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Ok! for the people confused, this thread is sort of edited from an old one ,
saves space so i dont have to creat extra threads!

Of course released Skaven offers tons of new models , i was tempted , yet im having 2nd thoughts now and here is why.

My previous Skaven army is pretty much composed of nothing but 13 jezzails teams , 2 warp lightening cannons , 4 warplock engineers that spams warp lightening
and clan rats only for the purpose of fielding rattling guns spam , and the rest are expandable tar pit slaves.

What does the new army book mean? with the rattling guns NOT auto hitting , it means using BS 3 , they are only half as effective as before.
But , strictly speaking okok , they are the same , but its now just TWICE as dangerous to fire them since only half of them hit.

How do i synergize the new units i (might) get? This is why im asking , so i know if they'll be used at all rather than eye candy ( lol... unpainted).

Clan Rats - They are acceptable
Storm Vermins - Whats a good size? what upgrades?
Plague monks + Plague furnace - what do i do with them in my ranged army?
Hell Abomination - Very powerful yes , but does it work with my army?
Doom Wheel - This is the biggest question for me , they share rare slot with my warp cannons , and they shoot the NEAREST unit ( mine no doubt )
must i throw some skaven slave to baby sit it?

Need your expert help!

It's always been that way for Skaven. The stuff they build is powerful, but unreliable, so it's a fluff thing as well as sometimes a balance thing.

Luna, its because they are skaven
They are highly unpredictable, this is just a rules way of presenting that, and yet another reason why i love em

Also, things like the rattling gun allow a player to gamble through comedy and the effect of a weapon.

The first post edited with tons of new questions ><
help appreciated!

LunaHound wrote:Ok! for the people confused, this thread is sort of edited from an old one ,
saves space so i dont have to creat extra threads!

Of course released Skaven offers tons of new models , i was tempted , yet im having 2nd thoughts now and here is why.

My previous Skaven army is pretty much composed of nothing but 13 jezzails teams , 2 warp lightening cannons , 4 warplock engineers that spams warp lightening
and clan rats only for the purpose of fielding rattling guns spam , and the rest are expandable tar pit slaves.

What does the new army book mean? with the rattling guns NOT auto hitting , it means using BS 3 , they are only half as effective as before.
But , strictly speaking okok , they are the same , but its now just TWICE as dangerous to fire them since only half of them hit.

How do i synergize the new units i (might) get? This is why im asking , so i know if they'll be used at all rather than eye candy ( lol... unpainted).

Clan Rats - They are acceptable
Storm Vermins - Whats a good size? what upgrades?
Plague monks + Plague furnace - what do i do with them in my ranged army?
Hell Abomination - Very powerful yes , but does it work with my army?
Doom Wheel - This is the biggest question for me , they share rare slot with my warp cannons , and they shoot the NEAREST unit ( mine no doubt )
must i throw some skaven slave to baby sit it?

Need your expert help!

I don't know too much about Skaven but I'll give a bit of a go.

Storm Vermin probably work well in units of 20+ (preferably more) and provide a reasonably defensive base in the middle or round the edges of the gunline. Also, I think they can have a magic banner, so the Storm Banner (I think) might be quite good (the one that stops flyers) since flyers would cause you a problem with your many shooters.

Doom Wheel can not fire on a Ld. Test, though his Ld isn't very high IIRC. I don't think it should take too long to be nearer the enemies, as long as you deploy it near some slaves I don't think it'll be a problem.

I'm not too familiar with Skaven, so take my advice with a grain of salt though.

Thank you Daba !

any additional input is apperciated

Daba wrote:
Also, I think they can have a magic banner, so the Storm Banner (I think) might be quite good (the one that stops flyers) since flyers would cause you a problem with your many shooters

Bad idea. Storm banner also interferes with your shooters, so only take it in a non shooty pestilens list.

Basically, I think Skrye went down the toilet.

Warp lightening cannons, while cool, arent going to do much. If you ever roll the magic '10' for strength, then youve probably waaay overshot your target! may still serve some use on extreme flanks, though.

All units, imo, should start out at 20 strong, to get the max ld possible at game start, just incase theres any terror flyers in the opposing army.


Doomwheel is cool. I would send it down a flank, then make a sharp 90 degree turn and whap into the flank of an opposing unit. Auto hits are nice also, and will help vs fliers/flanking units.