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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/09 22:13:12
Subject: Briton Warlords: Orks 500pnts Side
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Lesser Daemon of Chaos
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Briton Warlords, this will be the second tournament i have attended in my life, im playing with a friend who plays chaos, so im the screaming maniac
Running towards the gun line, while the chaos are the screaming maniacs at the back shooting and covering my back:
My List:
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500 Torny List-Orks.rar |
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Need word 2003 for this file |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/09 22:30:58
Subject: Re:Briton Warlords: Orks 500pnts Side
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Regular Dakkanaut
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A downloadable 500 point list. Why not just write it out. You will get more responses that way.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/09 22:32:07
Subject: Re:Briton Warlords: Orks 500pnts Side
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Sneaky Kommando
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im not the most experienced player but what i do know is that 5th edition has A LOT of mech armies and you will ned PK's to really deal with them
Rokkits on deffkoptaz sounds like a solution but i think there fragile and will miss everytime you dont need them to
if your planning on being the assualting force than be the assualting force, i say lose the big shoota's, if you plan on assualting they should have sluggas and choppaz and maybe a rokkit or 2 if you have leftover points (they wont hit often but when it does hit it hurts)
At 500 points i break my boyz up so they all fit in trukks and have a KFF covering them all, your boyz will get to the line fast although i have no idea what your chaos friend is bringing i do know that when you have orks in your frontyard your distracted from the enemy far away for the time being.
From what i learned, pick something you want your Orks to do and stick with it, if you want to Assault then you dont need lootaz and if your shooty you can swap all your Boyz sluggas for shootas and so on and so forth
OH and i thought you had to be 500 points or below? some people would let you get away with 502 but some people are pretty 'ard core so beware of that
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2009/07/09 22:47:18
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/09 22:57:50
Subject: Re:Briton Warlords: Orks 500pnts Side
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Don't bother with rokkits and big shootas in the assault squad. They will just slow you down. Better to just run and assault than stop and shoot with a choppy ork squad. Also they made Kans for shootin. I'd say drop the deffkoptas and pick up some killakan. They shoot straighter and live longer in my experience. PKs are a good redundant tank killer though, and it will be hard to get the PK nob off the table if it's burried under a ton of boyz. It's probably worth spending the points to get those.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/10 16:42:14
Subject: Re:Briton Warlords: Orks 500pnts Side
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Lesser Daemon of Chaos
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To satisfy all comments(except phillosmaster, i hate killakans): Warboss (60) Power Klaw (25), Shoota/Rokkit Kombi Weapon (5), Ammo Runt (3), ‘Eavy Armour (5), = 98 17 Ork boyz (102) Ork Nob (16) Big Choppa (5) (Nob) =133 17 Ork boyz (102) Ork Nob (16) Big Choppa (5) (Nob) =133 3 Deffkoptas (105) Twin Linked Rokkit Launchas (10 per Deffkopta) =135 Total = 499
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This message was edited 7 times. Last update was at 2009/07/11 16:01:55
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/10 19:25:43
Subject: Re:Briton Warlords: Orks 500pnts Side
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Sneaky Kommando
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Let us know how that plays out, personally i never have a Nob without a PK you just cant rely on rokkits hitting the broad side of a barn.
That being said if you really want a kombi weapon on your warboss i would advise a shoota/scorcha, you only have ONE shot with that 2nd weapon, at least the skorcha lets you drop a template so you KNOW you hit something (even more than 1 model with a flame template)
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They say the Emperor protects; tell that to the Orks. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/10 23:19:35
Subject: Re:Briton Warlords: Orks 500pnts Side
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Regular Dakkanaut
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You hate kans? I guess we come from two different worlds cuz I run a kan/deff dread army. With the grot BS it's your best hope of hitting with rokkits, and they are well suited to the foot infantry army you are posting. I'm with NeedsMoreDakka. I've never placed a nob with the boyz unless he had a PK, but I'm not gonna pretend that my way is the best way. I just like that Anti-tank/anti-MEQ option better than ork launched rokkit, who never seem to hit when you want em to with their BS of 2.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/11 05:36:36
Subject: Re:Briton Warlords: Orks 500pnts Side
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Sneaky Kommando
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If you break it down i think the choice is quite simple
PK - No range, but on a Nob who has 3 Attacks swinging a Str10 power weapon with 4 WS...something is going to die (4 attacks on the charge  )
Rokkit boy - 18" of range to shoot once (poorly) with a Str 8 weapon that when you DO shoot it prevents the rest of your unit from running up to an extra 6" so they can clobber them with the PK you wish you had
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/11 06:59:57
Subject: Re:Briton Warlords: Orks 500pnts Side
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Lesser Daemon of Chaos
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Now that i look at my codex and models again, i have room for the one shot saver model - ammo runt
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/11 08:13:17
Subject: Briton Warlords: Orks 500pnts Side
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Yellin' Yoof on a Scooter
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I myself love the cans. I usually run them with grotzookas which are awesome. Seriously you might want to rethink your approach to the cans  However I guess you could leave it this way although the rokkits will have a hard time hitting (luckily they are twin linked but still they're not going to pwn). I would advise you to split them into 3 squads. Better target selection, more manueverability, they are harder to be shot down.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/11 13:13:46
Subject: Re:Briton Warlords: Orks 500pnts Side
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Lesser Daemon of Chaos
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My maths has failed me, so goodbye attack squig and ammo runt, hello TL shoota
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/11 14:54:15
Subject: Briton Warlords: Orks 500pnts Side
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I agree with the others comments regarding Power Klaws and at only 17 boys per mob your troops will die FAST. But i don't want to beat this horse anymore so on to new constructive critique:
Deffkoptas. If you insist on running 3 Deffkoptas in your 500 pt list (A folly IMHO, I would reduce it to 1 or at least 2) Then at least break up the unit into 3 different mobs of 1 Kopta. There are a number of reasons for this as I'll explain (Or I should say repeat, I really need to macro this following tutorial. [ okay, i did cut and paste my advice from another thread  ] )
Deffkoptas are decent one-trick ponies but split them up. Fielding them as one unit begs for death. If one dies you're also making morale saves on Ld. 7. There are a number of advantages to breaking them up:
1. As 3 different units they can acquire 3 different targets (great for mech vet to crack open chimeras before they move).
2. As 3 different units if you try to outflank you tripple your chances of a kopta coming on the board earlier.
3. The morale issue stated above. As a unit of 1 if 1 dies you don;t have to worry about morale.
4. more for the enemy to shoot (split fire). one squad of marines can take out one unit of 3 deffkoptas. However, one squad of marines can't take out 3 units of one deffkoptas (it would be splitting their fire). This makes it more of a challange for the enemy in target aquisition - do they take out hte piddly little kopta threatening side armor of the pred or shoot at the boys to whittle them down a little before they charge.
That's my food for thought.
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Current Armies:
Warmachine:
Shae Pirate's Life 50
Durgen attrition 50
WH40K:
Orks (5,000 pt Apoc Kan Wall, 1850 Bikerz)
Grey Knights (1850 Crowe Purifiers, 2500 'Ard Boyz Draigo)
Sisters of Battle (Seraphim spam)
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3000 Tomb Kings |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/11 15:59:30
Subject: Re:Briton Warlords: Orks 500pnts Side
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Lesser Daemon of Chaos
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nice idea,but the torny rules state that the team has to have 1 heavy 1 fast and 1 Elite before having a second of any of them also the list is modifyed so it is 499 points instead
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/11 16:41:02
Subject: Re:Briton Warlords: Orks 500pnts Side
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Regular Dakkanaut
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How about you shrink to 1 deffkopta and replace the other two koptas with trucks for the boyz with a rokkit launcher mount. You keep the rokkits, and you lose the weakness of the 3 deffkopta squad. After dismounting the boyz the truck could even go after a separate target. Shrink the boyz down to 12 (so they can ride) and delete the nob from the boyz on the warboss truck and give the other squad's nob a PK and bosspole. Spend the extra points to tool up the trucks (boarding plank, reinforced ram, wrecking ball). This build would probably benefit from a KFF more than a PK warboss though.
Another idea is to replace two deffkoptas with a Kannon team or Zapp gun team as a heavy choice. I think you'll find they will be more effective against armor than the deffkoptas. Though this idea is weak against outflanking/deep striking.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/11 21:11:40
Subject: Briton Warlords: Orks 500pnts Side
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Battlefield Professional
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I concur with replacing a kopta or 2 with Kannon but really you should get more boys.
3 Koptas are going to cost you a LOT of points when they die and are almost certain not to make up their points at 500 pts. At best the three can kill 3 marines which will take out the entire squad in one round of shooting. The three Koptas are really a bad idea any way you look at it.
With those restrictions I strongly advise getting rid of 2 and bolstering your boy mobs. Use the 1 kopter to try and outflank and vehicle hunt, especially since at 500 pts. and those tourney restrictions the enemy will only have 1 vehicle, unless they are transports.
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Current Armies:
Warmachine:
Shae Pirate's Life 50
Durgen attrition 50
WH40K:
Orks (5,000 pt Apoc Kan Wall, 1850 Bikerz)
Grey Knights (1850 Crowe Purifiers, 2500 'Ard Boyz Draigo)
Sisters of Battle (Seraphim spam)
WHFB:
2400 Empire
3000 Tomb Kings |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/12 19:51:08
Subject: Re:Briton Warlords: Orks 500pnts Side
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Lesser Daemon of Chaos
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Well, Here is a list of what ork models i have, i will not spend any more money, because i am saving up for a trip to warhammer world of the 17th of august, right after the tournament:
Orks:
36 Ork Boyz
4 Ork Boyz W/ Big Shooter
10 Ork Nobs:
3 W/ Power Klaw
2 W/ Big Choppa
1 W/ Waaagh! Banner
1 W/ S/R Kombi Weapon
1 Ammo Runt
All W/ ‘Eavy Armour
3 W/ Nothing but the basics and ‘Eavy Armour
2 War bosses:
1 Black Reach (Power Klaw, TL Shoota, Eavy Armour, Boss pole)
1 Black Reach W/ S/R Kombi Weapon and Attack Squig
3 Deffkoptas W/ TL Rokkit Launchas
5 Meganobz
So Nothing will be added until after the 17th!!!  to anyone who says: "oh you gotta buy this model because blahblahblah", not trying to insult but im tired of people who tell me to use a model i don't own.
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