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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/29 01:04:19
Subject: Daemon Prince questons
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Slaanesh Veteran Marine with Tentacles
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I've been over analyzing my DP choice lately. I have 2 questions now-
What is the best DP configuaration?
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What is the best role for a DP to have? (anti tank, meq, horde, ic,etc)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/29 01:09:33
Subject: Daemon Prince questons
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Arch Magos w/ 4 Meg of RAM
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All questions of "best"-ness are relative. It comes down to what you need filled in your army. What is the rest of your army doing, and what aren't they doing. Nurgle DPs can be great anti-horde with a sturdy T6 and Nurgle's Rot. Khorne DPs are crushingly good anti-tank.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/29 01:16:08
Subject: Daemon Prince questons
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Warplord Titan Princeps of Tzeentch
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It really does depend on what the rest of your does. You could use the DP to fill in what you are lacking or if you feel your list is not lacking than use them to strengthen aspects. Just remember they WILL be bullet magnets.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/29 01:22:43
Subject: Daemon Prince questons
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Slaanesh Veteran Marine with Tentacles
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I'm asking you people to see shat has worked best for what for you
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/29 02:12:06
Subject: Daemon Prince questons
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
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Search. There are plenty of threads about optimum demon prince configs.
Top 3 in no particular order, all have wings:
1) Lash Prince: He lashes things
2) Nurgle Warptime Prince: He has toughness and timewarp!
3) Tzeentch Prince: He gets Warptime and either Wind of Chaos or Bolt of Change, and a 4+ save!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/29 02:14:24
Subject: Daemon Prince questons
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Morphing Obliterator
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I have loved my Tzeen DP with warptime and BOC. I now intend to field the DP with warptime and wind of chaos - 4+wounds/glances & template rerolling loveliness.
Also, a 4+ invulnerable means never having to say "where's the cover".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/29 02:16:18
Subject: Daemon Prince questons
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Wrack Sufferer
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Billie_Joe wrote:I've been over analyzing my DP choice lately. I have 2 questions now-
What is the best DP configuaration?
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What is the best role for a DP to have? (anti tank, meq, horde, ic,etc)
#1: Mark of Slaanesh, Lash of Submission, Wings
#2: Mark of Tzeentch, Wind of Chaos, Warptime, Wings
#3: Mark of Nurgle, Warptime, Wings
All others are garbage.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/29 02:23:00
Subject: Daemon Prince questons
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Graham McNeil
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What ever you do... TAKE WINGS i'm quite sure thats the number one rule!
Typeline has it pretty much right, although i've faced khorne daemon princes and there not to bad; its not the ideal configuration.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/29 03:05:34
Subject: Daemon Prince questons
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Fixture of Dakka
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Khorne Daemon Princes are the weakest link unless you are going for a fluffy list as they only get the benefit of +1 attack.
However it is the cheapest
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/29 03:30:47
Subject: Daemon Prince questons
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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Hollismason wrote:Khorne Daemon Princes are the weakest link unless you are going for a fluffy list as they only get the benefit of +1 attack.
However it is the cheapest
They can be good if your opponent has good anti-psychic support... however, +1 attack still lags far behind +1T, 4+invuln, or +1I when it comes to actually winning combats, especially when you factor in the access to warp time.
I ran a khornate DP for a long time, trying to convince myself that it was good... it was a mistake.
As far as the best "role" for a DP... well it depends on what your opponent is running, and what you need it to do.
They're good for fighting small, elit-ish CC units... however fail when you get to the really tough stuff like TH terminators, harlequins, etc.
With warptime they're pretty good for taking out vehicles that are speeding towards your lines.
I'll have to disagree with a previous poster about a Nurgle DP being good anti-horde. Even with 6's needed to wound a big ork mob holds its own against a nurgle DP just fine, and statistically the DP dies first if it's not supported with another unit.
Like most other things in the Chaos codex (maybe aside from the troops options) Greater Daemons are a pretty lackluster option... but still represent a better choice than the other HQs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/29 03:33:53
Subject: Re:Daemon Prince questons
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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How about you post how your running your DP, and a brief of your army. That way we can better help you out. Just throwing out random ideas into the wind doesnt really help out what your really asking, and that is "how can I make my DP better"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/29 05:22:34
Subject: Daemon Prince questons
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Missionary On A Mission
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Some popular builds:
Mark of Nurgle, warptime, wings. This one is dead killy, dead hard to kill, and dead speedy.
Mark of slaanesh, lash of submission. Wings optional. Usually sits in cover and lashes stuff, or with wings moves, lashes stuff into killing range, and then assaults.
Mark of tzeentch, warptime, winds of chaos or doombolt, wings, like mark of nurgle, but better vs lascannons and other anti-tank weapons that are usually pointed at DPs.
Mark of khorne, wings. Probably the least competitive option.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/29 06:40:25
Subject: Daemon Prince questons
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh
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I play Emperor's Children, so the only build I really make is wings and lash of submission slaanesh princes.
I have run one lash, one warptime before and really it just focusses fire on the lash before idly killing the warptime. With two lash I've had games where good movement choices have left the enemy splitting his fire more.
Nevertheless, I've had many games where I've lashed very little, particularly with mechanized armies. My princes end up in a tank-hunting role, especially against the Imperial guard. Daemon princes do a great job of smashing apart squadrons of leman russes!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/29 10:18:49
Subject: Daemon Prince questons
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Missionary On A Mission
The Eye of Terror
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Daemon Princes with warptime are better once they get into CC, lash lets them get into CC easier, but once they're there, warptime is better.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/29 15:31:57
Subject: Daemon Prince questons
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh
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Yeah that's why I had the bright idea of one of each. One pulls the enemy close, then they'd work in tagteam. But one of the pair would always die or they'd be TOO effective in cc and be left staring down the enemy's guns.
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40k Armies I play:
Glory for Slaanesh!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/30 02:09:21
Subject: Daemon Prince questons
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Slaanesh Veteran Marine with Tentacles
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which mark did you put on your warptime DP?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/30 02:14:12
Subject: Daemon Prince questons
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Wrack Sufferer
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Billie_Joe wrote:which mark did you put on your warptime DP? Slaanesh and Nurgle are always good. Nurgle being more common. If you give it MoS you might as well have LoS.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/30 02:19:28
Subject: Daemon Prince questons
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Arch Magos w/ 4 Meg of RAM
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Not really. MoS with Warptime is miles better than Lash if your army isn't built around Lash. Striking at I6 S6 with WS7 and re-rolling all of your dice is amazing for CC. You swing first against everything but a Broodlord and kill someone with nearly every attack. Nurgle helps it while it is getting to CC though, which is very important as well. I'd like to see a cheap Gift spam DP of Tzeentch though. I'd give considerable CC power to an army style that inherently lacks it, while not taking away from the main goal of the army (turn everyone into Spawn).
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