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Choas Possessed!

Savnock wrote:Okay, does anyone have anything to say about the Spearhead _rules_? All this treadhead weenie-waving is hilarious and all, but perhaps someone out there can dilute it with info about what will be in the WD (and thanks to whoever can- I've been drooling over this idea for some time).

Already posted it a few pages ago, but it got buried in the tank-spam:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/180/294106.page#1563882

Scottywan82 wrote:That price tag is mad heavy though. And it's currently missing a few option I would like to see. Perhaps things like an E-radiatior Cannon and a Punishing Gun? It's a good size tank though. Beefier than the LRBT by far which is cool.

Did you purposefully name the two worst variants? Well, okay, maybe two of the three worst variants, since the Vanquisher is the absolute worst... but they still both suck.

I do like the look of the tank quite a bit, but you also have to consider that the size makes sponsons harder to use, plus creates maneuvering/cover difficulties. Could someone link me to the guy's site? If it was linked already, I'm having trouble finding it in all the clutter.

http://www.heavy-support.com/

There might be some connection problems, caused by Denic today.

Yeah, after shipping to the US, it comes out to a few dollars over $100 for a single tank!

ShumaGorath wrote:But I thought only the good units got new plastic kits?

There's a big difference between what they think is a good unit, and what actually is a good unit.

I am so excited for June 5th. However I still can't decide manticore or deathstrike?

The Night Stalker wrote: I am so excited for June 5th. However I still can't decide manticore or deathstrike?

The answer you are looking for is: Ork Stormboyz that use the Manticore rockets as their jump pack. The Nob gets the Deathstrike.

I must say that even though I didn't like the prism at all at first, it has started to grow on me. I'm probably going to get a few as it's a very interesting unit to field

Oh, And I'm stealing that quote, Kirasu. Couldn't help my self laughing

Do anybody have a general idea what the Night Spinner would be? Fire Prism is great, bu I want to know more about the new vehicle...

ryanstartalker wrote:Do anybody have a general idea what the Night Spinner would be? Fire Prism is great, bu I want to know more about the new vehicle...

From what I can recall, it's a TL S6 AP - rending? large blast that sticks around for a turn and counts as dangerous terrain.

Um... Not so bad for mission against light infantry... But does it have the chance to kill terminator-level threat, based on this data? Dangerous terrain, rending, and blast...

The Night Stalker wrote: I am so excited for June 5th. However I still can't decide manticore or deathstrike?

Well, it's basically a decision of "best artillery tank IG has available" or "very fun little toy that is not the least bit competitive but still is very fun".

Illumini wrote:

Sageheart wrote:i really like the deathstrike missile launcher! i'm totally going to find a way to get one.


but has anyone noticed the lack of that "free model" tanks gave you? you use to get the tank crew character that could be put on a stand and i thought was cool to have as an adviser of some sorts. now they aren't there and can only be bought on the bitz section of the website. am i wrong about this?

The free guy is for the basilisk I believe. I can understand why they would not include him on a close topped tank. He is still in the basilisk box, right?

i didn't know if he only came in that set. my friend just had a bunch of them, and only one basilisk but a bunch of other tanks. i assumed that it came in all tank sets but i don't know. he could have gotten them a different way, people tend to give him models once and a while.

The problem is that I think the Fire prism can do the night spinners work almost as good as the night spinner, and then some!

The Nightspinner doesn't impress me that much... but if it reads AP- then... meh. I face to much MEQ to allow armour saves.

Enigma wrote:The problem is that I think the Fire prism can do the night spinners work almost as good as the night spinner, and then some!

And that is the problem.

OTOH, if each NS drops at least 2 large 5" templates, then it will make up in quantity of hits what it lacks in quality.

Heck, I could see *each* NS gun dropping a barrage of d3 small 3" templates, for a total of 2d3 small 3" blasts per tank. Make them affordable as a squadron of 3, and you'd have 6d3 small 3" blasts total. That's the kind of serious anti-horde blanket coverage that FPs simply can't match, while still keeping FPs well-tailored for the non-horde targets that they excel against.

The only real "problem" is NS is only S6 against Mech, but with enough hits on something, eventually, it gets a Rear armor.

I knew new support platform was coming since they suddenly stopped selling the old one here. I like the new design and the price is cool... Regarding the crew I guess rules will be solved in the upcoming codex (whever it will come).

Now I can only wish for the new jetbikes

I'd love to see the Night Spinner get some love. But I think it'll be hard as the Fire Prisms gun is pretty good at both hordes and armour... It might not be as accurate as a twin linked gun, but still not far from... :/

Enigma wrote:It might not be as accurate as a twin linked gun

...unless you have two Fire Prisms

haha, indeed, but then I could as well have two Night spinners

Not as powerful, but more hits

I'd have been much happier if they'd have dedicated the effort of a new Eldar tank to bringing a Scorpion out for us in plastic. Would have been a better idea for the players and for the company, IMO.

Ah well, the new Prism does look nifty. But I won't be shelling out $50 a pop just for a new look. The money I'd spend on upgrading my 3 Prisms almost gets me another Forgeworld Scorpion to add to my list.

Farseer Faenyin wrote:I'd have been much happier if they'd have dedicated the effort of a new Eldar tank to bringing a Scorpion out for us in plastic.

Amen to that. I'd have bought a few.

This is kind of off topic, but, the IG shadowsword/stormlord kit, seen here:

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1860243&rootCatGameStyle=

Would it be possible to magnetize/ swap out the turrets? or do they force you to build it as one or the other.

I wouldlove to see a plastic Scorpion... I love the Mk II...
@ Micahaphone: I think you can swap them... could need a bit extra modelling though, not too sure. there's a WD where they guide you through the assembly of one of those super-heavies... nr... (runs and have a look) ...335
It looks doable, not too hard either, but I've never built one of those before, so don't take my word for granted

Oops! Just noticed, that guide was for the Baneblade, not the Stormsword!

micahaphone wrote:This is kind of off topic, but, the IG shadowsword/stormlord kit, seen here:

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1860243&rootCatGameStyle=

Would it be possible to magnetize/ swap out the turrets? or do they force you to build it as one or the other.

From what I recall after buidling my Stormhammer, unless you make a Stormhammer, you can build any of the other Shadowsword type variants, so long as it isn't one of the transport types. The hull on the Stormhammer types is forward a bit too much. The biggest problem from what I can remember is the cannon itself. The vulcan mega bolter won't be swappable with the 'standard cannon' types such as the quake cannon and volcano cannon. Hope that answers your question.

It's all swappable - just some swaps are harder than others...

I've been thinking of swapping weapons on the new Eldar tanks with magnets (which Eldar-player hasn't?) but it doesn't look like it'll be as easy as I first thought. The Prism barrell seem to connect to the turret by a cone shaped piece. As if it's supposed to be inserted to the turret, not just glued on...
This might take some modelling after all...

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Sarigar wrote:I'm not sure what GW was thinking with the release of the Eldar Support Weapon platform kit. Since 5th edition, those went back in everyone's carrying cases.

Do you think they know and/or care?

They should at least pretend to want to be profitable with their releases. But, are they aware that the vast majority of Eldar players shelved support platforms; the proof is there with a shiny new kit that very few folks will purchase.

imho i quite like the new tank designs, i d think the leman russ need a design change id like it to look like a modrn battle tank a bit lower slung and a larger turret.
i heard rumors that the sm's were to get a super heavy, has anyone heard anything? if its true i imagine it'll be a land raider with a demolisher cannon or something unimaginative.

Land Raiders are not super-heavies.