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Made in au
Regular Dakkanaut






hi all i seem to have a bit of bad luck with my trades recently...

i have sent him

25 plaguebearers and command

i have yet to recieve

15 GNs in power armour
2 dreadnoughts

i have provided him with an invoice:


he deemed this to be "completely lacking in credibility"

i have since provided him with a second invoice:


is this, in your opinion a credible invoice if not why and what else does he need? if so why is it more credible than the first one?Quite frankly iam getting more than annoyed at this guy

if he continues to refuse to mail the GNs i'm seriously considering reporting him to authorities in the USA have you guys gotten any experience with him and or filing a police report overseas?


cheers turkey

   
Made in ca
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23/11/09

Thats only a week so far?
i think give each other 2 week atleast o_o

( USA to Aus right? and vice versa )

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Warplord Titan Princeps of Tzeentch





Pat that askala, O-H-I hate this stupid state

It all depends on what you guys agreed upon. I understand being annoyed but has he recieved the plaguebearers and did you guys agree to send at the same time or something else? You also have to give people a little time.


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It all depends on what you guys agreed upon. I understand being annoyed but has he recieved the plaguebearers and did you guys agree to send at the same time or something else? You also have to give people a little time.

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Made in ca
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$64.85 to ship a squad of plague bearer o_o ( am i reading it right? )

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Made in au
Regular Dakkanaut






we agreed that i would ship first and provide shipping info, then he ships, i have fulfilled my part but he refuses to ship, which is what pisses me off very very badly..... imo he is also really sluggish with responding to pms (48h+) and seems only to reply when i tell him that i will either open a transaction report and or report him to the cops...

edit/ personally i try to get back to people asap, and try to get trades over and good out as good and fast as is possible, i agreed to go first because he was worried because of the magnitude of the trade, i agreed (lesson learned! - never go first again...)

@ luna 10.80 i managed to have it go as a large letter because i used a toughbag for envelope and wrapped the plaguebearers in bubblewrap which kept the letter below 2.5cm ,YAY!

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Made in us
Decrepit Dakkanaut






North of Chicago, IL USA

1. I haven't dealt with either party.
2. For PaintbrushTurkey, Did they not give you a receipt that shows the From/To addresses that they sign or print out for you? (Obviously, don't post that here.) That would be good further proof of shipment to have.
3. Taking 2 days to reply to messages/PMs/Emails is excessive and unprofessional, but not necessarily a sign of delinquency.

Best of luck, man. I hope you can get this resolved.

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Made in au
Regular Dakkanaut






no, regrettably not as iam not about to pay ~50 dollars for insurance that "is no longer applicable once it leaves our shores"

   
Made in us
Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle





Il

have studied the "proof" sent to you and it is not sufficient. The receipt only shows an air mail package being sent from Australia to the US. There is no tracking number nor anything on the receipt to show where the package is being sent in the US. This is not acceptable proof by any stretch of the imagination. All the packages sent by the person to Australian addresses list a postal code but the US letter does not. Also the sender could have easily sent the package with a tracking number which would have eliminated all this mystery. There are clear instructions how to do so on the Australia Post web site. The sender has not met the agreement since he has not sent you any evidence a package has been sent to your address such as a tracking number or a receipt from Australia post listing your zip code.

in addition the reciept shows that 30 plaguebeares weigh .330 kilograms which i severly doubt
if the package comes ill gladly ship it out

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Made in au
Regular Dakkanaut






if you wanted tracked insured then that is your issue, i said i'll provide proof of postage this is what i did... guess there is no other way than to wait it out..... suffices to say that this will be the last time i shall deal with you..., you have a point about the weight, i have no idea why that would be, maybe the scales are wrong? i won't be arguing that means cheaper postage for me :-)

let me know asap when they arrive... - oh and need i say i'm just as unpleased by this as you are....

PS: i'm still of the opinion that you are full of .... well, unpleasant stuff, but then i can finally see your point, so thanks for that

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Made in us
Excellent Exalted Champion of Chaos






Lake Forest, California, South Orange County

federal post such as the USPS only track within their own country. UPS and other international parcel services offer tracking but the cost is sometimes worth more than the package.

If you send models and he does not fulfill his side of the agreement, then you can pursue mail fraud procedures in accordance with your countries laws and those of his.

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Made in gb
Horrific Hive Tyrant





London (work) / Pompey (live, from time to time)

in addition the reciept shows that 30 plaguebeares weigh .330 kilograms which i severly doubt
if the package comes ill gladly ship it out



I dont want to get involved here, but i can confirm that they do weigh around this. (most services add weight, and remember the wrapping adds up too.)
All i would say is that no one judge until something can be done.
For example: Give it 2 weeks.
Not much chance of a US to Aus service dropping off in under a week, that would be pretty amazing.
Keep it civil, keep in contact, it will make life alot easier.

Usually when people do rip someone off they wont go posting on here, let alone on the thread about it.
My advice to you both is just to calm down and take it a step at a time.
Insults and accusations wont get anyone anywhere.

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Made in au
Regular Dakkanaut






no offense or threat was intended i was merely trying to give my dissatisfaction the proper wording..... hence the figure of speach no threat insult whatsoever to the other party was intended.... you mods seem to be quite tetchy around here again no offense is intended if you take any then you shouldn't have read this....


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aerethan wrote:federal post such as the USPS only track within their own country. UPS and other international parcel services offer tracking but the cost is sometimes worth more than the package.

If you send models and he does not fulfill his side of the agreement, then you can pursue mail fraud procedures in accordance with your countries laws and those of his.


thank you kindly for the information, in this case i shall file cases against him in australia and i shall attempt to file one in the us as well...

kind regards tim


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Paintbrushturkey wrote:no offense or threat was intended i was merely trying to give my dissatisfaction the proper wording..... hence the figure of speach no threat insult whatsoever to the other party was intended.... you mods seem to be quite tetchy around here again no offense is intended if you take any then you shouldn't have read this....


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aerethan wrote:federal post such as the USPS only track within their own country. UPS and other international parcel services offer tracking but the cost is sometimes worth more than the package.

If you send models and he does not fulfill his side of the agreement, then you can pursue mail fraud procedures in accordance with your countries laws and those of his.


thank you kindly for the information, in this case i shall file cases against him in australia and i shall attempt to file one in the us as well... that is if we don't get this resolved pronto....

kind regards tim

PS: Yes THIS is a THREAT, if you mods wish to ban me for standing up to my rights so be it, however this is thank god a free country in which i can take any and all steps legally acceptable to protect my rights. (@ mods: This is a fact not a threat)



@ deffskulls if you want i can transfer you 50$ or 100$ or whatever to your paypal account, however you'll have to do the same for me that way we can claim the moneys back if things don't work out for either of us, but please get this stuff sorted NOW, regards tim

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Made in ca
Storm Trooper with Maglight





Toronto, Ontario

aerethan wrote:federal post such as the USPS only track within their own country. UPS and other international parcel services offer tracking but the cost is sometimes worth more than the package.



100% incorrect. All of the packages I've been sent from the US that included tracking have been tracked right up to my door.

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Made in us
Warplord Titan Princeps of Tzeentch





Pat that askala, O-H-I hate this stupid state

Agree with bunker here i sent to Sweden and it had a confirmation code and his also did.

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, its just a freight train coming your way!
Thousand Sons 10000
Grey knights 3000
Sisters of battle 3000
I have 29 sucessful trades where others recommend me.
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Made in au
Regular Dakkanaut






deffskullz wrote:I'm confused what does the paypal have to do with anything? When your things arrive I'll shp mine out in no way am I trying to scam you my only problem I acknowledge i have is my hesisitancy to ship. But once it arrives I'll ship out and provide you with a tracking number, receipt pic, whatever.


wth? just get things shipped

you are asking me to trust you but won't trust me in return -> where were you born mars? moon? some other place? but definetly not earth.....

i mean just consider what you are saying for one second and it will come to you....

just ship my stuff and we'll be able to get this stupid bickering over with

   
Made in ca
Avatar of the Bloody-Handed God





Inactive

Okok settle down you 2.

Just wait for the items to arrive within this week to next week ( average wait time )

And if it didnt arrive , i'll prepare my torch.
If it does arrive , ships his items out with confirmation and tracking etc etc.

No more fighting for now boys!

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Was one of my comments deleted, what the hell?

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Made in au
Regular Dakkanaut






dunno mods don't seem to like this thread much :-)
   
Made in ca
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Paintbrushturkey wrote:dunno mods don't seem to like this thread much :-)

No lol , read this thread alittle and you'll see why :x
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/265968.page
   
Made in au
Regular Dakkanaut






omfg what a failure.... okay deffskullz i take everything back i have ever thrown at you.... your a number 1 trader in comparison, at least you respond to pms, even if it takes 72 hours.... :-P

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Made in us
Devestating Grey Knight Dreadknight






You really should have shipped with a tracking number Paintbrushturkey.

I wouldn't like to ship within my own country w/o a tracking number, much less ship internationally.

Also I have shipped and recieved items internationally and have never been charged extra to have a tracking number. If you don't have a way to track your package here is no way you could even know if it arrived to deffskulls or not. Your package could be hung up in customs for awhile and you would not even know it.

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Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut






It is now required by USPS to use a customs form, which has a tracking number, on ALL packages going Internationally.

Been a requirement for last month+

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Made in au
Regular Dakkanaut






augustus5 wrote:You really should have shipped with a tracking number Paintbrushturkey.

I wouldn't like to ship within my own country w/o a tracking number, much less ship internationally.

Also I have shipped and recieved items internationally and have never been charged extra to have a tracking number. If you don't have a way to track your package here is no way you could even know if it arrived to deffskulls or not. Your package could be hung up in customs for awhile and you would not even know it.


to be frank i'm honest with my dealings and expect the persons i trade with to do the same, auspost are a bunch of greedy sods and will charge you for everything. i have never had any problems with customs as miniatures neither smell of illegal substance nor look like them and are clearly discernable on xray machines...., proof of postage is an invoice, this is what i provided and it is what is commonly accepted, deffskullz is the first person that is making dramas and generally is a friggin pain to deal with. had he told me he wanted it sent insured then i would have sent it insured... also i don't give a damn if it arrives at his place i mailed it and sent him the reciept, if he still refuses to send me the minis that is fraud.....

we have customs fors here in aus, i've never checked if they have tracking numbers on them

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Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut






My bad, I thought you were American. Your icon shows USA.


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Made in au
Regular Dakkanaut






thoughtr i got the mods to fix it !?

   
Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut






Las Vegas

augustus5 wrote:You really should have shipped with a tracking number Paintbrushturkey.

I wouldn't like to ship within my own country w/o a tracking number, much less ship internationally.

Also I have shipped and recieved items internationally and have never been charged extra to have a tracking number. If you don't have a way to track your package here is no way you could even know if it arrived to deffskulls or not. Your package could be hung up in customs for awhile and you would not even know it.


Although I do not see an issue with your overall comment, please understand that your first sentence could be taken in an aggressive/dictatorial tone. We do not like to delete or edit user comments in the Swap Shop but we will if they wander off topic or break Dakka rules and may include locking the thread. This one is on the bubble.

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Made in au
Regular Dakkanaut






no offence was taken and the overall meaning was conveyed, it's just that i have NEVER lost an international parcel.....

i have also NEVER had someone like deffskullz as a trade partner....

   
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Paintbrushturkey wrote:no offence was taken and the overall meaning was conveyed, it's just that i have NEVER lost an international parcel.....

i have also NEVER had someone like deffskullz as a trade partner....

Tracking and Confirmation is also important for your own protection though.

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