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Made in us
Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle





Il

Ku'gath 300
Epidemus 110
Herald of Nurgle 60
-Noxious touch

15 plaguebearers 225
15 plaguebearers 225
20 plaguebearers 300
-Chaos Icon

Daemon Prince 180
-Mark of Nurgle
-flight
-Noxious touch

I have 75 points left over so I'm not sure what I'm going to do for those
maybe 5 more plaguebearers
or some nurglings

Wave 1:
20 plaguebearers (icon)
Epidemus
Daemon Prince
Wave 2:
Herald
15 plaguebearers x2
Ku'Gath

C&C wanted (because ive never played daemons before =P)

"When life gives you lem-BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD"
1500 pt nurgle daemons bleeeeh 2/0/2 but what fun they are when they win 
   
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Emboldened Warlock





Groningen

You might want to find a way to get at least a 2nd winged DP in the list. Personally I would aim for 3. Everything else is slow and not very killy without the tally. I recommend dropping the Herald for it, and some PB's.
   
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Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle





Il

what if i lowered ku gath to a regular great unlean one with breath of chaos so i get 185 pts for a second daemon prince

"When life gives you lem-BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD"
1500 pt nurgle daemons bleeeeh 2/0/2 but what fun they are when they win 
   
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Monstrously Massive Big Mutant





An unknown location in the Warp

Nivoglibina wrote:You might want to find a way to get at least a 2nd winged DP in the list. Personally I would aim for 3. Everything else is slow and not very killy without the tally. I recommend dropping the Herald for it, and some PB's.


Thats true you need some fast moving units...



 
   
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Horrific Hive Tyrant





London (work) / Pompey (live, from time to time)

KU'gath himself is great.
He is pretty much impossible to kill, and has a great ranged attack, aswell as the usual strengths in combat that all GD's have.

I'd drop all 3 plague units down to 10.
Add in a single unit of 5 nurgling bases (never underestimate them lol)

Also, try a small unit of 3-5 beasts of nurgle.
They are great for thier points cost.
They can deal with anything other than tanks, they refuse to die, and just generally hold up your opponant all game.

Suffused with the dying memories of Sanguinus, the warriors of the Death Company seek only one thing: death in battle fighting against the enemies of the Emperor.  
   
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Stealthy Space Wolves Scout






Windsor, Ontario

once the tally is high, nurglings are extremely effective. Even half way, at 10 kills 3 attacks each that hit most infantry on 4s and wound on 2s for 13 points? Yum. 7 bases (not even 100 pts) will force ~12 saves on ANYTHING; that's potentially a dead bloodthirster, a dead wraithlord, 10 dead orks, you name it. Once you hit 20 and they ignore armour as well, they will eat any unit they touch, every turn. For 100 pts. Best of all, they don't suffer from Slow and Purposeless. And let's not talk about the 21 wounds that are immune to ID and have a 5+ invuln....

JD21290 wrote:They are great for thier points cost.
They can deal with anything other than tanks, they refuse to die, and just generally hold up your opponant all game.

if I take out the line before it, this quote sounds like you're talking about plaguebearers

In reality, a beast of nurgle is very, very similar to 2 plaguebearers on 1 base that don't score. Lets compare 2 Plaguebearers to 1 Beasts of Nurgle:

The only things that aren't exactly the same for these two are;
Cost, number of attacks, size, scoring

Cost: A beast of nurgle costs 5 more points than 2 plaguebearers.
number of attacks: a beast gets d6 (avg 3.5), or d6+1 (avg. 4.5) on the charge. 2 plaguebearers get 2, or 4 on the charge. Fairly significant edge to the beast in subsequent rounds, though the random attacks can be problematic.
size: 2 plaguebearers take up more space, and are twice as vulnerable to blasts/flamers. Another fairly significant difference in favour of the beasts (we all know how much those demolishers/vindicators hurt)
scoring: plaguebearers score. 'nuff said. I think this is huge, one of the best things about a Tallyman list is how your army is often 50%+ troops.

As you can see, it's fairly even. I prefer plaguebearers personally, but there's nothing wrong with beasts in this scenario.

Nivoglibina wrote:You might want to find a way to get at least a 2nd winged DP in the list

this is important. Wings, maybe not so much, but I find 3 demon princes with daemonic gaze (and BS5) can get that tally up right quick. If they can catch something out of cover, even marines, you're going to see each one put 2 points on the tally pretty reliably every turn. I find 3 princes in my preferred wave can usually get my tally to that delicious 10 just in time for turn 2 assaults. You can save 30 points by not buying them noxious touch, as they should be shooting you to 10 by the time they can charge anyone anyway. But that's just me; YMMV.
   
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Elite Tyranid Warrior




Florida

JD21290 wrote:KU'gath himself is great.
He is pretty much impossible to kill, and has a great ranged attack, aswell as the usual strengths in combat that all GD's have.
.


Except one scout squad can kill kugath.. one necron lord... hhmm doesn't seem that impossible.. I have two right within the first 5 seconds of trying.
   
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Tail-spinning Tomb Blade Pilot




Phoenix, Arizona

Go with more DPs, your list will loose to 2 dreadnoughts and a marine squad that can hold up your DP (TH/SS anyone)

But really the thing i have found with Daemons is that you can massacre infantry based lists with light tanks, but against a Mech force that doesn't have to come out of its tanks you are going to be in big trouble. Dreads, Defilers, Kans will all laugh at your attacks (except DPs) and will slowly grind away at your army.

Now onto what i would do, drop some plaguebearers and grab a DP or two. plaguebearers can be effective even in small squad sizes because they don't die.

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Made in us
Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle





Il

i made a new list according to some of your suggestions but i forgot to put in nurglings (oops)

Ku'gath
Epidemus
Herald with noxious touch (ill prolly drop fo rnurglings)
10 plaguebeares x3
10 plaguebeares with 1 icon
Daemon prince x3
-Mark of nurgle
-Daemonic gaze

"When life gives you lem-BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD"
1500 pt nurgle daemons bleeeeh 2/0/2 but what fun they are when they win 
   
 
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