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I have fancied doing an ordo minoris inquisitorial army for quite a while, and came across some fluff in the Thorian source book for the Ordo Sepulturum : Zombie hunters!
Being as my brother and I have a sizeable plague zombie & death guard force, this sounds utterly perfect.

There has been a thread on this forum already where someone made a sepulturum termie proxy army, and was asking about names for a chamber militant, and Paleaomerus suggested the Secutorum Mortales, which means roughly The Hunters of the Dead, so I think I may run with this idea.

Whilst I think that an ordo minoris wouldn't have access to bio engineering or much power or terminator armour, they could probably manage carapace armour and shotguns : perfect zombie hunting equipment. I'm thinking guardsmen who have lost most of their regiments to fighting the zombie plagues, so they have grown proficiant at zombie smashing and/or demonstrated an immunity to the virus, and so are inducted into the chamber militant and given specialist equipment (carapace armour and shotguns) to combat this specific threat.

I was thinking of using the witch hunters codex to represent them, as this would give me inquisitors and stormtroopers etc. For the militant themselves I would use Stormtroopers with shotguns for troops (Hunters), Sisters repentia (Purgators) with massive chainsaws for elites - also perfect for close range zombie smashing, an Immolator tank for heavy support as it is burniful, and possibly a cannoness/palatine as a HQ (Castigator) and ignore the faith points rules.

To model them I was thinking either cadians with more armour, shotguns and pig iron gas masks, or remodled tau with shotguns and pig iron heads to make half-life style HEV suits. Orange and black colour scheme optional.

Any thoughts at all?

Okay , go for it, but is this an army list or new codex?

This sounds very cool indeed. I love zombie fighting in all its forms, and think this is a beautiful idea. If it were me making them I'd kit them out like the UBCS, but the HEV suits sound cool too.

phantommaster wrote:Okay , go for it, but is this an army list or new codex?

Can't it be both?
Neither really, it's just ideas before I start the army to see what people think.

Also, I just had a look at the UBCS, they look awsome and would be perfect, but how would I go about modelling them?

Depends which type you looked at, movie or game. (Movie have biker helmets, game e.g HUNK have gas masks) For HUNK style I'd do Krieg head, Catachan body and legs with Cadian arms. I'm not too sure how to go about making the biker helmets, though.

Arm them all with shotguns!

Game, i'm definatly going in the gas masks direction.

And of course I'm giving them shotguns, classic zombie hunting gear!

The Fire Warrior hooves might look odd for a human.

They can be green stuffed fairly easily though, I could probably manage feet.

It's more their size that i'm worried about, as they are slightly smaller than a normal guadsman.

Is there any way to make them look more imposing?

Also, I was thinking about having an army badge like Shinigami's avatar. Or would that be too corny?

Crystal-Maze wrote:
Also, I was thinking about having an army badge like Shinigami's avatar. Or would that be too corny?

A bit similar to the nurgle symbol isnt it ?

It does look a bit similar doesn't it?

I think something hazard signy would be good though ...

My avatar's the Biohazard sign. It would work nicely for Plague zombie hunters, as what is Nurgle if not a big biohazard? And CorpsesAreFun is right, Nurgle's sign is based on the biohazard symbol.

Exactly, a giant biohazard with extra pustules thrown in for good measure.

As for a colour scheme, i'm torn betwwen several options:
Orange and black - half-life referance
Yellow and black - as per hazard signs
Green and gold/silver - unusual for the inquisition (may look too nurglesque)

Thing is, zombies are a very minor faction in 40k. Very, very minor. If you want some kind of Undead Hunters, why not do a dedicated anti-Necron branch of the Ordo Xenos?

Cheese Elemental wrote:Thing is, zombies are a very minor faction in 40k. Very, very minor. If you want some kind of Undead Hunters, why not do a dedicated anti-Necron branch of the Ordo Xenos?

The Ordo Sepulturum is an already existant branch of the inquisition (look it up on lexicanum) and is just as viable as an ordo xenos army.

Nurgle traitors however, are.
And the hereticus don't just fight psykers, and the malleus don't just fight Chaos Daemons, do they?
It's true, there's quite a bit of fluff for them, plus I don't like the Deathwatch all that much.

And of course, zombies are easier to kill than necrons

Except Necrons aren't very zombie'ish. They're more terminator'ish.

If you read the fluff for the Zombie Plague, you realize it's actually a pretty big part of the 40k universe.

I like the idea, especially seeing how the Ordo Sepulturum was created to combat the Zombie Plague, it would make sense for them to have a military arm that is themed like your army here.
Colourwise, I'd go with Orange/Yellow & Black, although watch out for the classic penal legion lookalike thing. Don't overdo the Yellow/Orange!
I'm thinking dark grey fatigues, black armour, orange/yellow markings/numbers/etc...

We'll be back, and again, and again.
As opposesed to: join us; shambling is fun, brains are tasty and the hours aren't too bad as you will decay pretty soon.

It's a pitty more people don't play them, but I know a few who do

Excellant idea, though i may pick out one or two pannels of armour in orange/yellow.

Tema69 wrote:Except Necrons aren't very zombie'ish. They're more terminator'ish.

Technically necrons are supposed to fill in the role of undead army in 40k but oh well

Although i always imagein the Ordo Sepulturum as space marine, or at least power armour, based so that the any virus's cannot infect them i would suggest for your guard based equivilant you dont use the orange and black (too penal legion looking) or the green or yellow based one (too nurgley) and instead perhaps use red and white (in reference to hospitals and stuff).

Yes, but they're all shiny and metallic and really powerful; not like proper undead.

I figured as they were an ordo minoris they probably wouldn't get a shiny SM army, so went with carapaced guard.

Although a flash of the inquisitorial seal would get them most of the equipment, other, larger ordos might get slightly anoyed at the upstart whelps recruiting their own SM armies.

The inquisitorial cell themselves would get power armour (dark angels vets based?) as theyr'e not that stupid!

corpsesarefun wrote:

Tema69 wrote:Except Necrons aren't very zombie'ish. They're more terminator'ish.

Technically necrons are supposed to fill in the role of undead army in 40k but oh well

Although i always imagein the Ordo Sepulturum as space marine, or at least power armour, based so that the any virus's cannot infect them i would suggest for your guard based equivilant you dont use the orange and black (too penal legion looking) or the green or yellow based one (too nurgley) and instead perhaps use red and white (in reference to hospitals and stuff).

Yeah, but they don't infect, they fire armour piercing gauss weapons, and are made of frigging metal. Not exactly the classic B-movie zombie...

Red and white power armour is going to look very White Scars. And not very =I=.

For the troops, I'd suggest using a few "shock troops" (counts as sisters) in power armour (although you might want to look a ways to have them look as un-space-marine-ish as possible), as Corpses is saying, to protect them against the virus.

Perhaps look at ways to put your troops in HAZMAT/environment suits?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hazmat_suit

Definetely grab some Pig Iron gasmask heads, and remember not to leave any exposed flesh on your troops. Gloves and full body suits!
I'd use Catachan legs (because Cadian combat shirts wouldn't be fitting the fullbodysuit idea), Cadian Torsos (you need that carapace look) and arms (no bare flesh, remember? ), and pig iron heads (whatever ones you like best, although some have bigger gasmasks than others). Perhaps some form of backpack (cut down SM ones?) with oxygen etc...

To set some units apart (or perhaps the squadleaders/officers), have them be less suited up and enclosed, and explain it by stating that they're immune to the virus due to exposure over time or experiments.

Crystal-Maze wrote:Yes, but they're all shiny and metallic and really powerful; not like proper undead.

I figured as they were an ordo minoris they probably wouldn't get a shiny SM army, so went with carapaced guard.

Although a flash of the inquisitorial seal would get them most of the equipment, other, larger ordos might get slightly anoyed at the upstart whelps recruiting their own SM armies.

The inquisitorial cell themselves would get power armour (dark angels vets based?) as theyr'e not that stupid!

The ordo sepulturum are one of the most major of the ordos minoris, they have access to power and even terminator armour at will.

Tema69 wrote:
Yeah, but they don't infect, they fire armour piercing gauss weapons, and are made of frigging metal. Not exactly the classic B-movie zombie...

Red and white power armour is going to look very White Scars. And not very =I=.

That is true on all accounts

Tema69 wrote:
For the troops, I'd suggest using a few "shock troops" (counts as sisters) in power armour (although you might want to look a ways to have them look as un-space-marine-ish as possible), as Corpses is saying, to protect them against the virus.

Perhaps look at ways to put your troops in HAZMAT/environment suits?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hazmat_suit

Why would they develop a new kind of power armour just to fight zombies? surely just using SM would be easiest for all parties involved (fluffwise and modelling wise)

Tema69 wrote:
Definetely grab some Pig Iron gasmask heads, and remember not to leave any exposed flesh on your troops. Gloves and full body suits!
I'd use Catachan legs (because Cadian combat shirts wouldn't be fitting the fullbodysuit idea), Cadian Torsos (you need that carapace look) and arms (no bare flesh, remember? ), and pig iron heads (whatever ones you like best, although some have bigger gasmasks than others). Perhaps some form of backpack (cut down SM ones?) with oxygen etc...

While this will be expensive as hell it seems like an interesting idea

Tema69 wrote:
To set some units apart (or perhaps the squadleaders/officers), have them be less suited up and enclosed, and explain it by stating that they're immune to the virus due to exposure over time or experiments.

The ordo sepulturum fight lots and lots of virus's not jus the zombie plague virus, instead of having flesh just try using rank markings on the clothing/suit.

They have also been recorded to fight the obliterator virus, and I'm sure there are other swine flus of the 40K universe. Any army carrying a super virus / that had been in contact with a plague / had trafficked with obliterators (the list is inexhaustable) would be viable to fight.

Tema69 wrote:

Definetely grab some Pig Iron gasmask heads, and remember not to leave any exposed flesh on your troops. Gloves and full body suits!
I'd use Catachan legs (because Cadian combat shirts wouldn't be fitting the fullbodysuit idea), Cadian Torsos (you need that carapace look) and arms (no bare flesh, remember? ), and pig iron heads (whatever ones you like best, although some have bigger gasmasks than others). Perhaps some form of backpack (cut down SM ones?) with oxygen etc...


While this will be expensive as hell it seems like an interesting idea

I'm doing an IG army already, so spare could be used in that, it would not be as expensive as it seems.

The HQ will use power armour (Palatine rules), so maybe a power-armoured shock troop/bodyguard would be in order (celestine rules, again ignoring Acts of Faith, tooled up with many flamers). Using SMs wouldn't be too bad, although I would like them to be un-engineered men in power armour if I did, like male SOB (oxymoron I know). Maybe SM models with pig iron gas masks (the're a tad small, but this will reflect the fluff of them being normal men) and GS shoulder pads like the 28mm Daemonhunter inquisitor's (cool shape).

corpsesarefun wrote:

Tema69 wrote:
For the troops, I'd suggest using a few "shock troops" (counts as sisters) in power armour (although you might want to look a ways to have them look as un-space-marine-ish as possible), as Corpses is saying, to protect them against the virus.

Perhaps look at ways to put your troops in HAZMAT/environment suits?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hazmat_suit

Why would they develop a new kind of power armour just to fight zombies? surely just using SM would be easiest for all parties involved (fluffwise and modelling wise)

Uhm... Because to wear the ancient relic of Astartes Power Armour is first and foremost ONLY allowed by Astartes troops, and second because you need the Black Carapace to operate it (only available to Astartes). There are other forms of power armour (Inquisitorial ones, SoB, mining suits, etc...) available.

corpsesarefun wrote:

Tema69 wrote:
To set some units apart (or perhaps the squadleaders/officers), have them be less suited up and enclosed, and explain it by stating that they're immune to the virus due to exposure over time or experiments.

The ordo sepulturum fight lots and lots of virus's not jus the zombie plague virus, instead of having flesh just try using rank markings on the clothing/suit.

Then explain it as an experiment/antivirus/mutagenic whatever given to the key personnel, that protects just as well as a HAZMAT. Like the Filter Lungs of the Astartes.



@Crystal Maze:

You can always buy the bitz online.
If I were you, I'd look into other (non GW?) power armour'ish minis, so they don't look as Astartes. Alternatively, use various Space Marine parts, but be sure to kit them with bulkier armour, more cables and wires, and try to avoid having them look like marines. Are you any good with GS? If you are, using marines as a base should prove pretty easy - perhaps use Termie parts too.
If you like the Inquisitorial Power Armour, you should consider buying Fantasy knight armours, and adding servogears, vents and cables.

Tema69 wrote:

corpsesarefun wrote:

Tema69 wrote:
For the troops, I'd suggest using a few "shock troops" (counts as sisters) in power armour (although you might want to look a ways to have them look as un-space-marine-ish as possible), as Corpses is saying, to protect them against the virus.

Perhaps look at ways to put your troops in HAZMAT/environment suits?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hazmat_suit

Why would they develop a new kind of power armour just to fight zombies? surely just using SM would be easiest for all parties involved (fluffwise and modelling wise)

Uhm... Because to wear the ancient relic of Astartes Power Armour is first and foremost ONLY allowed by Astartes troops, and second because you need the Black Carapace to operate it (only available to Astartes). There are other forms of power armour (Inquisitorial ones, SoB, mining suits, etc...) available.

i meant to actually just bring in spce marines to work for the ordo sepulturum rather than using real humans

Tema69 wrote: For the troops, I'd suggest using a few "shock troops" (counts as sisters) in power armour (although you might want to look a ways to have them look as un-space-marine-ish as possible), as Corpses is saying, to protect them against the virus.

Perhaps look at ways to put your troops in HAZMAT/environment suits?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hazmat_suit

I'd prefer to reserve power armour for elites, ie. counts as celestians, best armour for best fighters. As far as HAZMAT suits go, the classic stormtroopers would do fairly well, ith pig iron heads and SM scout shotguns. They would need to look as un-marinish as possible though.

marines as a base should prove pretty easy - perhaps use Termie parts too.
If you like the Inquisitorial Power Armour, you should consider buying Fantasy knight armours, and adding servogears, vents and cables.

I want them to be non-engineered (Though the filter lung implants may be a good idea0, so they would need to be LESS bulky than a normal SM, and probably not 8ft tall.

Whilst I am fairly proficiant with green stuff, (and have an abundant supply of bass wire, as my brother plays) modelling 50 suits of non-astartes power armour might be a bit beyond me.

i meant to actually just bring in spce marines to work for the ordo sepulturum rather than using real humans

I'm going for a classic zombie movie type theme, which means shotguns, flamethrowers and gigantic chainsaws. I'm guessing your average marine would be fairly annoyed if you took away his blessed bolter and replaced it with a weapon arguably worse than a guardsman's lasgun.
A bunch of normal (though specialy kitted out) average-Jo no-black-carapaces vs. a shambling horde of mindless terrors please.

Someone here was alreadu doing that. Don't remember who.

The Nurgle symbol is just the negative of the biohazard symbol, if you haven't noticed.


Yeah, theres an article
http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/The_Ordo_Sepulturum

Haven't seen Hellfury in a while. We've lost so many...

Yes, Hellfury has done a termie proxy army, but I want something less SM, more zombie movie flavoured.

Sort of. So it would be in opposition to nurgle, which is fitting.

Railguns wrote: Someone here was alreadu doing that. Don't remember who.

The Nurgle symbol is just the negative of the biohazard symbol, if you haven't noticed.


Yeah, theres an article
http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/The_Ordo_Sepulturum

Haven't seen Hellfury in a while. We've lost so many...

True... So many dakka vets have left

Makes more space for us 'fresh faced new users' to clogg your net-space.