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2023/03/31 00:15:59
Subject: Re:CMON N & R - Zombicide White Death (fantasy) KS 5th April 3PM EST
From their Twitter account: "We are just ONE WEEK away from the launch of Zombicide: White Death, so it's time for our first livestream! Let's take a closer look at what's in the box.
Join us this Friday, noon EST, for a chat with the game's producers (and some very special guests)!"
- Lacuna Coil did the music for the trailer video, there is also a full version with lyrics.
- They will also feature as survivors in a promo set that's part of the main pledge - everyone gets them. Limited release - no retail release.
- Compatible with Black Plague and Green Horde - not a second edition just adds and evolves some mechanics. Similar difficulty to BP and GH.
- New zone type - ruins - no doors in this version as the city is mostly in ruins
- Need to use stairs or ladders to climb walls.
- Game has an Asian/Eastern European theme.
- New weapons like lances
- City Guard - 3 sculpts - can be ordered with generic commands - move, shoot etc. or with special skills - Blue Skill on ID card. Don't respawn if they die they are gone. Spend 1 action to command. BH/GH survivors only get generic commands. Loss of guards generally doesn't result in a loss (some scenarios it does). Can use guards in BP/GH games.
- Freeze mechanic - drop a token - prevents zombies from taking an activation in the same zone.
- Spawn cards only spawn 1 zombie type - uses 2nd edition modern rules for spawning Abominations and Necromancers - decks for each.
- Defiler Necromancer - sends waves of Zombies to you - doesn't try to flee.
- Brutes replace Fatties
- No class types for survivors, they can have skills like spells but no specific class.
- Hinted at upgrade decks for older stuff.
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2023/03/31 17:56:32
Subject: CMON N & R - Zombicide White Death (fantasy) KS 5th April 3PM EST
The minis do look good. And the new mechanics they mentioned sound fun.
I also googled Lacuna Coil and listened to a song on Youtube... not my thing but didnt hate it.
The cards they showed for the zombie spawns..
show a lot of zombies being spawned at once... wonder how many will come in the pledge of each... I think green horde had like 40 walkers 18 runners,18 fatties. 2 Abominations and 2 Necromancers after stretch goals...
They did mention Asian/ eastern Russian theme... so wonder what the big "dragon and giant" type monster stretch goals will be. Wonder if the celeb inspired characters will also be Asian/Russian inspired... Like that super popular Korean boy band? A Kim Jong-Un Glorious necromancer, or a Valdimir Putin abomination...
Automatically Appended Next Post: Since they already have a Samurai, it would be cool if they made a Rising Sun Crossover pack to be able to use some of those minis as city guard or survivors. Like they did with the Massive Darkness characters.
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2023/03/31 20:20:22
Subject: Re:CMON N & R - Zombicide White Death (fantasy) KS 5th April 3PM EST
Ruins? Hope I can use my Battle Systems Maladum dungeon terrain for the game!
EDIT: The Creed expansion has snow terrain and the snowy terrain without the gameplay elements will be in the PM.
BTW, How are they using the Battle Systems Fantasy Village terrain for the Zombicide: Black Plague? Is there a BP scenario that's outside and would use houses?
Azazelx wrote: On the topic of CMoN and Zombicide - any new news on the releases of:
Batman Packs
Rio Z Janeiro
Supernatural Packs
Depends where you and what stock there is available are I guess
Rio Z is released 4th April
Supernatural packs are 30th September
Army of the Dead is September/October
Batman as mentioned is released (getting some is more difficult)
Thanks - I missed the direct order for the Batman packs, so I had to pre-order them from a local retailer - their current updated ETA is April, but they're also not entirely competent at this place...
Quackalope (love em or loath em ) White Death preview (with prototype game).
Looks like there are 12 Guards in the box - they make noise like survivors so they can be used to lure Zombies but they only have 1 wound.
All survivors must survive - lose even 1 and the scenario is lost but you do have the guards to take some wounds.
2023/04/03 23:44:21
Subject: Re:CMON N & R - Zombicide White Death (fantasy) KS 5th April 3PM EST
Nice video overall. I like the enthusiasm but they both talk at the same time...
I hope there is a plastic wall add-on... and I hope the caldrons get a physical model as well.
If they do add-ons for stuff from Black Plague or green horde, it would be nice if they offered zombie reinforcement packs. Like a pack of 10 walkers or runners or fatties (or the orc versions, or the new white death armored versions)... and packs of say 2 additional abominations or necromancers so they don't keep getting extra activations from running out... (and seeing the board just swamped with zombies is cool.
I am excited for it. Cant wait to see what guest boxes and stretch goals get added, as well if there are any themed expansions.
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2023/04/04 04:37:56
Subject: Re:CMON N & R - Zombicide White Death (fantasy) KS 5th April 3PM EST
Jason Hendricks is credited as a sculptor so expect some of his crazy Abominations.
Just the one pledge level at $110 (and that's all I'll back for until the PM reveals actual shipping costs although they do seem to have revised them up a bit)
Spoiler:
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2023/04/05 19:20:20
Subject: CMON N & R - Zombicide White Death (fantasy) KS 5th April 3PM EST
Yeah I was not expecting 3 Kingdoms heroes or so many mythological references. They seem to really be leaning into the 'asian' theme and so far all the heroes are great.
I get why people are not thrilled about the furries but they remind me of stories like the legend of the monkey king so it doesn't bother me. Note that so far at least we are getting way more human heroes (and monsters) than we are furries, though who knows where the ratio will be before the campaign ends.
I do however wish the beast-people were more... beastly, they are basically just humans with animal heads, right down to generic 'standing heroically' poses. Seems like a missed opportunity.
2023/04/06 06:41:33
Subject: CMON N & R - Zombicide White Death (fantasy) KS 5th April 3PM EST
Agreed with the antro heroes. The only one I like is the monkey and that's because it looks more natural but the newest tiger is more beast so maybe they've been listening to complaints or just planned to have mixed styles. But this unit could just be a wear-creature which could explain the difference.
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2023/04/06 08:18:01
Subject: Re:CMON N & R - Zombicide White Death (fantasy) KS 5th April 3PM EST
Sure wish the updates would tell the lore the character is based on, because I'm too lazy to do so.
"Byakko is a celestial white tiger. His home is in the western sky. He spans seven of the twenty-eight Chinese constellations, taking up one quarter of the entire sky. The constellation which makes up the rear of the tiger is located in Andromeda and Pisces. The constellations which makes up the middle of the tiger are located in Ares and Taurus. The constellations which makes up his front legs and head are located in Orion."
Maru: "For pronunciation and definitions of 様 – see 樣 (“appearance; form; shape; look; expression; air; etc.”).
So... form of a white tiger. Or maybe there's another obscure reason behind the character, as I can't find an explanation for the Khanra part.
The illustration looks very similar to the Tora character from the Japanese anime, Ushio to Tora. Tora is also a tiger, but not white. He's a yokai, which means he's Japanese, not Chinese. Well, whatever.
"An ancient tiger-like yōkai similar to a Raijū who was released when Ushio pulled off the Beast Spear. Prior to being pinned in the basement of Ushio's temple, he was known as Nagatobimaru, famously feared among the yōkai community for his sheer strength and powers of lightning. Being trapped in the basement for 500 years, he has great curiosity over modern lifestyle and gadgets. His favorite food is hamburgers, which Mayuko always provides when they meet.
Smokestack wrote: Is White Death an Asian setting? The Walkers have the look, and the first survivior is named "Sarnai"... google says:
"Meaning of Sarnai: Name Sarnai in the Mongolian origin, means Rose. Name Sarnai is of Mongolian origin and is a Girl name. People with name Sarnai are usually Buddhism by religion."
I'm liking everything so far... May be the first CMON project I back since Black Plague...
So… the core box did look like game of thrones, or Rus as you guys had mentioned… but all of the stretch goals have been Asian influenced so far. The first one that looked out of place for the setting was Lapu Lapu. I mean he is a cool character and killed Magellan… I could maybe see him traveling to the cold north… but you would think he would pick up a coat and some pants…
All joking aside, this is not what I was picturing based on the ks video or base game. I still like it and will still get it though.
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2023/04/06 22:36:20
Subject: Re:CMON N & R - Zombicide White Death (fantasy) KS 5th April 3PM EST
I am still really excited for this. I like most of the survivors and think this will fit right in with all the Fantasy zombicide I have... which is everything except the comic 2... as the shipping from GA to MD was $40...
* I didnt initially like the anthro figures, but they are growing on me. I especially like the wolf girl.
* I am not a fan of most of the big muscle guys with no shirts and oversized weapons. They will fit fine with all the other survivors. They are no more or less ridiculous than any other survivor, but I am not a fan of them.
* I am glad this didn't add Viking stuff... Viking stuff has been done a lot... I was hoping for more GoT themed stuff, but I am not hating the direction.
* I am glad that the anthro figures dont all have special rules. More complexity is not always a good thing. Hopefully some of their skills help sell the animal nature. We have elves, dwarves and trolls and as a whole they dont have special race rules... we do have a giant though who DOES have special race rules.
* I havent done a CMON kickstarter in a long time. I think Green Horde was the last one I was a part of.
2023/04/07 18:47:57
Subject: Re:CMON N & R - Zombicide White Death (fantasy) KS 5th April 3PM EST
Pretty stoked about this, now that it's live and leaning more into the asian theme than the frozen north theme. Makes me feel like hooking up the old PS2 and playing Dynasty Warriors 3
The Chi mechanic for the expansion is...different. I think I'll just say Chi is magic/magic is Chi for playing the Warden Brutes when I mix in BP/GH. Should be interesting having an enemy spawn that essentially turns everything into Spectral Walkers until defeated
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The heroes/guards/zombies look fantastic! Really great sculpts!
The abominations... they're a mess. Far too busy, hard to tell what's going on, and in some cases difficult to tell if they're dead or not; the damage is too subtle (Exceptions: Red Hare and Hatchiman).
So very good and kinda meh. Dang.
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2023/04/09 18:40:30
Subject: CMON N & R - Zombicide White Death (fantasy) KS 5th April 3PM EST
I don't think all the abominations are supposed to be dead. Some are just monsters. At least that's how it looks to me and I like that. Another nice change up if true.