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hq

1 big mek, kff, power klaw - 110
1 big mek, kff, power klaw - 110
220

troops

30 shootaboyz
(3) rokkit launcha
(1) nob, power klaw, bosspole - 250

30 shootaboyz
(3) rokkit launcha
(1) nob, power klaw, bosspole - 250

30 shootaboyz
(3) rokkit launcha
(1) nob, power klaw, bosspole - 250

1 deff dread, grot riggers, +2xccw - 110
1 deff dread, grot riggers, +2xccw - 110
970

fast attack

3 deffkoptas, tl-rl, buzzsaw - 210
210

heavy support

3 killa kan, rokkit launcha - 150
3 killa kan, rokkit launcha - 150
3 killa kan, rokkit launcha - 150
450

1850

c&c welcome

ps. against space wolfs.

Are they mechanized, drop podding, what? If their infantry isn't hidden in a transport, take grotzookas on those kans, two S6 blasts doesnt seem as useful as a S8 AP3 hit, but in reality the situations youll most likely end up facing with each would be one or two hits that wound on 2 that they will probably get a 4+ cover save against with the rokkits or 9 give or take 2ish S6 hits that they get a 3+ armor save against and both weapons wll wound a marine on 2s. If you are fighting mechanized wolves keep the rokkits, because with the BS3 theyre your best shot at popping armor.

he uses tanks and rhinos, no drop pods.

Rokkits were a good call then, but would drop the dreads for lootas then, popping an extra transport a turn would probably help you a lot.

thx, but i have never used deff dreads, i got 2. are they any good or crap in this list. can i shoot through kans or do they block line of sight? i dont like lootas, i know they are good but i like more boyz...

im thinking this 1750:
hq

1 big mek, kff - 85
1 big mek, kff - 85
170

troops

30 shootaboyz
(3) rokkit launcha
(1) nob, power klaw, bosspole - 250

30 shootaboyz
(3) rokkit launcha
(1) nob, power klaw, bosspole - 250

30 shootaboyz
(3) rokkit launcha
(1) nob, power klaw, bosspole - 250

1 deff dread, grot riggers, +2xccw - 110
1 deff dread, grot riggers, +2xccw - 110
970

fast attack

3 deffkoptas, tl-rl, 1xbuzzsaw - 160
160

heavy support

3 killa kan, rokkit launcha - 150
3 killa kan, rokkit launcha - 150
3 killa kan, rokkit launcha - 150
450

1750

Thats a pretty standard dread bash list, and it should work pretty well.

From what I recall, if you get all the kans in a wall base to base it blocks the LOS but I'm not sure if thats true. I've never read an official statement on that :/

If you can get 2 kans in each mob within 6" of a kff then they get a 4+ and if you run the boyz up behind the kanz they get a 4+ for intervening models.

hq

1 big mek, kff - 85
1 big mek, kff - 85
170

troops

30 slugga&choppa
(1) nob, power klaw, bosspole - 220

30 slugga&choppa
(1) nob, power klaw, bosspole - 220

30 shootaboyz
(3) big shoota
(1) nob, power klaw, bosspole - 235

30 shootaboyz
(3) big shoota
(1) nob, power klaw, bosspole - 235

1 deff dread, armour plates, grot riggers, 2xskorcha - 100
1 deff dread, armour plates, grot riggers, 2xskorcha - 100
1110

fast attack

1 deffkopta, tl-rl, buzzsaw - 70
1 deffkopta, tl-rl - 45
1 deffkopta, tl-rl - 45
160

heavy support

3 killa kan, grotzookas - 135
3 killa kan, grotzookas - 135
3 killa kan, grotzookas - 135
405

1845

hq

1 big mek, kff, power klaw - 110
1 big mek, kff, power klaw - 110
220

troops

30 slugga&choppa
(1) nob, power klaw, bosspole - 220

30 slugga&choppa
(1) nob, power klaw, bosspole - 220

30 shootaboyz
(3) rokkit launcha
(1) nob, power klaw, bosspole - 250

30 shootaboyz
(3) rokkit launcha
(1) nob, power klaw, bosspole - 250

1 deff dread, armour plates, grot riggers, +2x dccw - 120
1 deff dread, armour plates, grot riggers, +2x dccw - 120
1180

heavy support

3 killa kan, rokkit launcha - 150
3 killa kan, rokkit launcha - 150
3 killa kan, rokkit launcha - 150
450

1850