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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/23 02:05:55
Subject: The Deff Rolla Petition
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Ok got it up and running folks. Ive got the link in my signature as well as in this thread. Its simple. Click the link, fill out the simple info (its all totally safe guarded by the website that hosts this) and your on your way to helping US the gaming community, actually get something from GW that we all WANT lol.
Thanks everyone
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/the-deff-rolla-petition
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/23 02:29:44
Subject: The Deff Rolla Petition
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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KingCracker wrote:Ok got it up and running folks. Ive got the link in my signature as well as in this thread. Its simple. Click the link, fill out the simple info (its all totally safe guarded by the website that hosts this) and your on your way to helping US the gaming community, actually get something from GW that we all WANT lol.
Thanks everyone
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/the-deff-rolla-petition
Aww, The Deff Rolla argument is like half the fun of 40k.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/23 02:58:37
Subject: The Deff Rolla Petition
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Proud Phantom Titan
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This is YMDC so i guess some judgement is expected. GW will never FAQ this ... The codex is a year old your more likely to see an new Ork codex. or for it to get expalined in another races FAQ ... Necron FAQ "Q Can the deff roller cause D6 str10 hit? A no Clearly living metal is more powerful" Leaving every other race in more confusion.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/23 03:16:00
Subject: The Deff Rolla Petition
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
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I'm not signing it just incase they rule that a poodle IS a special kind of dog but no dog is allowed within 1" of the house.
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Interceptor Drones can disembark at any point during the Sun Shark's move (even though models cannot normally disembark from Zooming Flyers).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/23 03:44:47
Subject: Re:The Deff Rolla Petition
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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Well I signed it. I want this answered damnit!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/23 08:34:56
Subject: The Deff Rolla Petition
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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Signed. I can dream after all. You should post this 40K general too though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/23 08:41:34
Subject: The Deff Rolla Petition
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Aspirant Tech-Adept
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Sorry, i see what your trying to do but i cant see GW bowing to the will of the people, you'd stand a better chance of of winning a peace prize... oh wait... they hand those out to anyone now.
not signed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/23 08:54:39
Subject: The Deff Rolla Petition
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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Apathy for the win!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/23 10:33:27
Subject: The Deff Rolla Petition
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Hey everybody,
If this petition isn't for you, feel free to not post in the thread!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/23 13:14:38
Subject: The Deff Rolla Petition
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Neconilis wrote:Signed. I can dream after all. You should post this 40K general too though.
Lol yea but I dont want to make double posts, those always bugged me.
Thanks for the support so far, made it late last night and already have 14 a mere 7 hours later. Not too bad. All I can say is, other onlione forums are really weird to navigate after being on DAKKA for so long
And dont think of it as "well this is DUMB ME NOT SIGN" think of it as a chance for GW to think, maybe we need to address this at least. And that would be cool for me. Im just sick of my Orks getting crapped on because people abuse the rules for them
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/23 14:14:13
Subject: Re:The Deff Rolla Petition
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Major
far away from Battle Creek, Michigan
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I signed it for all the good that it will do. Why don't you cross post this on warseer, 40konline, and bell of lost souls?
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PROSECUTOR: By now, there have been 34 casualties.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/23 17:57:26
Subject: Re:The Deff Rolla Petition
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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WAY ahead of you. But forsome reason Im having difficulties on warseer. They keep deleting it, and I cant PM anyone lol. Ill figure it out.
Bell of lost souls tho, I think I forgot that one.
Seriously this is on 6 sites I believe now
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/23 18:02:20
Subject: The Deff Rolla Petition
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Huge Bone Giant
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Why not ask them for regular comprehensive FAQs, in general? There are plenty of other issues that need answered as well.
Is it just a personal issue?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/23 18:17:51
Subject: The Deff Rolla Petition
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Hanging Out with Russ until Wolftime
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Can we have a petition for GW to hire me to write their Rules? I need a Job :(
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/23 18:43:58
Subject: The Deff Rolla Petition
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Dakka Veteran
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I'll be the first to anti-sign that one, G.Wizzle.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/23 19:10:59
Subject: The Deff Rolla Petition
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Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander
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Gwar! wrote:Can we have a petition for GW to hire me to write their Rules? I need a Job :(
Spending those 10k posts / time investment into actually getting a job may make a difference.
So did you sign or not?
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Target locked,ready to fire
In dedicatio imperatum ultra articulo mortis.
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We were wrong. It's not the 40k End Times. It's the Trademarkening.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/23 20:28:14
Subject: Re:The Deff Rolla Petition
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Devestating Grey Knight Dreadknight
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I think you have struck upon a good idea. I also think, however, that it's scope is not as large as it should be.
Rather than having to petition for an FAQ update on a question by question basis; why not start a petition that asks for a yearly FAQ update for all codexes.
Of course some codexes might not get any updates and some may get many additions but either way it would be a vast improvement over the drop once per codex FAQ we normally see. I don't think that it would eat up to much time on GW's part to try and update some rules questions yearly as a service to their customers. I don't think they will have to hire anyone for the sole purpose of writing these updates.
There are some big forums dedicated to 40k that represent a good chunk of the international 40k community. If we could get GW to realise how important updated FAQs are maybe they might do something to help us out. It seems to me like a better solution than asking for updates on a question by question basis.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/23 20:34:50
Subject: The Deff Rolla Petition
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Nasty Nob on a Boar
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I'll take the 25K euros to write the rules and stay in the US.
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No madam, 40,000 is the year that this game is set in. Not how much it costs. Though you may have a point. - GW Fulchester
The Gatling Guns have flamethrowers on them because this is 40k - DOW III
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/23 20:55:52
Subject: The Deff Rolla Petition
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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RxGhost wrote:I'll be the first to anti-sign that one, G.Wizzle.
I second that. The rules are bad enough as is.
Signed! Im cruious to get an actual answer on this one. Know a few guys that stress over this issue more then its worth.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/23 21:41:49
Subject: The Deff Rolla Petition
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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Ya I'll Sign unfortunatly there are those out there who won't play it how GW says because they say GW isn't offical and don't like them making the rules of there game. Its usually those people who don't want Deff rollas to work you know the guys who think a giant spiked roller is ineffectual to anything.
IT WORKS CUZ THEY SAYZ IT DUZ!!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/23 23:54:32
Subject: Re:The Deff Rolla Petition
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Well, all Ill say on how the deff rolla should be used, is that my opinion is loud and clear in a few threads about it lol
I dont want my opinion to mucky up the petition.
Also, There is a few reason I made a petition on this rule. Im an Ork player, and it bugs me that the army I love so much, gets crapped on because of this rule (obviously there are others for other armies but again I play Orks) it makes people upset because no one can seem to find common ground on it.
Ive also heard about tournaments where people COULD use it against vehicles early on, then COULDNT use it against vehicles later. To me, thats just messed up. The players that lose to an Ork army because of it get pissed out about that. And I agree. If I played a tourny where I got my vehicles hulk smashed in round 1, then found out later the TO said "well... lets not allow it now" Id want a re match at least.
Also, I figured asking on ONE rule would be more effective at first. Baby steps folks its how they cure addicts. GW seems to think that no matter what, we are HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY about how they do things. Sure some editions I like more then 5th. Somethings in 5th I love, but the fact still remains, we as hobbyists have paid good money and spent alot of time and effort to make our armies how we want. Then we play the game and there are so many things that just make you stop and ask "well what the hell do we do?"
To me thats not fair to us as hobbyists.
OK enough ranting lol. Make sure you guys get your friends and whatnot to sign this puppy. We need them to know that we want something done!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/24 00:33:21
Subject: Re:The Deff Rolla Petition
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
Finland
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Signed.
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12001st Valusian Airborne
Chrome Warriors
Death Guard
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/24 04:19:58
Subject: Re:The Deff Rolla Petition
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
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KingCracker wrote:Well, all Ill say on how the deff rolla should be used, is that my opinion is loud and clear in a few threads about it lol I dont want my opinion to mucky up the petition. Also, There is a few reason I made a petition on this rule. Im an Ork player, and it bugs me that the army I love so much, gets crapped on because of this rule (obviously there are others for other armies but again I play Orks) it makes people upset because no one can seem to find common ground on it. Ive also heard about tournaments where people COULD use it against vehicles early on, then COULDNT use it against vehicles later. To me, thats just messed up. The players that lose to an Ork army because of it get pissed out about that. And I agree. If I played a tourny where I got my vehicles hulk smashed in round 1, then found out later the TO said "well... lets not allow it now" Id want a re match at least. Also, I figured asking on ONE rule would be more effective at first. Baby steps folks its how they cure addicts. GW seems to think that no matter what, we are HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY about how they do things. Sure some editions I like more then 5th. Somethings in 5th I love, but the fact still remains, we as hobbyists have paid good money and spent alot of time and effort to make our armies how we want. Then we play the game and there are so many things that just make you stop and ask "well what the hell do we do?" To me thats not fair to us as hobbyists. OK enough ranting lol. Make sure you guys get your friends and whatnot to sign this puppy. We need them to know that we want something done!
I wasn't going to sign the petition, as I hate putting my email on any ol site... but this post made me angry enough at GW that I was rallied to say something. Signed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/24 05:29:34
Subject: Re:The Deff Rolla Petition
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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*sigh*
Ok Ive gotten the petition on several other forums and most of them seem to be going rather well. Im having trouble with warseer and 40konline. They keep thinking Im spamming them. And yes in their rules I totally understand. But Ive tried writing mods and the like about my intentions, but to no avail so far. If any of you guys are on either of those sights, please help a brotha out
I think a simple "hey KingCracker is an upright citizen and he even plays *insert whatever army the mod in question plays* and LOVES them. Oh you play *insert special company/caste/hivefleet/clan* hey so does good ol KingCracker, You KNOW he rescues the elderly and likes kittens"
Something along those lines
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/24 07:13:33
Subject: The Deff Rolla Petition
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Calculating Commissar
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What exactly did I just sign?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/24 07:40:22
Subject: Re:The Deff Rolla Petition
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Freelance Soldier
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We, the undersigned, would like Games Workshop to make a ruling on what Deff Rollas do in all pertinent situations. (i.e. - Does it effect vehicles?) Many of us do not care which side the answer falls on, so long as an answer falls.
Of course, you might add that you'd like some comprehensive, timely FAQ's; but that might be asking a bit much.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/24 07:42:41
Subject: The Deff Rolla Petition
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Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle
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I think being able to use this against vehicles is absurd. though, you could say i am a biased imperial guard player. I just think d6 S10 Ap2 HITS is a rediculous ability for a relatively cheap price I signed it, only because i want GW to realise that we spend fortunes on them and they treat us like hoes
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The true followers of the God-Emperor will never forget their name! We are the Imperial Guard!
Now and forever serving the God-Emperor, and Him alone! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/24 09:43:59
Subject: The Deff Rolla Petition
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Proud Phantom Titan
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Nenya97 wrote:I think being able to use this against vehicles is absurd. though, you could say i am a biased imperial guard player.
I just think d6 S10 Ap2 HITS is a rediculous ability for a relatively cheap price
I signed it, only because i want GW to realise that we spend fortunes on them and they treat us like hoes
wait what? d6 S10 Ap2 ? Nenya if an ork player is telling you its AP 2 then they're cheating you it doesn't have an AP (being a type of CCW). Every one gets an armour save!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/24 14:32:09
Subject: Re:The Deff Rolla Petition
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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I did sign...
but,
I find the GW FAQ's to be less comprehensive than the INAT FAQ. If you're planning on running a tournament, I'd recommend you declare the INAT FAQ as paramount to the GW one.
Download INAT here: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/downloadAttach/27688.page
For those of you who don't care to read, The INAT says that Deffrollas do not work on vehicles.
edited: I had said 'vote' rather than 'sign'
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/24 14:40:10
Subject: Re:The Deff Rolla Petition
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Sign, an official ruling needs to be made regardless if it's for or against.
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