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Hello, this is a Warriors list I'm going to play quite soon, there will be some changes eventually (when my second disc and more hounds arrive), but are there any glaring issues with this at the moment?

1 Sorcerer Lord of Tzeentch, Disc, Level 4, Puppet, Goldeneye, Dispel Scroll, Conjoined Homoc @ 415
1 Sorcerer of Tzeentch, Level 2, Book, Dispel Scroll @ 190
1 Exalted Champion of Tzeentch, Collar of Khorne, Sword of Might, Favour, Barded Steed, Shield, Battle Standard @ 216

12 Warriors of Slaanesh, Full Command, Halberds and Shields, Rapturous Standard @ 264
5 Horsemen, MoS, Flails, Light Armour, Musician @ 96
5 Horsemen, MoS, Flails, Light Armour, Musician @ 96
5 Dogs
5 Dogs

5 Knights of Tzeentch, Musician, Standard, Blasted Standard @ 290
5 Knights of Khorne, Musician, Standard @ 260

2 Chaos Spawn @ 110

Total: 1997 points, 47 models

The low model count does disconcert me a little. For the future, I have some more Hounds, another Disc for the sorcerer coming up and 20 marauders from the batallion to build, what should be dropped/added?

Is the equipment ok on the characters?

Going to 2250, shuffling the marks and adding a Hellcannon seems a choice, though it doesn't help the numbers too much.

You may want to try the Blasted Standard on the Warriors unit instead of the knights. Its quite possible the warriors will spend most of the game looking for an opponent, while the knights should be stuck in by turn 2 or turn 3 at worst. Then you can give the TZ knights the Banner of Rage (if you want 2 frenzied knights units).

What about moving the book of shadows to the BSB? Gives you a third option for spell casting.

Hmm, that's true. I could also save 40 and remove the blasted standard altogether?

I quite like the Book on the wizard, eventually I'll be getting another disc, and firing Flickering Fire + Fireball. Also, the BSB is the only combat character, so I'm worried about it diluting his ability there.

I run a 2250 list for WoC and after playing about 8 games with them here are some things I have discovered:

-MoS on the riders seems good if you are going to use them to bait an enemies units then flee and reform. If so give them throwing axes so you can least maybe RNG a guy down with some shooting before you flee. If you are planning to use them to flank machine crews or go after enemy units like dark riders, then give them MoK, LA, Musician and just get them into combat asap. still roughly 100ish pts and with 10 S5 attacks they are great for killing enemy fast cav, archers, and siege crews.

-MoS on the Warriors seems a bid odd to me. It is an inexpensive mark, but all it is doing is giving them immunity to fear/terror since will of chaos handles panic. With their leadership, the hero, and banners, I doubt they will ever fail a leadership test for terror/fear. I only run one block of 13 Warriors with 1 exalted hero (to make 2 lines of 7), but this is how I like to set mine up:

13 Warriors of Chaos (extra HW, shields)
1 Exalted Hero
Both MoK
Magic Banner - Rage (frenzy do not lose it)
BSB on the Hero - the 5+ ward against shooting.
Take full command (Banner, Musician, Champ).

Now that is kinda expensive, but not much more then a full command of knights. The champion you can use the get around having to challenge with your hero in a bad situation. But on the charge you use the extra HW, the unit has 5 x 3, 1 x 4, and the hero gets 5 if i remember attacks. All S4 with the hero S5 I think. That is ALOT of attacks. Combined +2 res from banners, +1 rank, and potentially +1 from outnumber. It is a killing machine. And with -1 to hit from ranged and the 2+ ASV and the 5+ Ward, you can't get shot up very easily.

Drop the banner off the knights imo, they are pretty strong with F/C on their own. They are either going to win or lose combat on their own, the banner isnt going to aid them drastically.

Maybe drop the 2nd Exalted hero for a 2nd sorcerer. Then you can drop the dispel scrolls for more magic. I run 1 Lvl 4 Tzeentch and 2 lvl 2 Tzeentch. Taking the Conjoined Homu and the other miss-cast related item. You can cheeply throw pandaemonium into play at the end of your turn and really rain hell with the misscasts on your opponent. Therefore you don't really need the scrolls imo.


If you want to see my full 2250 latest list just let me know. You may find something I have overlooked that interests u.

You don't have much in the way of holding power. Knights can only do so much, and they're fast, offensive units, not designed for defence! I highly recommend grabbing a block of Warriors to serve as an 'anvil' unit.

mch21689 wrote:
Now that is kinda expensive, but not much more then a full command of knights. The champion you can use the get around having to challenge with your hero in a bad situation.

How does the champion allow you to get around a challenge? The Eye of the Gods rule require that characters issue and accept all challenges.

mch21689 wrote:
13 Warriors of Chaos (extra HW, shields)
1 Exalted Hero
Both MoK
Magic Banner - Rage (frenzy do not lose it)
BSB on the Hero - the 5+ ward against shooting.
Take full command (Banner, Musician, Champ).

Ha, quite the little meatgrinder, that one. Are you buying MoK on both units? You can trim some points by being cheeky and just giving the unit banner o' rage, if you know the exalted is rolling with them all the time:

Exalted - BSB, blasted standard, shield, ahw = 184
13 Warriors - banner of rage, full command, shields, ahw = 286

470 pts is pretty salty, but the concept is at the very least awesome


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RanTheCid wrote:
How does the champion allow you to get around a challenge? The Eye of the Gods rule require that characters issue and accept all challenges.

The champion can call out a challenge faster than the character, which means the exalted can keep his mouth shut. If/when the champ is dead, then the exalted is up and has to challenge.

- Salvage

RanTheCid wrote:

mch21689 wrote:
Now that is kinda expensive, but not much more then a full command of knights. The champion you can use the get around having to challenge with your hero in a bad situation.

How does the champion allow you to get around a challenge? The Eye of the Gods rule require that characters issue and accept all challenges.

Only 1 challenge can be issued per each close combat. Challenge with the champion first, and the hero is unable to issue a challenge for the specific close combat. Can be used to keep like a dryad from forcing you to duel his nettled hero.

One problem with dropping the banners on the knights is model-wise.

The Blasted Stantard on the Tzeentch knights worked well for me in my last game (against Empire).

The reason I put the MoS on the Warriors is due to Fear, which caused problems for me against the Skaven. Previously I had MoT there though.

Last game, the Hounds screening the Khorne knights got shot up, and ended up being led around by Fast Cavalry the entire game.