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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/19 23:22:00
Subject: Why are people afraid of death?
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Ork-Hunting Inquisitorial Xenokiller
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/19 23:22:52
Subject: Why are people afraid of death?
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Killer Klaivex
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I'm not. I'm Christian.
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People are like dice, a certain Frenchman said that. You throw yourself in the direction of your own choosing. People are free because they can do that. Everyone's circumstances are different, but no matter how small the choice, at the very least, you can throw yourself. It's not chance or fate. It's the choice you made. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/19 23:27:35
Subject: Why are people afraid of death?
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Ork-Hunting Inquisitorial Xenokiller
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Then aren't you afraid of going to hell?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/19 23:28:21
Subject: Why are people afraid of death?
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Killer Klaivex
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Nope.
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People are like dice, a certain Frenchman said that. You throw yourself in the direction of your own choosing. People are free because they can do that. Everyone's circumstances are different, but no matter how small the choice, at the very least, you can throw yourself. It's not chance or fate. It's the choice you made. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/19 23:35:21
Subject: Re:Why are people afraid of death?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Because doing stuff is fun.
People want to keep doing stuff.
Death may or may not end the doing of stuff. (no know percentages)
Thus people are afraid of losing the ability of doing stuff.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/19 23:41:27
Subject: Why are people afraid of death?
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Hangin' with Gork & Mork
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Cheese Elemental wrote:I'm not. I'm Christian.
Worrying about dieing and worrying about the afterlife are two different things; the physical process of dieing still is a concern for many people. Regardless of faith drowning, burning alive, and many other various ways we expire will typically cause panic. Enough Christians have said "I don't want to die (yet)" or some variation that pretending that it somehow alleviates neuroses of the issue invalid. Even atheists can claim to not worry about it becuase it is a natural process and since they aren't worried about Hell/Heaven they aren't to concerened. Hindu's have the karmic wheel. Still everyone knows it is coming and their words they say to convince others is different than the reality of they actually feel; hiding behind a mask to appear unconcerned.
Now to actually answer the question asked, because someone should.
While you have to remember that there are varying degress of concern from mild to debilitating fear, I think there are three major causes that can be singularly applied or combined.
1. Finite time and infinite goals.
2. the Unknown
3. worry over pain
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/19 23:41:36
Subject: Why are people afraid of death?
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Ork-Hunting Inquisitorial Xenokiller
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wow fifth post and it's already getting pretty deep. Keep it up!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/19 23:42:52
Subject: Why are people afraid of death?
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
Georgia,just outside Atlanta
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I belive that the main reason people fear death is an inobility for them to truly grasp the concept of no longer existing,think about it,everyones views,perpectives etc,come from the fact they happen to be alive to have those views & perspectives,it's dificult to imagine a world in wich you no longer exist.
200 years ago,the world was populated by people who loved,created,etc...everyone of these people have now ceased to exist..and in all probability everyone reading this,every one doing anything at this moment will have ceased to exist with in 100 years.
This is why I personaly belive that accepting the fact that one day you won't be here is a good thing,you will perhaps relize that every day should be lived,not endured.
I enjoy every moment I can with my girlfriend,my children,my friends and family...because at some point,I'll be gone.
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"I'll tell you one thing that every good soldier knows! The only thing that counts in the end is power! Naked merciless force!" .-Ursus.
 I am Red/Black Take The Magic Dual Colour Test - Beta today! <small>Created with Rum and Monkey's Personality Test Generator.</small>I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/19 23:45:39
Subject: Why are people afraid of death?
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Ork-Hunting Inquisitorial Xenokiller
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Yup. You should live everyday as if it were your last. Cause you don't what you got till your gone
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/19 23:51:37
Subject: Why are people afraid of death?
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Wrack Sufferer
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penut the butter wrote:Yup. You should live everyday as if it were your last. Cause you don't what you got till your gone
I don't know about that... how about the day after you lived yesterday as your last?
People have always been afraid to die. It's just because we don't know what is really after death, if anything. Our fear has even lead us to make up some very elaborate stories to help us cope.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/20 00:04:59
Subject: Why are people afraid of death?
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
Georgia,just outside Atlanta
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Typeline wrote:penut the butter wrote:Yup. You should live everyday as if it were your last. Cause you don't what you got till your gone
I don't know about that... how about the day after you lived yesterday as your last?
People have always been afraid to die. It's just because we don't know what is really after death, if anything. Our fear has even lead us to make up some very elaborate stories to help us cope.
QFT, While I have no interest in turning this in to a "religion bashing" thread,I do belive that one of the main reasons religion seems to thrive is due to it's abilty to give people a glimmer of hope for somthing beyond mortality.
If one can belive that at the time of death,they will be wisked away to be with all their loved ones who have passed,then death seems alot less scary.
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 I am Red/Black Take The Magic Dual Colour Test - Beta today! <small>Created with Rum and Monkey's Personality Test Generator.</small>I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/20 00:06:39
Subject: Why are people afraid of death?
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Ppl that are worried about death have to mean there is something good in their current life they would want to live for (hence they dont want it to end )
This is perfect , it serves as a reminder that while you are alive and have something to live for , treasure it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/20 00:07:28
Subject: Why are people afraid of death?
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Enigmatic Sorcerer of Chaos
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Fear of the unknown and the "finality" of it all make people afraid of death.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/20 00:16:12
Subject: Why are people afraid of death?
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Stormin' Stompa
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I'd like to reply to the OP with a simple, ':?'
Whether you're deluded or not, self-preservation is a natural priority. What do religions and political groups do, as groups, before they do anything they claim to stand for?
They preserve themselves. They ensure their continuing existence, through themselves or fellow like-thinkers.
What do individuals do when faced with death, before they question any of their general personal values? They kick nut, scream, bite and cheat their way back into unopposed existence, at any cost. If you're deluded enough to do anything else, you're just one of those fascinating side-effects of sentience.
Turn the question around, OP.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/20 01:09:17
Subject: Why are people afraid of death?
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Killer Klaivex
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Maybe I should elaborate a bit.
I believe that if I'm religious and I live a good life, and there's an afterlife waiting for me, then I'll be content, and I know I'll have contributed to the world.
If there's nothing but the void, I won't be conscious to know that I was wrong, and I'll still have had a good life.
But yes, self-preservation is an instict. I have no wish to die young. In fact, I'd like to live as long as I can. It's why I don't partake in stupid things that other teenagers here do, like drink, smoke, do drugs or drive too fast.
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People are like dice, a certain Frenchman said that. You throw yourself in the direction of your own choosing. People are free because they can do that. Everyone's circumstances are different, but no matter how small the choice, at the very least, you can throw yourself. It's not chance or fate. It's the choice you made. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/20 01:25:58
Subject: Why are people afraid of death?
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Ragin' Ork Dreadnought
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I fear death because it would separate me from my wife, at least for a time.
Would the process of dying fall under fear of death, or fear of pain? Don't get me wrong I'd rather not be burned alive, but how one dies seems secondary to the being dead issue.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/20 01:58:09
Subject: Re:Why are people afraid of death?
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Pyg Bushwacker
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i dont fear death i feel i have lived my life to full evan though im 17 iv still got alot to do but evan if i died tmorrow iv had a giggle for life that i have spent
also i dnt belive in heaven or hell but there is something after this life
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/20 03:41:18
Subject: Re:Why are people afraid of death?
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Battleship Captain
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The same reason people fear other things. It is unknown, and let's face it, if you die once, you tend to stay dead.
If I die right now, I won't exactly like it, but I'm dead. That's it. What comes after, now that, scares me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/20 03:51:30
Subject: Why are people afraid of death?
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Wing Commander
The home of the Alamo, TX
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I am death.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/20 16:55:58
Subject: Re:Why are people afraid of death?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Cane: I am death.
If you change jobs you'll have more friends.
Have you ever thought about a career in plumbing?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/20 18:55:01
Subject: Why are people afraid of death?
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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Maybe people aren't afraid of death itself, but of the many different ways one can die. Some ways are fun and some not so much.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/20 19:01:05
Subject: Re:Why are people afraid of death?
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Potent Possessed Daemonvessel
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For the same reason people fear other things. It won't be perfect for them.
I've never been in love or been attached to anything, so it doesn't really faze me. Besides, I already know i'll be sitting at the right hand of Khorne in the afterlife
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/20 19:08:00
Subject: Why are people afraid of death?
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Sslimey Sslyth
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Everyone is afraid of dying.
If you claim that you arent, I ask you one thing...
"As a pedestrian, do you look both ways before crossing a busy road?"
Yea, thats what I thought.
Humans instinctively try to avoid death....I.E. at SOME level, you are "afraid" of dying. Death is something to be avoided.
If you're trying to tell me that plummeting 30 stories to your death wont so much as raise your blood pressure a single point...you're a friggin' liar. Automatically Appended Next Post: Cane wrote:I am the death of reason.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/20 19:19:36
Subject: Why are people afraid of death?
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
In your base, ignoring your logic.
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Well deadshane those are all different ways of dying. I mean I wouldn't want to die by falling or getting hit by a vehicle. I would rather get shot in the head and get the whole thing over with.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/20 19:28:17
Subject: Why are people afraid of death?
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Monster-Slaying Daemonhunter
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Deadshane1 wrote:Everyone is afraid of dying.
If you claim that you arent, I ask you one thing...
"As a pedestrian, do you look both ways before crossing a busy road?"
Yea, thats what I thought..
yeh except being afraid to die and not wanting to die are not the same thing are they. For example I may not want something to eat when I walk past a resteraunt, however that doesn't make me cry with fear when I see one.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/20 21:53:03
Subject: Why are people afraid of death?
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Sslimey Sslyth
Busy somewhere, airin' out the skin jobs.
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whatwhat wrote:Deadshane1 wrote:Everyone is afraid of dying.
If you claim that you arent, I ask you one thing...
"As a pedestrian, do you look both ways before crossing a busy road?"
Yea, thats what I thought..
yeh except being afraid to die and not wanting to die are not the same thing are they. For example I may not want something to eat when I walk past a resteraunt, however that doesn't make me cry with fear when I see one.
....So when you're plummetting to your death, are you going to be quickly texting "goodbye" to a loved one on your cell phone?....or panicking?
Go ahead, lets continue this charade of "not being afraid of death".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/20 21:55:02
Subject: Why are people afraid of death?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Australia (Recently ravaged by the Hive Fleet Ginger Overlord)
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I guess no one is ABSOLUTELY certain as to what waits them on the other side.
On the other hand, not looking both ways when crossing the road is just plain fekking dumb. Regardless of you being scared of death or not.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/20 21:55:33
Subject: Re:Why are people afraid of death?
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Here we go again
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/20 21:56:10
Subject: Why are people afraid of death?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Australia (Recently ravaged by the Hive Fleet Ginger Overlord)
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BTW, I'm certain there are people out there who are ready for death. (paraplegics who don't want to go on, old people etc.) But they will ALL still be little scared.
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Smacks wrote:
After the game, pack up all your miniatures, then slap the guy next to you on the ass and say.
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