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What would you all think would be better mark of nurgle or tzentch on 19 marines to take bullets for abbadon

the nurgle for small arms fire or the tzentch for those plasma cannons?

Mmmm tough question the only thing that i could see is HtH being the deciding factor. Normally you have a few power weapons in a squad not a whole squad. I would have to say plagues cause usually there isnt that much that takes out power armor. But i could be wrong.

in ard boyz the 10-15 plasma guns and or laz cannons in armies?

I'd take a unit of Terminator Champions with the icon of Nurgle.
Tough as nails and hard hitting.

but nurgle termies don have feel no pain so they would still die hard to plasma or melta

Plauge marines die to plasma and meltas easier than termies becasue they don't have a 5++ save. Feel no Pain is good, but it is easily negated, anything AP 3 or lower will negate it. At least with the termies they might survive.

Well a 5 man chosen with melta's, get outa landraider and eat a squad with the melta and then charge.

anything AP 3 or lower will negate it.

I'm pretty sure it's only ap 1 and 2. If it's ap 3 you still get your FNP.

A squad of obliterators! So he can't be chased off the board and is unlikely to lose combat.

And if anyone shoots you, you can put the S8+ hits on Abaddon and his T5 Eternal Warrior rather than the oblits. And there's nothing they can't kill in cc!

I'm only half-joking. Honestly I feel a bodyguard of obliterators would be way more effective than most terminator squads, if only for the elimination of any possibility of them running away. I HATE that Abaddon can't have a bodyguard of fearless terminators.

"anything AP 3 or lower will negate it."

Ap 2 or lower or anything double you're base toughness negates FNP.

I've known many who've run Abaddon and then stopped, but ultimately they've all said that Tzeentch Termis are the way to go.

Tzeentch Termies.

Termies aren't fearless.

One bad round of daemon weapon fail, and you could be trying to roll a 5 or a 4 on two dice to avoid a wipeout or fallback off the board for your 600+ point squad.

Abby can kill pretty much anything he gets into HtH with by himself. He needs fearless, ablative wounds for backup. So that means cult marines or possessed.

Never put Abbadon with a non-Fearless unit. Spellbound's suggestion of Obliterators is a good one, although Abbadon is wasted at shooting, where the Obliterators are most valuable, and conversely the Obliterators will be wasted in close combat where Abbadon is most valuable.

I suggest putting him in a unit of Possessed with either an Icon of Nurgle or an Icon of Slaanesh. They're Fearless, so Abaddon won't run away if they suffer a bad Morale check. They have an Iv5+, S5, and Abbadon will make up for their weakness against Walkers, while they'll be able to cushion him when he rolls a 1 for his Daemon Weapon.

i like the possesed suggestion really i have never found much use for them but as a guard that is very possible thanks-

Also you can fit 8 possessed into a land raider with Abbadon, versus only 4 terminators.

And possessed fit in with the Black Legion fluff.

meh doesnt matter now my semi finals ard boyz list has 14 laz cannons nine of which second as plasma cannons/multimelta/plasma guns/flamers haha with 50 marines 10 berxerkers a dp of slanaash and 3 ccw dreadnoughts... with that im not scared of tanks or horde orc for that matter

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