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Barpharanges






Limbo

As part of the new roll-out of changes to make the Dakka SwapShop nicer and easier to use, we are introducing the Dakka Swap Shop Painting Services List.

Rather than having individuals/groups periodically posting up new threads, we encourage painting services to post in this thread so that we can have a stable listing of painters. This helps keep Painting Services on the front page, and members looking for painters won't have to dig around the forum backlogs anymore.

That being said, this thread, similar to the Reputable Traders list, will hopefully provide Dakkites a list of reliable Painting Services for those seeking to have their armies/models well painted.

Here's how the Painting Services List will work:

Painting Services -
If you are offering a painting service, please post in this thread to let us know who you are and whatever other pertinent information you need to provide (ie, if you have standard prices/website/alternate contact info, etc). Please keep the information concise. I would recommend posting some (just need a handful, try to keep the image sizes manageable) examples of your painting so that users can get a feel for your abilities.

I will add your names to a list of Painting Services at the end of this post, periodically updating the list with any new services.

Others -
If you have had good experiences with any of these painting services in the past and would like to 'endorse' them, we ask that you post their user names in this thread. Simply post in this thread your name and who you endorse, like this for example (this is made up):

'Jin endorses RiTides'

No other information is needed, although if you would like, you may post the details/scope of the transaction (eg, 1500pt Ork army).

Periodically, I will go through this thread and add your endorsement under the painter's name in the Painting Services List(1st post). This way, users can judge which Painting Services provide good work and service. Note: Endorsements are not intended to suggest one Painting Service is better than an other. They are merely a way to provide testimonials/referrals to others seeking a Painting Service.

A few points though:
* This thread is for listing of Services and positive experiences only. Using Painting Services on DakkaDakka is at your own risk, with the admins and mods being NOT liable for anything that goes wrong. It is NOT their job to try and recover lost goods or money. There will be no 'Negative/Untrustworthy Painting Services".

* This is NOT a discussion thread. Simply post if you are offering painting services, or if you endorse a painter. Any other discussion will be deleted out.

* You may not endorse yourself. If another member does not endorse you, tough luck. You can suggest to them via PM that they endorse you in this thread but it is ultimately up to them whether or not they want to bother. Please DO NOT badger other users into posting into this thread.

* Please only post an endorsement after the transaction has been satisfactorily completed.

* Please wait until a Painting Service has been added to the thread before posting endorsements.

* If you have a low post count, I will delete your post - this is mostly an effort to have you join and become part of the Dakka Community rather than to simply use Dakka as a advertisement medium.

* Only postings from those offering Painting Services will be added - do not post up for someone else. Again, this is more to foster Dakka Community growth than anything else.

* Painters, please limit yourselves to up to 6 pictures, please.


So, Painters, if you wish to advertise your service, please post here! All others, if you are seeking painting services, take a gander here!

If you have any questions regarding this List, please send me a PM (reminder, however, that I will NOT help settle disputes).


Your friendly neighborhood SwapMod,

Jin




Painting Services List

aerethan
Endorsed by:

AlexHeap
Endorsed by:

Bloodhorror
Endorsed by:

Brother SRM
Endorsed by:Spikes

CajunMan550
Endorsed by:

CATACLYSMUS
Endorsed by: Tiumphus, TheAngelofDeath, felixcat

Centurian99
Endorsed by: Vaercathor, Uriels_Flame

ChaosismyAntidrug
Endorsed by:

CptZach
Endorsed by: Timmah

Cyporiean
Endorsed by: Lehnsherr, thehod

DasFluspferd
Endorsed by: furryballer

devinb1690
Endorsed by: 2000 Volts, Vaercathor

dingholio
Endorsed by:

em_en_oh_pee
Endorsed by:

fuegan17
Endorsed by:

GMMStudios
Endorsed by: thehod, 14to9, Warboss Gubbinz

gorgon_locke
Endorsed by: RiTides

Granesh
Endorsed by:

grimbrandt
Endorsed by:

Horst
Endorsed by:

Hulksmash
Endorsed by: Bunker, Dashofpepper, snake-eyes, Vaercathor

Ifalna
Endorsed by: leslie_derek, smurfwedge, Gitsplitta

Imperial Renegade
Endorsed by:

itsonlyme
Endorsed by: Ovechkin8, IASGATG

Izeya82
Endorsed by: Uriels_Flame

J'santai Khan
Endorsed by: ubermosher, wilsmire, neolithic, Widowsbane, Kaotik, 32x

Legacy40k
Endorsed by: felixcat

jetjetex
Endorsed by:

Khargrim
Endorsed by:

Le Grognard
Endorsed by:

lictors_lovemachine
Endorsed by:

Lord of Kaith
Endorsed by:

LunaHound
Endorsed by:

MakeH
Endorsed by:

Mr. Grey
Endorsed by:

MrJody
Endorsed by: Jtaugner

Mr. Malevolent
Endorsed by:

Muggzy
Endorsed by:

Norsehawk
Endorsed by:Spikes

nuclealosaur
Endorsed by:

Optio
Endorsed by:

Orki
Endorsed by:

r3n3g8b0y
Endorsed by:

Rurouni Benshin
Endorsed by: cygnnus


SandSons
Endorsed by: Loricatus Aurora

scipunk
Endorsed by:

slann
Endorsed by: felixcat, RiTides, Iboshi2

Some_Call_Me_Tim?
Endorsed by:

sworth9411
Endorsed by: RiTides, afoulke, Shas'O Dorian, Lt. Coldfire

terryanddeidra
Endorsed by: alarmingrick

Vlad Von Carstien
Endorsed by:

WAAAAGGHH-god
Endorsed by:

wickedcarrot
Endorsed by:

winterdyne
Endorsed by:

Zarkin
Endorsed by:

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Indiana








Brandon Palmer
www.gmmstudios.com
gmmstudios@gmail.com

The one and only full time studio offering high quality minis. Be sure to sign up for the weekly newsletter.

Thanks Jin, good idea.

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Ah , im offering service atm !

here are the pricing and details:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/237992.page#687544

As well as the steps to give you a feel of how i generally paint ( customer can feel free to pick which step to stop at for custom prices )
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/247795.page

Example on how i paint vehicles , and "flesh" on infantries.


I paint very fast and effective especially when working on whole units , as well as decent bases offered. Not to mention good quality paints , and very very good double varnishes.

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Bobkopainting
Bobkopainting@yahoo.com

My style is to bring " Table pop " to your army something that will make someone stop and take a look .

With 2 levels of affordable painting there is something here for everyone .

The best way to contact me is to leave me a PM here . And also ask about my custom built tables .

I am also starting a terrain shop as well for custom built terrain made for your tables at home or at the club . ( photos soon to follow . )

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The Warmonger Club

http://warmongers.ziggyqubert.com/wmbb/index.php  
   
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Fixture of Dakka





Feasting on the souls of unworthy opponents

I'd like to endorse Hulksmash. His painting is as good as any I've ever seen, and significantly easier on the budget than any other painters I've seen.

*EDIT* He hasn't announced himself yet, but here's his gallery: http://hulksmashstudios.webs.com/

He's done quite a bit of painting for the community, he's cheap, and his work is astounding.

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BK Army Painting
Website: http://www.bkarmypainting.com
E-Mail: Bill_Kim99@yahoo.com
Phone: (616)405-4088











"I was not making fun of you personally - I was heaping scorn on an inexcusably silly idea - a practice I shall always follow." - Lt. Colonel Dubois, Starship Troopers

Don't settle for the pewter horde! Visit http://www.bkarmypainting.com and find out how you can have a well-painted army quickly at a reasonable price. 
   
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Home Base: Waconia, MN (Minneapolis)



Hulksmash Studios

Website: http://hulksmashstudios.webs.com/
Email: Hulksmashstudios@yahoo.com









Best Painted (2015 Adepticon 40k Champs)

They Shall Know Fear - Adepticon 40k TT Champion (2012 & 2013) & 40k TT Best Sport (2014), 40k TT Best Tactician (2015 & 2016) 
   
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Rough Rider with Boomstick





Mah Hizzy

Havent got many pics atm but here is a few.

Ragin Cajun Paintin

I have really cheap prices and that is worked out on a customer to customer basis.

Email- loismustdie550@yahoo.com

Phone- 317-513-3192 (If I don't pick up leave your name and details and I'll give you a call back)

Sorry for bad photos I need a better camera.





I'll get some better pics next chance I get Thanks for looking!




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Been Around the Block



Seattle, WA

I was very pleased with the job BK Army Painting did for me.
   
Made in gb
Trollkin Champion





UK

I'm looking to get started taking on some jobs, I'm based in the uk but would be willing to take commissions from outside PM to arrange anything if your interested. Here are some WIP shots as I sold most of my painted stuff off (and no longer have the pics):

wip test piece for my space wolves scheme, working from a white basecoat (something I've not done often):


some free hand on CSM shoulder pads:



You'll have to excuse the god awful mouldline on this model lol I've become much better at removing them now!

Ork warboss I've recently been working on:





Here's a CSM kitbash:


Here's my first attempt at NMM:


I have a (very) rough price list in mind, all prices are negotiable and will depend on amount of work/detail/conversion, number/size of models and the timeframe. Any questions please message me!

Regards,

Grim

~Burn the land and boil the sea you can't take the sky from me~

Available for commissions contact me for details

 
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut





I can recommend Slaan as both a very competent artist/painter and a very easy person to deal with. I get regular updates, I have all the input I need, he will customize any model to specifications and his prices are very good.

 
   
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Khorne Rhino Driver with Destroyer





NJ

Hagan Brothers painting
http://www.haganbrospainting.com/

IMG links were broken and were deleted


Prices are approximate. Basic basing is included. 5% discount on painting if models are bought through us or one of our participating retailers.
call, email or PM for quotes

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way too much
Doom legion 1750
http://fubarlabs.com/
http://breakingzen.blogspot.com/ 
   
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Been Around the Block



Seattle, WA

I had some raptors done by Hulksmash, and they look great.
   
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Fixture of Dakka






Sacramento, CA

Throwing my Hat in the ring,

http://www.Matrix-Studios.com
http://cyporiean.deviantart.com/






If your in the Jacksonville~St. Johns~Flagler~Volusia~Orlando area I'd be happy to meet up with you at an LGS and show you my work in person and do Pick Ups & Drop Offs so that way you don't have to worry about any shipping damages.

Added Nov 2nd

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-Emily Whitehouse| On The Lamb Games
 
   
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Executing Exarch





Santa Clara County

I recommend BK Painting. Click my Deathwing in Sig. Good work.

No madam, 40,000 is the year that this game is set in. Not how much it costs. Though you may have a point. - GW Fulchester
The Gatling Guns have flamethrowers on them because this is 40k - DOW III
 
   
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Crafty Goblin






Have not listed here yet, but here are some things that I have done up in the recent past that I thought you would like to see.


Savage Orc Boar Boyz


Leman Russ Squad


High Elf Dragon Princes

I have openings coming up if you need something painted please let me know.
   
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Storm Trooper with Maglight





Toronto, Ontario

I'd like to endorse hulksmash.

Great work, great price, and he is super easy to work with. I will be having an entire army painted by him.

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I've just create a new website so i figured I'd review my posting here.

www.miniatures.legacystudios.ca is the new website.

I'm a Canadian painter and converter. I am available for both converting and painting services. I take on small projects only. I don't have the time to paint an army. I'd rather focus on doing single models, or in some cases small units. Send me an E-mail via the contact button the website and I'll respond with 24 hours. Let me know what you are interested in having done, your budget and expected completion date and I'll see if I can do it for you.











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Battlefield Professional





New York

There's a new painter in town and his attention to detail, use of various techniques and great use of subdued colors makes him a must for, at the very least, Ork players

Devinb1690 recently painted a Forgeworld Ork Warboss on bike to a fantastic standard. Not only is ever detail finely painted, the entire model has that worn grimey look which can be oh so hard to achieve on freshly painted ork models.

I once heard one of the most important things to paint on an Ork is their skin. Devinb1960 did a wonderful job with the skin tone as well as the highlights. In addition, the eyes are a fierce red which makes the model truly stand out as the ferocious boss it's meant to be.

The model can be seen in Devinb1690's gallery.

In short order I plan to utilize this painter's service once more for a large handful of lootas. His rates may be a little higher than the industry standard ($4 per infantry model) but what you get is a model above tabletop quality with absolutely no flaws, which has been one of my chief concerns with painting services after reading a number of articles about other commissions gone wrong.

If you play Orks, want a very well painted army which looks both natural and fierce, I highly recommend Devinb1690!

-- Rob a.k.a. 2000 Volts

Current Armies:

Warmachine:
Shae Pirate's Life 50
Durgen attrition 50

WH40K:
Orks (5,000 pt Apoc Kan Wall, 1850 Bikerz)
Grey Knights (1850 Crowe Purifiers, 2500 'Ard Boyz Draigo)
Sisters of Battle (Seraphim spam)

WHFB:
2400 Empire
3000 Tomb Kings 
   
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Painting Within the Lines






Charlotte, NC

Hey everyone, I just finished my first full year in business, and biz is booming! I offer multiple levels of detail, with extremely competitive prices. If you would like to inquire about a commission, contact me at cataclysmstudios@yahoo.com. I would love to paint for you, and I provide incentives, as well! Check under "Cataclysmus" on the gallery to see my posted Dakka Images!

Thanks,
Anthony Hoskins,
Cataclysm Studios
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For Commission information, PM or contact me at cataclysmstudio78@gmail.com
 
   
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Boosting Space Marine Biker






Sidney (Home of Nothing), OH. USA

Hey all! I've been doing commision work (painting & conversion) off & on for quite a few years and it's always been something that I have enjoyed! Most of the hired stuff has been local, so I figured it's time to expand! LOL! My pricing depends on the level of detail you are looking for, but tends to run $6 - $8 per infantry ($7-$10 for termie sized stuff), vehicles/monstrous creatures are cost + %25-%50. My painting style tends to be well above table top. The best way to contact me is email - Bigtat2guy@yahoo.com, but I am on Dakka quite regularly also. Give me a discription of what you are looking for, as well as a phone # and I'll get back with you to work out the details. I have an extensive collection of GW minis, so if you would like to see any specific examples of my work, just let me know!

OK! I dropped a few new pics in here! thanks for looking!! They are MUCH bigger in the gallery, if you'd like to take a closer look!

My latest additions to my DA army. Hope you all like them!











Here is a commision piece that I sculpted & painted.

I specialize in inticate, hand-painted extras (unit markings, army badges, etc.)

Thanks for taking a look!

Jason

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WarPaint Miniature Studios is currently accepting select commissions! PM if interested!

http://www.facebook.com/WarPaintMiniatureStudios/

 
   
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Dakka Veteran






I endorse J'santai Khan.

He's done some spectacular work for me for my Space Wolves, Imperial Fists, and some Imperial Guard models. I am a very satisfied customer.

- Craftworld Kai-Thaine
- Task Force Defiance 36
- Sunwolves Great Company
- 4th Company Imperial Fists
- Hive Fleet Scylla - In progress

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Death-Dealing Dark Angels Devastator





Charlotte, NC

ubermosher wrote:I endorse J'santai Khan.

He's done some spectacular work for me for my Space Wolves, Imperial Fists, and some Imperial Guard models. I am a very satisfied customer.


I also endorse J'santai Khan. I have him working on some stuff for me right now he is a great person to work with. I have also seen udermosher and J'santai Khan stuff in person it is top notch work.

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Xenohunter Acolyte with Alacrity





prospero

Hi all,
Just offering my services as a painter for any miniatures 40k, fantasy or lotr. I have won several Games Workshop painting competitions and will paint everything to my highest standards...
I will also be auctioning high quality painted models on ebay, so if there is anything you are after let me know. If you have something in mind but you don't own it yet I'm even willing to purchase it to speed up the process of getting the job done. I haven't posted any images on here but to see my painting standards just look at my gallery entries.
Thanks.

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1000pts 1500pts

 
   
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Sneaky Chameleon Skink





Mississauga, ON

Hey guys and gals!!! I would like to start taking in commission work.

Currently I have Two standard style of painting and that is Above Table Top Quality and Display.

Please have a look at my gallery in order to have a quick glimpse of my work:
Cool Mini or Not

Above Table Top Quality

This style of painting is intended to provide you with a top quality painting for your gaming models. Every technique (blending, Highlights, etc) is used and no small detail is compromised.




Display Pieces

This is reserved for your special characters in your army or that single model that is awaiting your display case. No matter what the case is, I implement every technique I know to achieve the best result I can. From multiple layering to intricate basing, your model will be looked after and made sure it will stick out from the rest.



Brands

I am open to any and all manufacturers of miniature out there. Though I am mostly familiar with Games Workshop, including Forge World, I have branched out and attempted to try many different miniature producers out there to expand my horizon.

If you require me to paint a miniature(s) from a different brand, it would be appreciated if you provide me with a link.

Pricing

PM for pricing and/or click the following link for more detail.

Payment

I only currently accept Paypal as the form of payment.

I require the first half of the payment before the project starts. The second half will be required upon completion of the project and before shipping.

Shipping and Handling

Please click on the following link for more detail.

If interested or have any further questions please send me a PM.

Thanks

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Accepting Commission Work at This Moment
Check out my site or follow the following links: Painting Service List / Cool Mini or Not for more info

Also check items for sale Here

Have a moment....why not check on what I'm working on  
   
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Fixture of Dakka





Moore, Ok.

i'd like to endorse terryanddeidra. the tanks he has pictures of are mine. he does fantastic work. good turn around time and communication.

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Come again some other day
The devil has my ear today
I'll never hear a word you say" Weak and Powerless - APC

 
   
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Numberless Necron Warrior





Orlando, FL

Hello all, this is Devin Bieber aka devinb1690. I've started a affordable painting service here on dakkadakka.com called Imperial Wargames Painting. I've been painting models for nearly a decade and I think it's time to expand my talents to those interested in high/pro quality paintjobs/commissions.

I not only provide painting services but I also do conversions, magnetizing, and make custom bases. I have industrial lathe machines I can use to make circular bases of any size and material- from black plastic to granite. I can make hollow bases for filling w/ water effects and graduated/tapered bases.

As stated above I offer affordable rates, $4 per infantry size models. I have experience on everything from 40k to Fantasy, Orks to Skaven. My particular specialties are Orks, Vampire Counts, Nurgle/Deathguard and more. Feel free to shoot me a PM at any time day or night, I have a small team together to get your miniatures finished fast. I offer pics to you of my progress so you can stay up-to-date.

You may send me your models, built or on sprue, or pay me to purchase a model for you. Nothing is off limits, wether it be GW, FW, or Ultraforge, etc.


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Pauper with Promise




Australia

Hello, my name is Alex and I am currently looking to fill my christmas period with commission work i paint at above average tabletop and VERY cheap prices due to the fact i love to paint and i cant charge for the time i invest, i do Magnetizing, Converting, *Mediocre Greenstuffing*, Gap Filling, Mould Line Removal, Assembly, Priming, Painting.

Prices are as below, view my gallery for images of my work and remember im using a Camera Phone quality isnt the best.

Mold Line Removal + Assembly + Gap Filling: 1$ - 28mm Model, 2.50$ - 40mm Model, 5-10$ - 60mm Model, 10-20$ - Tank / Big Model that doesnt fit in the 60mm Category.
Magnetizing/Assembly/Mold Line Removal + Gap Filling: 2$ - 28mm Model, 5.00$ - 40mm Model, 10-20$ - 60mm Model, 15-40$ Tank / Big Model that doesnt fit in the 60mm Category
Conversions: You think it up, ill put it to a model quote by quote basis depending on what you are looking for.
Greenstuffing: Pustules / Capes / Intestines / Flesh - Quote / fairly cheap due to the fact im not advanced at greenstuff sculpting work.
Quality Basecoat Priming: 1-10$ model or 40$ / Block of models, this is if you arent looking for my painting services, and may just want assembly / magnetizing / priming and what not.

28mm Troops/Rank and File etc Above Tabletop: 7-10$ Model 10 minimum - Includes Highlighting / Weathering / Basing / Magnetising *Champs + Special Weapons*
40mm Models/Bikes etc Above Tabletop: 10-30$ Model 3 minimum - Includes Highlighting / Weathering / Freehand Symbols / Basing / Magnetising *Weapons*
60mm Models/Greater Daemons etc Above Tabletop: 20-100$ Model 1 Minimum - Includes Highlighting / Extreme Highlighting / Weathering / Freehand / Basing / Magnetising
Tanks/Big Units: 20-100$ Model 1 Minimum - Includes Highlighting / Freehand / Weathering / Magnetising *Weapons*

Basing includes 1-3 Mediums eg. Sand / Greenstuff / Bitz / Grass to make a nice looking base depends on clients specifications.

You can contact me via PM's or apmclennan@hotmail.com
-Alex Mclennan


Speed Painted Test Scheme - Basic Tabletop No Frill 4$ / Model includes basecoat colour / trim colours / washing / highlighting or drybrushing

http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/images-10228-4628_Black%20Legion.html - Black Legion Gallery W.I.P Above Tabletop *Bad PictureS*



Night Lord Magnetised Champion or Lord - Above Tabletop Quality

http://www.dakkadakka.com/core/gallery-search.jsp?p=1&u=10228&g=5183&ll=3&auction=0&unapproved=0&coolnesslow=0&coolnesshigh=10&paintjoblow=0&paintjobhigh=10&sort1=7&sort2=0&skip=30&en=&st=&utype=&start=0 - Night Lords Gallery W.I.P from start to finish *some of the quality isnt the best but these are above tabletop assembled 8-9 months ago so have some mould lines / poor basing except for champion*

Also skilled at painting Orks / Tyranids / Space Marines - Drybrushing Necron Armies - Tau *Have not yet been commissioned for any Eldar / Dark Eldar* and would love to try my hand.


   
Made in au
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Australia

I endorse Sandsons who has just delivered 10 Night Lords to me.

Very solid paint job, very reasonable price, very very happy with the engagement throughout the commission.

Aurora SMs in 5th Ed (18 wins, 3 draws, 13 losses)

1st in Lords of Terra Open (Sydney) 2012

Aurora SMs in 6th Ed (3 wins, 0 draws, 5 losses))
 
   
Made in ca
Storm Trooper with Maglight





Toronto, Ontario

Put me up as a refference for hulksmash again.

He came through and everything is as it should be

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