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Enigmatic Sorcerer of Chaos





Buena Park, CA

Ok so after a game this past Sunday against a Lizardmen army with quite a bit of magic, against my old WoC that had barely any magic... Although Lore of Metal kicked me in the arse, I managed to pull out a draw but I have decided to switch up my list because of this... Time to add some Magic resistance!

Chaos Lord- Mark of Khorne, Juggernaut, Hellfire Sword, Bronze Armour of Zhrakk, Favour of the gods, Word of Agony- 395

Chaos Sorcerer- Level 2, Mark of Nurgle, Dispel Scrollx2- 180

Exalted Hero- Mark of Khorne, Battle Standard Bearer, Furry of the blood god, Shield- 160

Exalted Hero- Mark of Khorne, Collar of Khorne, War Banner, Shield- 165

15 Chaos Warriors- Mark of Khorne, Shields, Full Command- 300

15 Chaos Warriors- Mark of Khorne, Shields, Full Command- 300

15 Chaos Warriors- Mark of Khorne, Shields, Full Command- 300

5 Chaos Warhounds- 30

5 Chaos Warhounds- 30

5 Chaos Knights- Mark of Nurgle, musician- 240

Chaos Warshrine- MoT- 150

Total: 2250


So, I now have both exalteds with Magic Resistance 2, and a Sorc with 2 Scrolls. I also changed up my lord to make him more fighty since his old set up wasnt doing much for him. I took out 5 warhounds and gave the shrine MoT. With an exalted or sorc in each unit of warriors, this gives me alot more survivabilty from magic, and I got the hounds blocking my frenzied nerd rage. Does this look good or should I change something up some more?

Im also thinking of making the Sorcerer Slaanesh... As every time I battle people like to toy with me and burn me down massivly and make it hard to charge... This would turn it a bit and alow me to do a multiple of things to counter mess with them or even get into combat faster!
   
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh






Dallas, TX

Not much time to critique at the moment, but I see your second Exalted hero is carrying a war banner - that's for standard bearers only, and in terms of characters only the BSB can take it, in which case no Fury of the Blood God, etc. etc. You can give it to a unit of chaos warriors, though!

And I find the 4+ ward is good enough on warshrines. Being immune to fear and terror has served me far better, not running from fear units [which always outnumber you] when they charge, or from dragons nearby.

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Glory for Slaanesh!

 
   
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Omnipotent Lord of Change





Albany, NY

And the jugger's got MR(1) too

As far as your sorcerer is concerned, I personally wouldn't give him much beyond 2 scrolls. If you can find a better use for 50 points (you can!), I'd say go for a level 1 slaanesh caddy instead of level 2 nurgle caddy. Or better yet, no mark and save another 5 points! A single level 2 is sad times with no back up, and tossing 3 dice into 1 spell is more likely to net miscasts than IF

Also, I'd swap the collar onto the BSB and give the other dude Fury, as the BSB is more important to keep alive than Grunty McExalterson.

One other thing, I really dislike bronze armor on lords, as it's denying him spreading around his Ld9. There isn't a cheap solution to this (personally I'd take crimson armor over the hellfire sword, and go with a more toned down weapon for the beast, but that's me), so if you aren't missing the Ld, then ah well.

FWIW, I'd probably spin something like this:

L: Chaos Lord - MoK, runesword, crimson armor, word of agony, shield, jugger = 415
H: Exalted Hero - MoK, BSB, collar of khorne, bronze armor, shield = 195
H: Exalted Hero - MoK, fury of the blood god, shield = 150
H: Sorcerer - 2 scrolls = 135

C: 15 Warriors - MoK, warbanner, full command, shields = 325
C: 15 Warriors - MoK, full command, shields = 300
C: 15 Warriors - MoK, full command, shields = 300
C: 5 Warhounds = 30
C: 5 Warhounds = 30

S: 5 Knights - MoK, musician = 240

R: Warshrine = 130

Total: 2250

The lord is bloaty and huge, but he's got your word still, and my crimson armor fetish. Also a mountain of attaks. Hurr.
BSB is built to live more, and his exalted buddy slops around some MR(2) and generally fights things. The sorcerer reads his books before being dragged into combat and beaten to death, cause he's easier to kill than all the khorne dudes

Everything else is about the same, though I stuck the warbanner to a warrior block and swapped the knights over to red paint and the 'shrine over to no paint. Red knights for theme & death (& cause the jugger is leading them around anyway), unmarked 'shrine cause in my experience they kinda suck anyway, so cheap is better.

A tricky thing that occurred to me now, you could swap the MoK on one warrior block over to banner of rage instead (+5 pts), and then stick the sorcerer in there. Suddenly he has 3 attaks and slightly more purpose in life! But still a 4+ save, so kinda bleh anyway. To make the points I'd swap the BSB's brass armor down to an enchanted shield, which frees up the 5 points easy like.

- Salvage

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2009/11/03 06:00:59


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I played a list very similar to this against my LGS and salvage for a while now. I always found the Warshrine to be not as effective as it's points. the 3x 15 man shield walls are great but you will probably want something more than just 1 unit of knights for flanking/ hard hitting and the dogs aren't cutting it.

My opinion, take a khorne chariot (with 14 inch charge and only a 50mm front you'd be surprised how many options they have and how little they go flying into woods) dubbed the "cruise missile" one hit on the flank or even the front can break entire units on it's own.

I also have toyed with MoK ogres too, 3 with chaos armour and MoK is exactly 150pts.

Def switch the collar to the BSB, cheeky killing blows net so much more against the BSB than the lord on jugger.

and put a biting blade instead of hellfire on the lord, with -3 armour save you cut through pretty much anything and you can bump the zhrakk up to crimson armour for more anti KB and anti multi wound cannon shots with the left over points.

all in all love the MoK armies, nice build you're on the right track!

~DG

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"Chaos Lord- Mark of Khorne, Juggernaut, Hellfire Sword, Bronze Armour of Zhrakk, Favour of the gods, Word of Agony- 395
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The point cost is wrong. I should be 410. I think you forgot to charge for MOK.

Also don't be a pansy take the Daemon Sword! I know you want to.....
   
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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker




Newark, DE.

If an opponet is smart, the 2 units of hounds will be dead first turn through either magic or shooting, then they can take full advantage of your Frenzy. Just a quick opinion.

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Enigmatic Sorcerer of Chaos





Buena Park, CA

Thanks for the feed back everyone... I like your list Boss_Salvage... I kind of want to try the Hellfire sword, but will definitely try out your Lord build... here is what I got now though. I had to take zhrakk off the BSB for the lord, but I added in Rapturous standard to a unit. This way it makes up a little it more for the loss of lord LD.

Will definitely try out your list though, Ill have to do 2 games on saturday for both lists... after the 2v2 40k tournament Im in... which reminds me I need to go make a list for that... bah!!!!

Chaos Lord- Mark of Khorne, Juggernaut, Hellfire Sword, Bronze Armour of Zhrakk, Favour of the gods, Word of Agony- 410

Chaos Sorcerer- Level 1, Mark of Slaanesh, Dispel Scrollx2- 130

Exalted Hero- Mark of Khorne, BSB, Collar of Khorne, shield- 180

Exalted Hero- Mark of Khorne, Fury of the Blood god, Shield- 150

15 Chaos Warriors- Mark of Khorne, Shields, Full Command, Rapturous Standard- 325

15 Chaos Warriors- Mark of Khorne, Shields, Full Command War Banner- 325

15 Chaos Warriors- Mark of Khorne, Shields, Full Command- 300

5 Chaos Warhounds- 30

5 Chaos Warhounds- 30

5 Chaos Knights- Mark of Khorne, Musician- 240

Chaos Warshrine- 130
   
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Mighty Chosen Warrior of Chaos






Espoo - Finland

If the exalteds are on foot, I'd definetly give them great weapons for a chance of those juicy str7 attacks if the situation permits it (as with mundane weapons you can choose to use either hand weapon+shield or great weapon at the start of combat).

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