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As you might know, Wargames Factory (www.wargamesfactory.com) has a program where fans suggest kits and once they get 1000 commitments to buy they'll make it.

One of the most successful (after zombies) is Sci Fi Greatcoat troopers. Well after months of waiting the prototype is finally posted.



Thread is here:
http://wargamesfactory.lefora.com/2009/01/29/sci-fi-greatcoat-infantry/page111/#post14683992

Not bad but, is he waiting for a passing Chimera to stop and pick him up?

My questions are: Is the backpack separate? And are the arms separate?

Because if so, awesome. This plus Cadian = wicked cool.

I'll be swapping out the gun and removing that fugly backpack, but it's otherwise great.

This kit + some Cadian bits = WIN.

M.

So far this is all we got. Now the plan was always for multipart ones comperable to GW so I'd say seperate arms and heads are certain, with seperate legs and backpacks probable.

The talk is 3 bodies plus 'the works' in terms of weapons and bitz. Rifles, plus an RPG and some sort of phallic energy weapon.

WGF prices are usually around $5 per sprue, which means 9 (or 12) for $15, compared to GW's 10 for $25.

Hopefully more details are coming soon.

I assume this is a prototype, as the finish looks rather rough. But this is a good example of why, for all the whining about their models, GW is actually ahead of everyone else when it comes to producing plastic fantasy models. Setting aside the fact that it's not done in the chunky GW style, the sculpting on this model isn't great (it's very static looking), and the design isn't very inspired (the body armour is particularly unconvincing). It's not bad, but it looks like the metal sci-fi models from 25 years ago. If and when GW produce palstic Guardsmen in greatcoats, they will be superior to this.

Tailgunner wrote:I assume this is a prototype, as the finish looks rather rough. But this is a good example of why, for all the whining about their models, GW is actually ahead of everyone else when it comes to producing plastic fantasy models. Setting aside the fact that it's not done in the chunky GW style, the sculpting on this model isn't great (it's very static looking), and the design isn't very inspired (the body armour is particularly unconvincing). It's not bad, but it looks like the metal sci-fi models from 25 years ago. If and when GW produce palstic Guardsmen in greatcoats, they will be superior to this.

Surely the GW models will be superior, but they will also cost quite a bit more. I would like to have one of the thumbs up ones just as a curiosity.

FINALLY! Man, these guys are gonna look good. I assume the roughness is because of it being a prototype, but these guys are gonna be great kitbash fodder.

From WGF:

As promised, here's a look at a prototype figure that's been base-coated to highlight some of the details. Interested in your thoughts - and THUMBS UP!

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Keep in mind - this is a prototype - so the detail isn't as crisp as it will be in the final plastique.

Not entirely sold on it yet. I suppose it is a prototype and I'll reserve my final judgment after I see the finished product.

Sold.

Enhancements will be sort of a given with this mini (especially adding backpacks- I think the fuggly bit on the back of this one is actually just bulky back armor). But I will be far, far happier using my bitz up to enhance this cheaper kit than I would working up GW Cadians that cost $25 per box.

If WGF wants to get a serious stranglehold on GW for greatcoat sci-fi models, they need a price point that blows away GW's by enough to compensate for armies being tourney-illegal. $15 for 12 would certainly do that.

Are there any plans to sell seperate heads? Not in plastic obviously, but a lot of people would probably go for a variety of gasmask heads, like were shown as concept art a while ago.

hmm, not quite what I would have picked for sci-fi Germans in great coats, but it does look pretty good. Hopefully it will be compatible with pig iron and other separate head systems. Not to mention GW bitz.

The helmets are a big plain. Was expecting a bit more than just sci-fi Nazi.

I'm sold! I think the figure has the look of being in a battle rather than the typical prim and proper look of the Cadians... (and don't start me on the 'super steroid' Catchans!)
Mick

I'd like to see more of the sprue, but I'm glad they ditched some of the early designs and consolidated into this one. Looking forward to seeing the finished product, and I'll probably pick up a pack or two.

H.B.M.C. wrote:The helmets are a big plain. Was expecting a bit more than just sci-fi Nazi.

I'm quite happy they didn't go over the top with this and made sci-fi Nazis. This might be enough to convince me to waste money on an IG army.

I was just expecting something a little better than 1940's style metal helmet w/gasmask.

The backpack needs some work and I think the armor needs to be moved up the arms a bit. mostly pretty good though.

Looks like I'm gonna have to collect an army after all.
They'll really need some GW bitz to fit in properly tho. Lasguns and belt pouches are a must, and the brass etch aquillas will come in handy too.

H.B.M.C. wrote:The helmets are a big plain. Was expecting a bit more than just sci-fi Nazi.

WW1 =/= Nazi

Me =/= Not an idiot, Orlanth.

He's carrying a slightly altered paratrooper rifle FFS. He's a Space Nazi.

Why couldn't they be a little more inventive.

Chest armour looks a bit weirdish, otherwise though, I kinda like em.

Hmm...

Does Me =/= Not and idiot mean what I think it means,

WOW,
Your first idadvertant (or at least one I spotted) jab at your own intelligence

:p

Does anyone else think they look a bit small compared to the size of that Slottabase?

I reckon cadian arms and heads are gonna look REALLY big on that body...

H.B.M.C. wrote:Me =/= Not an idiot, Orlanth.

He's carrying a slightly altered paratrooper rifle FFS. He's a Space Nazi.

Why couldn't they be a little more inventive.

Because that's basically what I submitted when I put in the original idea and what most of the forum goers over there wanted.

Even then, the only thing that's WW2 german specific is the rifle (again proposed and debated on the Wargames Factory forums), the helmet originated in WW1 and the uniform and armor isn't really very reminiscent of the Germans in particular (everyone had greatcoat uniforms), actually if anything it's closer to the late war soviet assault engineers.

Oh look, a moon nazi with a G46 rifle.

From WWI no less.

The front armour is close to WWI trench raider armour, the back looks like an early lifejacket, the helmet looks German from the front but not from the back as it is to long (and by the way not all the Wermacht were Nazis) and the rifle looks like a British SLR.
I think the figures would go well with the Forge World IG either as allies or against them (as the FW seem to be based on WWI French).
Mick