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It is a remake of space crusade

I suppose there is no reason they couldn't take the Rogue Trader / Warcry Catacombs approach to the scenery this time around - with double-sided space hulk maps printed on the fold-out boards and plastic doors + scatter terrain. Assuming a lower price point than the current KT sets, I would certainly be up for that..

The Phazer wrote:Actually, the more I look at it the more I think that's an Ecclesiarchy logo rather than an Inquisition one.

Very true. I tried to squint at it to see if it might be an Imperial Navy seal and I don't think so.

(Inquisition is ][ with 3 bars, Ecclesiarchy ][ with a sun, Navy ][ with a ship's wheel)

Dryaktylus wrote:Rogue Trader Warband vs Gellerpox Infected?

A completely new Genestealer kit would be nice though.

Jadenim wrote:I would love an expanded team of armsmen, to go with the previous Rogue Trader expansion.

Could it point to bringing back the plastics from Rogue Trader board game? I think there was a rumor to that effect.

 Siygess wrote:
I suppose there is no reason they couldn't take the Rogue Trader / Warcry Catacombs approach to the scenery this time around - with double-sided space hulk maps printed on the fold-out boards and plastic doors + scatter terrain. Assuming a lower price point than the current KT sets, I would certainly be up for that..

It's a bold assumption given that the last time around, the "doors only" Kill Team box was significantly more expensive than the one with terrain.

I know, but you have to live in hope, right? Hope that somebody at GW holds the Moroch box in one hand and the hypothetical and mostly terrain-less box in the other and says, "Hmm, there is a lot less plastic in this one. We should charge less for it"

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

Dryaktylus wrote:Rogue Trader Warband vs Gellerpox Infected?

A completely new Genestealer kit would be nice though.

Jadenim wrote:I would love an expanded team of armsmen, to go with the previous Rogue Trader expansion.

Could it point to bringing back the plastics from Rogue Trader board game? I think there was a rumor to that effect.

Yes, I think we had a rumor to that effect. I don't expect to see Rogue Trader versus Gellerpox as box features, though. Not shiny and new enough, and probably not suitable for an upgrade sprue either. But as a release alongside the actual Kill Team box with White Dwarf rules it might happen.

While we have a pretty solid pattern for how the Kill Team boxes look at this point, I could see this expansion deviate from the other boxes and make it a quasi big summer release that introduces enclosed environments and comes with a few extra kill teams and a separate rule book, all without being an actual new edition.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 Siygess wrote:
I suppose there is no reason they couldn't take the Rogue Trader / Warcry Catacombs approach to the scenery this time around - with double-sided space hulk maps printed on the fold-out boards and plastic doors + scatter terrain. Assuming a lower price point than the current KT sets, I would certainly be up for that..

It's a bold assumption given that the last time around, the "doors only" Kill Team box was significantly more expensive than the one with terrain.

I'm pretty sure Pariah Nexus was the same price but with less in it, because you know, that makes all the difference.


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 Siygess wrote:
I know, but you have to live in hope, right? Hope that somebody at GW holds the Moroch box in one hand and the hypothetical and mostly terrain-less box in the other and says, "Hmm, there is a lot less plastic in this one. We should charge less for it"

Hope is the first step to what? Exactly.

And with GW it really is "Hmm, there is a lot less plastic in this one. We should have marketing talk it up more."

Worth mentioning that there was a rumor of multipart Armsmen at one point.

Everybody wishlisting factions isn't thinking big enough.

I say it's a $300 mega bundle of space hulk terrain with 4 factions. Kasrkins, Votann, nu-scale Terminators and Genestealers.

Seriously though, if this is a new setting for KT, is quite possible we get all of these factions over the next few expansions.

My only issue with Kasrkins as a unique factions is that they already could bee run as Veteran Guardsmen. Based on the leaked squad photos they have all the wargear options for it in the set.

Seem like a missed opportunity to get bespoke rules for other factions by including them in the initial set.

Now if we're talking five Kasrkins and some Inquisition or Eccleisarchy add-ons that would be amazing. But I don't see that happening.

 schoon wrote:

 ekwatts wrote:
Is there anything to indicate that this isn't a soft-reboot of Space Hulk within the Kill Team ecosphere? Because I would be down for that.

While I would LOVE for this to happen, not seeing anything that points that way.

Apart from it being on a space hulk and a CAT being involved.

Terminators vs Stealers. Kill team rules.

Everyone plays it, then go plays Space Hulk.

The_Real_Chris wrote:
Terminators vs Stealers. Kill team rules.

Everyone plays it, then go plays Space Hulk.

I haven't been able to get my hands on a copy of Space Hulk since second edition, so I certainly wouldn't mind a permanently available box set that can at least give me a souped up set of minis to recreate it all with.

It'd be nice just to have some Genestealers to paint up in their classic purple and blue, too.



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That said, it's entirely possible that the Space Hulk nods are based around the premise only, so we might be seeing Heavy Intercessors (with an upgrade sprue) facing off against chaos cultists.

To be as disappointing as possible it would have to be heavy intercessors vs centurions.

Heavy Intercessors with an upgrade sprue (Gravis lieutenant option!) Vs Dark Eldar Mandrakes.

Its going to be Genestealers vs Squats!

Are there any box deals out there that currently include genestealers? I think GW is required to foist off the old sculpts to pad out boxes. If there are none currently on the market, that might be a sign they will be included here.

I guess we'll find out what's upcoming on Sunday 10 July.

Space Halflings vs Gretchin.

SamusDrake wrote:
Space Halflings vs Gretchin.

I played that in Blood Bowl. Halflings were screwed unfortunately! The difference between armor 6 and 7 (or was it 5 and 6?) is huge in practice. :(

SamusDrake wrote:
Space Halflings vs Gretchin.

Not gonna lie, I totally be down for that! It'd also be a good way to introduce new Ratling snipers for Astra Copyrightum Guard.

SamusDrake wrote:
Space Halflings vs Gretchin.

Now we're getting silly.

Much more of this and someone will start posting about how GW needs to bring back the squats.

SamusDrake wrote:
Space Halflings vs Gretchin.

I will one-up on this one: Space Halflings versus 1 cubic foot of Snotlings.

What, no love for the Hrud or the Rak'gol? All joking aside, I'd love Kill Team only factions

 Sacredroach wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:
Space Halflings vs Gretchin.

I will one-up on this one: Space Halflings versus 1 cubic foot of Snotlings.

I take it that means Gretchin are to Snotlings what Primaris are to Firstborn marines?

In space, no-one can hear slightly icky squishy noises and nervous giggling?

Necron Pariahs vs. Inquisition.

 jspyd3rx wrote:
Necron Pariahs vs. Inquisition.

Necron Pirates vs. Inquisition?

Inquisition vs Inquisition

Isn't the symbol on the C.A.T. the Adeptus Minisoturm symbol? That seems like a bit of a strange group to be using a robot on a Space Hulk.

 Mentlegen324 wrote:
Isn't the symbol on the C.A.T. the Adeptus Minisoturm symbol? That seems like a bit of a strange group to be using a robot on a Space Hulk.

It is.

Why'd that be stranger than any other faction? Ministorum runs and coordinates a bazillion different organisations, including all sorts of violent evangelists and commando forces that go forth into the dark places of the galaxy. Everyone and their dog in this galaxy has access to various pieces of tech that can be useful in such environments (if they are important enough to travel in space to begin with, anyway). The forces involved probably aren't fighting in straigh-on hard vacuum environs, likely lacking powered suits, but otherwise there are all sorts of regular joes like storm troopers, boarding specialists, naval armsmen and whatnot who occasionally get tangled up in some void operations. A plausible framing would also be that the Ministorum side is fighting an alien infestation aboard their own ship in its rarely travelled, labyrinthine depths, but with plenty of their own tools and helpful machinery at hand.

 Sherrypie wrote:

It is.

Why'd that be stranger than any other faction? Ministorum runs and coordinates a bazillion different organisations, including all sorts of violent evangelists and commando forces that go forth into the dark places of the galaxy. Everyone and their dog in this galaxy has access to various pieces of tech that can be useful in such environments (if they are important enough to travel in space to begin with, anyway). The forces involved probably aren't fighting in straigh-on hard vacuum environs, likely lacking powered suits, but otherwise there are all sorts of regular joes like storm troopers, boarding specialists, naval armsmen and whatnot who occasionally get tangled up in some void operations. A plausible framing would also be that the Ministorum side is fighting an alien infestation aboard their own ship in its rarely travelled, labyrinthine depths, but with plenty of their own tools and helpful machinery at hand.

Honestly, it's stranger for it to be Ministorum as the thing isn't carved out of the skull of a zealot or a cherub. When you think "Ministorum", you tend towards the cherubs and servoskulls with laud-hailers and the like.

The more I look at it? The weirder this thing is. Why is a clearly mechanical piece, lacking human elements and likely skirting close to what the Ecclesiarchy considers as "heresy", sporting a Ministorum insignia?

The only reasonable-ish explanation I can think of leads me to an Inquisitor's warband--with a piece of tech operated by a Techpriest but blessed by a Ministorum Priest as it gets sent into "corrupted" areas?

Heck, the Ministorum insignia looks like it's just kind of jammed in there.

If you look at the bottom of the insignia, it does not look like it is part of the 'body' of the C.A.T. but rather it looks like it is attached around the spar for the track assembly.

All in all, it's heckin' weird.