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With initiative 6, their hand eye coordination must be very quick. If you had a quarter in your hand, how many fractions of a second would it take for an average genestealer to take it from you? What would it feel like to know it's gone?

And please, the obvious jokes about the rending claws ripping off your hand and eating the quarter will not be welcome. But other, more cerebral humour is definitely welcome. Let it begin!

Why would it rip your hand off and eat the quarter when it can just rip your head off and eat your brain........ your post did say cerebral humor was welcome

Anyway, I think that 6 is rather quick. Seeing as how your average marine is only 4 in comparison and they could probably use all kinds of grasshopper quotes on you. I'd say you'd be out that 25 cents pretty easy.

In Legion the moment a trooper lowered his gun slightly, it was in two pieces on the floor and he was being held up in one hand, before he could react. I'd say 6 could take that quarter in the blink of an eye, easy.
(edit for clarity, this is an imperial guard trooper vs a SM, Legion is about Alpha Legion)

Excellent quote!

Well, that's double average human speed according to the IG codex. If the guardsmen are regular people, and they have initiative 3, that's effectively half the speed of a 'stealer. Cut the reaction time of an average human in half and you've got a 'stealer.

If i remember correctly from neurophysiology class the average human rxn time is between 0.2-0.25 seconds (my best time on the click test was a 0.158 s) assuming that the average guardsman is a healthy, usually fairly young male, they should be about equal to my time. So i would say a stealers actual reaction time based on I 6 would be about 0.07-0.09 seconds

Play the game here.......

http://www.bullettimereaction.com/

only made level 8, apparently i cant dodge a bullet from 188 feet away

62.5 meters is pretty far for a handgun. That's double most shooting competition ranges.

Grunt_For_Christ wrote:With initiative 6, their hand eye coordination must be very quick. If you had a quarter in your hand, how many fractions of a second would it take for an average genestealer to take it from you? What would it feel like to know it's gone?

And please, the obvious jokes about the rending claws ripping off your hand and eating the quarter will not be welcome. But other, more cerebral humour is definitely welcome. Let it begin!

Yes but it is not only a joke it seems very realistic. A genestealer probably would rip off your hand.

I couldn't beat 188 feet either

but i averaged ~0.2 secs, so a 'stealer could feasibly tear off your face before you have even registered that its in front of you...

holy crap.... i am gonna be jumpin' at shadows for months now.... i need faster reactions if i'm gonna fight 'stealers.

I'm not sure a 'stealer would be interested in a quarter. Remember that it is a GENESTEALER! Not a coinstealer. But a genstealer would be really quick. Maybe as fast as a slow bullet

lemon detective wrote:I couldn't beat 188 feet either

but i averaged ~0.2 secs, so a 'stealer could feasibly tear off your face before you have even registered that its in front of you...

holy crap.... i am gonna be jumpin' at shadows for months now.... i need faster reactions if i'm gonna fight 'stealers.

That's why you should have the good sense to be an immortal Champion of Khorne, wielding a huge chain-axe with superhuman speed and reflexes, like Kharn does.

SonofTerra wrote:So i would say a stealers actual reaction time based on I 6 would be about 0.07-0.09 seconds

I am an f'ing genestealer.

If a Genestealer wanted to take a quarter from you, it could rip your hand off, massacare your friends, go to the bar and drink a pint, then come back and catch the quarter before it hit the ground.

LOL!

Canoness Rory: What the...! You got my respect for that. I only got to level 8, too. Darn, where can I get reflexes like that?

lemon detective wrote:I couldn't beat 188 feet either

but i averaged ~0.2 secs, so a 'stealer could feasibly tear off your face before you have even registered that its in front of you...

holy crap.... i am gonna be jumpin' at shadows for months now.... i need faster reactions if i'm gonna fight 'stealers.

That's the kind of thing I was looking for. I don't even know why but this was just really, really funny.

SonofTerra wrote:If i remember correctly from neurophysiology class the average human rxn time is between 0.2-0.25 seconds (my best time on the click test was a 0.158 s) assuming that the average guardsman is a healthy, usually fairly young male, they should be about equal to my time. So i would say a stealers actual reaction time based on I 6 would be about 0.07-0.09 seconds

Play the game here.......

http://www.bullettimereaction.com/

only made level 8, apparently i cant dodge a bullet from 188 feet away

I got 0.09 on level 2!!!!

A lot of Ninjas here on Dakka. I can only do 0.3, but I'm tired and using a Wiimote not a mouse.

the average human rxn time is between 0.2-0.25

I hate being average.

I'd say that their speed would be very much like many Horror Movies.

When they sprint nearby, all you'd have is a 'whoosh' and a sense of motion. When they struck, someone would be down before anyone even yelled.

Bring lots of redshirts.

Deathbot wrote:

lemon detective wrote:I couldn't beat 188 feet either

but i averaged ~0.2 secs, so a 'stealer could feasibly tear off your face before you have even registered that its in front of you...

holy crap.... i am gonna be jumpin' at shadows for months now.... i need faster reactions if i'm gonna fight 'stealers.

That's why you should have the good sense to be an immortal Champion of Khorne, wielding a huge chain-axe with superhuman speed and reflexes, like Kharn does.

or become a sorcerer of slaanesh and summon I 6 daemonettes and I 10 (think about how fast that is) keepers of secrets.

plus you get to take the daemonettes back to your place afterwrds

I doubt a genestealer would be able to grab the quarter too quickly, due to the way their hands are designed (i.e. not for grabbing small objects with too much speed).

They'd be extremely fast, though. I6 is either Autarch or Exarch level, both of those are ridiculously better than any human.

Orkestra wrote:
Bring lots of redshirts.

I agree. That way, when they start dying or "disappearing" under mysterious circumstances one by one, you know to get the heck out of there.

Imagine a human. I3 Not hard, you are, most likely human.

Imagine a space marine. I4 Probably harder since you're not a space marine. Space marines spend every waking second training their abilities, including their reflexes. A space marine could probably pick up his bolter and shoot you with it before you could unsheathe your lasgun. Wild-west style fast.

Imagine a space marine captain. I5. They are the best of the best of the best, the most skilled, intelligent, and all-around powerful of all space marine. They could probably kill you with their pinky before you though about using your gun. Ninja-movie style.

Imagine a space marine captain, but magically enhanced with a mark of slaanesh, bringing their senses to nearly unimaginable levels. The world moves in slow motion for them, probably able to deflect bullets with a piece of metal. ridiculous stuff. I6. That is a genestealer.

I'm guessing genestealers can perceive time like a housefly; a movie is a slideshow of pictures and everything moves like in the matrix. And it's damn hard to swat them to death, especially with the rending claws.

This is why you fight genestealers the smart way; from inside a heavily armoured fighting vehicle, very very far away. And also why it sucks the big one to be a guardsman.

Average Guardsman is I 3 so take the coin as fast as you can then imagine if it was twice that speed.

I'm not sure that you can just scale everything up by multiplication.

A daemon prince could lift a lot more than twice what a guardsmen can.

Orkeosaurus wrote -

I'm not sure that you can just scale everything up by multiplication.

A daemon prince could lift a lot more than twice what a guardsmen can.

Aah... but could a daemon prince almost do a backflip?

I almost did a backflip once.... hurt like hell on the landing (landed on sternum )

I couldn't walk for about three days afterwards..... Totally worth the look on my Gf's face when I said i would do anything to do the bad thing with her, so she said "do a backflip", so i did, and i did end up in bed with her... just unable to move....

As I said.... Totally worth it....

Lets see a 'Stealer beat that!

Hey Shinigami you got beaten by spazzy over here
0.252 every round. At least its consistant

Grunt_For_Christ wrote:With initiative 6, their hand eye coordination must be very quick. If you had a quarter in your hand, how many fractions of a second would it take for an average genestealer to take it from you? What would it feel like to know it's gone?

And please, the obvious jokes about the rending claws ripping off your hand and eating the quarter will not be welcome. But other, more cerebral humour is definitely welcome. Let it begin!

I imagine that their speed is very comparable to that of the raptors from the Jurassic Park movies, (just watched #3 last night, and seems like a pretty good comparison). There definitely is a similarity between the two, as far as how I imagine them moving and fighting in packs...etc.