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2009/11/24 21:46:26
Subject: Chapterhousestudios.com Fleshtearers Shoulder Pad - need player input on design (cant use GW Icon)
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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OK folks, we get lots of request for this one, but since we dont really want to be sued by a certain game company, we need to make the design different.
The shoulder pad that can be used for Flesh Tearers chapter. The Official GW Icon is a sawblade with a drop in the middle of it.
We had a prototype of the pad made up, but we cannot produce it for legal reasons (see picture below):
So since we cant use the GW official one, do Flesh Tearer players still want us to make one? IF so, what would you suggest we change?
Ideas I have thought of, half a blade (top half), multiple blood drops on the blade face, blood drops around the blade, etc.
Thanks and drawings help us a lot.
Nick
Chapterhousestudios.com
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2009/11/25 01:02:47
Subject: Chapterhousestudios.com Fleshtearers Shoulder Pad - need player input on design (cant use GW Icon)
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Cowboy Wannabe
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well, there are several ways to go for a "flesh render" chapter. You could either have some sort of saw blade look with blood, or a more literal ripped flesh with the blood drops in the middle.
Blood drops with the blade super imposed on the round portion?
Many blood drops making up the shape of a circular saw blade?
"Space saws" chapter with a circular saw symbol, where someone could combine your separate, and surprisingly well fitting blood drops to make their own flesh tearers?
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2009/11/25 01:54:58
Subject: Chapterhousestudios.com Fleshtearers Shoulder Pad - need player input on design (cant use GW Icon)
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Fixture of Dakka
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Check my sig for reference.
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2009/11/25 02:31:33
Subject: Chapterhousestudios.com Fleshtearers Shoulder Pad - need player input on design (cant use GW Icon)
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Drop Trooper with Demo Charge
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What about a shoulder pad with torn pieces of skin covering most of it and a blood drop tatoo'd on it?
Centurion.
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2009/11/25 03:04:15
Subject: Chapterhousestudios.com Fleshtearers Shoulder Pad - need player input on design (cant use GW Icon)
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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I think we may do the crossed chainswords behind the sawblade and 3 drops like the banner (instead of below it)
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2009/11/25 08:02:59
Subject: Re:Chapterhousestudios.com Fleshtearers Shoulder Pad - need player input on design (cant use GW Icon)
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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How about:
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lord_blackfang wrote:Respect to the guy who subscribed just to post a massive ASCII dong in the chat and immediately get banned.
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2009/11/25 17:48:41
Subject: Re:Chapterhousestudios.com Fleshtearers Shoulder Pad - need player input on design (cant use GW Icon)
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Ferocious Blood Claw
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why not just do the saw blade and leave the blood drop out of it? At that point it can be a saw blade, or a sun disk or something else that doesn't infringe on GW's imagery.
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2009/11/25 18:56:22
Subject: Re:Chapterhousestudios.com Fleshtearers Shoulder Pad - need player input on design (cant use GW Icon)
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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Grimhowl wrote:why not just do the saw blade and leave the blood drop out of it?
That's a pretty awesome idea, actually. Perhaps the "studio painted" one can be an angry sun with squiggly curls.
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lord_blackfang wrote:Respect to the guy who subscribed just to post a massive ASCII dong in the chat and immediately get banned.
Flinty wrote:The benefit of slate is that its.actually a.rock with rock like properties. The downside is that it's a rock |
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2009/11/25 20:50:40
Subject: Chapterhousestudios.com Fleshtearers Shoulder Pad - need player input on design (cant use GW Icon)
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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I got you guys
I think we will take it a step further...
We get tons of request for Dark Angel and Blood Angel pads. Obviously we cant cast a bad with those symbols on it....
We can make a pad with wings on it. A pad with a sawblade on it..
Then we design small water drop bits and dagger bits that can be used by players to decorate the shoulder pads how they wish, glue on whereever.
So if you buy the wings, you can buy the small blood drops or the daggers and use them how you want.
The drop and be combined with the sawblade or the dagger... We cant tell you what to do with them
On the other hand we can always just do a boring sawblade and leave it at that with no little addon bits!
Though the Blade would be cool to paint on numbers for squads as well.
Nick
Chapterhousestudios.com
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2009/11/25 20:51:42
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2009/11/25 20:56:30
Subject: Re:Chapterhousestudios.com Fleshtearers Shoulder Pad - need player input on design (cant use GW Icon)
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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Might also do little skulls, chalices, lightning bolts and generic reapers and sell it as a "bling pack". They'd look good elsewhere besides the pads.
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lord_blackfang wrote:Respect to the guy who subscribed just to post a massive ASCII dong in the chat and immediately get banned.
Flinty wrote:The benefit of slate is that its.actually a.rock with rock like properties. The downside is that it's a rock |
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2009/11/25 21:07:26
Subject: Re:Chapterhousestudios.com Fleshtearers Shoulder Pad - need player input on design (cant use GW Icon)
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Hacking Shang JÃ
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I like the idea of the buzzsaw pads without blood drops. That way they can be used for other, home-grown chapters. The separate blood drop bits are a good idea too, but I'd probably just use decals on top of the buzzsaw pads. Maybe you could even sell little buzzsaw bits for people to glue on blank pads.
BTW that mockup looks like it's done on a metal pad. Aren't all the metal pads smaller than the plastics?
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2009/11/25 21:09:18
Subject: Re:Chapterhousestudios.com Fleshtearers Shoulder Pad - need player input on design (cant use GW Icon)
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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Arschbombe wrote:
BTW that mockup looks like it's done on a metal pad. Aren't all the metal pads smaller than the plastics?
Thats our custom designed pad, the back detail is different but the dimensions are close to the GW current plastic pads. We did these so we can always have pads to sculpt on that arent GW recast like most people have to use.
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2009/11/25 21:21:49
Subject: Chapterhousestudios.com Fleshtearers Shoulder Pad - need player input on design (cant use GW Icon)
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Dominating Dominatrix
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2009/11/25 22:34:33
Subject: Chapterhousestudios.com Fleshtearers Shoulder Pad - need player input on design (cant use GW Icon)
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RogueSangre
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I'd definitely support the mix and match model suggested here. More generic pads would be awesome.
As a personal request, can you guys do a simplified King's crown pad?
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2009/11/25 22:44:41
Subject: Chapterhousestudios.com Fleshtearers Shoulder Pad - need player input on design (cant use GW Icon)
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Ruthless Rafkin
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I think a generic saw blade is best, and safest. If you want to make tear-dropped shaped gems, that's good as well, as those can be used by eldar players as well.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2009/11/25 22:45:16
-Loki- wrote:
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2009/11/27 12:02:21
Subject: Chapterhousestudios.com Fleshtearers Shoulder Pad - need player input on design (cant use GW Icon)
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Most Glorious Grey Seer
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Go with a generic circular saw blade. Maybe make it more like an actual saw blade than the generic "pointy circle" that GW uses? Those who really want to can sculpt their own drops from GS.
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2009/11/27 12:08:28
Subject: Chapterhousestudios.com Fleshtearers Shoulder Pad - need player input on design (cant use GW Icon)
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Horrific Hive Tyrant
London (work) / Pompey (live, from time to time)
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I agree on the plain sawblade idea.
Then as said, an extra pack with things like tear drops
Lets face it, how many BA / flesh players hate having to sculpt hundreds of tear drops?
also, if you made one big enough it would be possible to put it on the chest of power armour.
also as a request, any chance of a skull with crossed-bones behind it?
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2009/11/27 13:57:59
Subject: Chapterhousestudios.com Fleshtearers Shoulder Pad - need player input on design (cant use GW Icon)
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Fixture of Dakka
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The pair of crossed flechette blades that appear in my sig are a signature item for the FT.
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2009/11/27 14:59:22
Subject: Chapterhousestudios.com Fleshtearers Shoulder Pad - need player input on design (cant use GW Icon)
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Most Glorious Grey Seer
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Green Blow Fly wrote:The pair of crossed flechette blades that appear in my sig are a signature item for the FT.
I think you mean serrated. A flechette is a needle or dart like projectile.
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2009/11/27 16:18:20
Subject: Chapterhousestudios.com Fleshtearers Shoulder Pad - need player input on design (cant use GW Icon)
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Fixture of Dakka
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You are correct sir. If CH makes some shoulderpads with crossed serrated swords I will buy a bunch and start a new army.
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2009/11/27 19:18:22
Subject: Chapterhousestudios.com Fleshtearers Shoulder Pad - need player input on design (cant use GW Icon)
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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Well I think we are going to take off the drop and most likely have them on the site seperately, they will be pretty cheap, but they are the rigth size to be able to be glued onto the chest piece of marines as well.
Double winner there.
Look for the Sawblade pad and seperate drops in Late December
Also we are working on icons for vehicles as well.
Nick
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2009/11/27 19:28:02
Subject: Chapterhousestudios.com Fleshtearers Shoulder Pad - need player input on design (cant use GW Icon)
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Ruthless Rafkin
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Excellent news.
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-Loki- wrote:
40k is about slamming two slegdehammers together and hoping the other breaks first. Malifaux is about fighting with scalpels trying to hit select areas and hoping you connect more. |
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2009/11/27 19:32:57
Subject: Chapterhousestudios.com Fleshtearers Shoulder Pad - need player input on design (cant use GW Icon)
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Horrific Hive Tyrant
London (work) / Pompey (live, from time to time)
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Nick, your a good man, and this news is great, keep up the great work
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2009/11/27 22:35:01
Subject: Chapterhousestudios.com Fleshtearers Shoulder Pad - need player input on design (cant use GW Icon)
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Fixture of Dakka
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AWESOME!!! I will wait until they come out to start my new army.
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2009/11/28 00:43:23
Subject: Chapterhousestudios.com Fleshtearers Shoulder Pad - need player input on design (cant use GW Icon)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Double rain drops would be very handy since GW stopped making the double blood drop pads that certain Blood Angels Companies are supposed to use... But that said, with the C:BA supposed to come out next year, I'd imagine GW will revisit them (or change the fluff again!)
Vale,
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2009/11/28 16:53:33
Subject: Chapterhousestudios.com Fleshtearers Shoulder Pad - need player input on design (cant use GW Icon)
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Most Glorious Grey Seer
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Triple drops = three times the blood for the blood god.
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2009/11/28 23:58:50
Subject: Chapterhousestudios.com Fleshtearers Shoulder Pad - need player input on design (cant use GW Icon)
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
Sidney (Home of Nothing), OH. USA
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Considering all of the 'IT'S MINE' crap that GW has been slinging around lately, has anyone bothered to check out exactly how close to 'thier' design something has to be, before it is considered an infringement of thier IP? As a tattoo artist, I occasionally have run into situations similar to these over the years. It always comes down to it being/not being an EXACT duplicate of the original. The reason I bring this up is that if GW's fleshtearer symbol has, we'll say for the sake of argument, 10 little saw teeth and your's had say 11 or 12 little saw teeth, wouldn't that be enough of a difference for it NOT to be impeding into thier IP's?!?!
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2009/11/29 00:02:44
Subject: Chapterhousestudios.com Fleshtearers Shoulder Pad - need player input on design (cant use GW Icon)
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Horrific Hive Tyrant
London (work) / Pompey (live, from time to time)
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Dont quote me on this one, but i think the saw blades differ in teeth from image to image with GW.
I dont think they actually have a set amount in each.
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Suffused with the dying memories of Sanguinus, the warriors of the Death Company seek only one thing: death in battle fighting against the enemies of the Emperor. |
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2009/11/29 03:47:28
Subject: Chapterhousestudios.com Fleshtearers Shoulder Pad - need player input on design (cant use GW Icon)
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Fixture of Dakka
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nice avatar. We need jugs to come to grip.
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2009/11/29 19:37:45
Subject: Chapterhousestudios.com Fleshtearers Shoulder Pad - need player input on design (cant use GW Icon)
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
Sidney (Home of Nothing), OH. USA
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Well I am absolutely positive that they can't own the intelectual property on every 'saw bladesque with blood droppies on it' design. You have to be very specific with that sort of stuff, both design-wise and color-wise.
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