcement to take attention away from Indiana Jones 5.

https://www.cbr.com/harrison-ford-marvel-top-choice-thunderbolts-general-ross-mcu/

https://screenrant.com/marvels-thunderbolts-harrison-ford-role-general-ross/

https://www.screengeek.net/2022/09/30/harrison-ford-mcu-role-rumor/

https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/ent/harrison-ford-marvel.html

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I don't remember General Ross being a tired and uninterested character.
   
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 bbb wrote:
I don't remember General Ross being a tired and uninterested character.


Shots fired first!

   
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I predict this week is Dare Devil. The bar scene from the previews where he gives his you have 2 ways to help people will be towards the end of the episode. It will be the call to action for the finale.


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