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Ok, so I have finally written another list, without any Dreadys or thing's that will blow up in my face.

1 MOS DP with lash.

3 8 man noise marine squads all with doom sirens blastmasters and Sonic blasters, oh each sqaud has a Rhino for a "Gunline Charge" effect

5 Termy's one with a chain fist and combi melta one with a heavy flamer
with MOS of Cource
a Land raider to carry them

2 defiler's one with 2 cc wep's "Dakkabot"
one with Reaper and havoc launcher

5 raptor's one with flamer

this is far from a min/maxed list.

Consider each squads roles and how you can optimize their efficiency for that role at the lowest points necessary.

For instance, the raptors are special because they can have two special weapons. use that to your advantage and take both flamers...

Looks okay, not bad.

Why not either max out/ kit out your Raptors? or just take another Defi by switching some points around, or add another Slaan Sorc for another whip. And if you are going for a gunline effect then wouldn't you want some Oblits? Idk the list looks fun but the Blastmaster in every unit seems pointless, esp if they're in Rhinos.

Hmm, well

For the the first post i did forget 2 raptor's have flamer's i have the written copy here

one termy has a combi flamer.


For the Second post, I really do like the use of blast master's that small template, probably alone has won me game's and it is worth it, seeing as you can shoot out of the Rhino, also the Table's i play on are HUGE, so it's gonna be awhile even for a Rhino.

let's just say encounter's with Tau are scary. unless you have Infiltrate or scout's

but i'm all for creative criticism it help's me in rethinking and preparing these list's

Aha i see what you do. I used to do the same with Slaan Sorcs. As for infiltrators there is always chosen if you like, plus their loadout can be both expensive and amazing.

How many points is this?

Just under 1850