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Don't do that to me, implanting funny thoughts like that. Fallout pre-order is in summer. Summer lasts until September 22, 23:59, last time zone on the planet, somewhere in the furthest corner of the pacific, two seconds away from tomorrow. I just know it!

Will there be alternate head bits packs so we can customise the looks of our Sole Survivor like in the game? If so, I'd like to make a few suggestions...

Jesus they put up some good looking minis and you want them to sell those lol.
Good idea about different head swaps mind.

Geifer wrote:

 Pacific wrote:
I think it's a difficult balancing act. Pack the box full of plastic terrain, the price starts to multiply, and I'm sure most purchasers look at the miniatures (and the quality and quantity thereof) before terrain. Resin is an absolute no-go as far as a starter set is concerned, any kind of quality would push up the price very high.

Is there actually going to be such an all inclusive starter set (regardless if it's one or two player oriented)? Because I wouldn't mind if there was.

Man, pre-orders can't go online soon enough. The wait is killing me.

Yes there will be a 2 player starter set with pre-assembled minis (in two colours of plastic) likely in a hardened PVC - BUT I'll stress that you'll already be able to get those same minis in high quality resin so this box set is aimed at people who aren't necessarily wargamers, who don't mind the difference, and who want to be able to play out of the box.

Finally.

 modiphius wrote:

Geifer wrote:

 Pacific wrote:
I think it's a difficult balancing act. Pack the box full of plastic terrain, the price starts to multiply, and I'm sure most purchasers look at the miniatures (and the quality and quantity thereof) before terrain. Resin is an absolute no-go as far as a starter set is concerned, any kind of quality would push up the price very high.

Is there actually going to be such an all inclusive starter set (regardless if it's one or two player oriented)? Because I wouldn't mind if there was.

Man, pre-orders can't go online soon enough. The wait is killing me.

Yes there will be a 2 player starter set with pre-assembled minis (in two colours of plastic) likely in a hardened PVC - BUT I'll stress that you'll already be able to get those same minis in high quality resin so this box set is aimed at people who aren't necessarily wargamers, who don't mind the difference, and who want to be able to play out of the box.

Cool option for beginners to be sure. Depending on the kind of plastic, I might even be interested myself. And if it's just to see about the plastic quality myself. As long as it's not bendy Reaper plastic, that could be quite a useful set.

Thats a great idea catering to both groups of purchasers

Wait.. What was that about Star Trek?! :O

http://www.modiphius.com/star-trek.html

 modiphius wrote:

Geifer wrote:

 Pacific wrote:
I think it's a difficult balancing act. Pack the box full of plastic terrain, the price starts to multiply, and I'm sure most purchasers look at the miniatures (and the quality and quantity thereof) before terrain. Resin is an absolute no-go as far as a starter set is concerned, any kind of quality would push up the price very high.

Is there actually going to be such an all inclusive starter set (regardless if it's one or two player oriented)? Because I wouldn't mind if there was.

Man, pre-orders can't go online soon enough. The wait is killing me.

Yes there will be a 2 player starter set with pre-assembled minis (in two colours of plastic) likely in a hardened PVC - BUT I'll stress that you'll already be able to get those same minis in high quality resin so this box set is aimed at people who aren't necessarily wargamers, who don't mind the difference, and who want to be able to play out of the box.

I'm certain you have it covered, but be careful of shrinkage in PVC vs resin or metal. Don't want to end up with the same figure being two different sizes. Also, nobody wants a repeat of Sedition Wars Wave 2... /shudder

Really can't wait to get my hands on this stuff.

~Eric

 modiphius wrote:

Geifer wrote:

 Pacific wrote:
I think it's a difficult balancing act. Pack the box full of plastic terrain, the price starts to multiply, and I'm sure most purchasers look at the miniatures (and the quality and quantity thereof) before terrain. Resin is an absolute no-go as far as a starter set is concerned, any kind of quality would push up the price very high.

Is there actually going to be such an all inclusive starter set (regardless if it's one or two player oriented)? Because I wouldn't mind if there was.

Man, pre-orders can't go online soon enough. The wait is killing me.

Yes there will be a 2 player starter set with pre-assembled minis (in two colours of plastic) likely in a hardened PVC - BUT I'll stress that you'll already be able to get those same minis in high quality resin so this box set is aimed at people who aren't necessarily wargamers, who don't mind the difference, and who want to be able to play out of the box.

Will there be an equivalent 2-player 'out of the box' set with resin models, or will people wanting resin have to buy the factions, rules and any extra bits in the box game separately?

By PVC, do you mean the same plastic that Zombicide the Black Plague is made out of? I'm painting up my friend's Black Plague core set as a sort-of *practice commission* and MY GOD DO THE BENDY SWORDS MAKE MY SKIN CRAWL.

*(my first time painting miniatures "on commission", he pays me £10 per character and £15 per batch of 7 zombies)

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
By PVC, do you mean the same plastic that Zombicide the Black Plague is made out of? I'm painting up my friend's Black Plague core set as a sort-of *practice commission* and MY GOD DO THE BENDY SWORDS MAKE MY SKIN CRAWL.

*(my first time painting miniatures "on commission", he pays me £10 per character and £15 per batch of 7 zombies)

Heck even warmahored pvc

please god no.

but since it sounds like there will be resin i will be picking up that.

Geifer wrote:

 modiphius wrote:

Geifer wrote:

 Pacific wrote:
I think it's a difficult balancing act. Pack the box full of plastic terrain, the price starts to multiply, and I'm sure most purchasers look at the miniatures (and the quality and quantity thereof) before terrain. Resin is an absolute no-go as far as a starter set is concerned, any kind of quality would push up the price very high.

Is there actually going to be such an all inclusive starter set (regardless if it's one or two player oriented)? Because I wouldn't mind if there was.

Man, pre-orders can't go online soon enough. The wait is killing me.

Yes there will be a 2 player starter set with pre-assembled minis (in two colours of plastic) likely in a hardened PVC - BUT I'll stress that you'll already be able to get those same minis in high quality resin so this box set is aimed at people who aren't necessarily wargamers, who don't mind the difference, and who want to be able to play out of the box.

Cool option for beginners to be sure. Depending on the kind of plastic, I might even be interested myself. And if it's just to see about the plastic quality myself. As long as it's not bendy Reaper plastic, that could be quite a useful set.

Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:By PVC, do you mean the same plastic that Zombicide the Black Plague is made out of? I'm painting up my friend's Black Plague core set as a sort-of *practice commission* and MY GOD DO THE BENDY SWORDS MAKE MY SKIN CRAWL.

No it will be a hardened PVC - you could say more like the Walking Dead minis as a guide. That's what we're aiming for anyway. No bendy laser rifles here....

Now we will likely do a 2 player starter bundle in the pre-order so it's a good deal on getting two starter sets etc. In retail we'll see what we can do - I think we'd prefer people can buy the factions they want rather than force a set on everyone. The Plastic 2 player set is really aimed at people who just want to get it quickly and it's got everything you need.

The Walking Dead miniatures are exceptional. If these will be the same then we have nothing to fear (and definitely no bendy swords, baseball bats wrapped in barbed-wire)

 Pacific wrote:
The Walking Dead miniatures are exceptional. If these will be the same then we have nothing to fear (and definitely no bendy swords, baseball bats wrapped in barbed-wire)

That's what we're aiming for. Over on the Wasteland Warfare Facebook page we're running a couple of surveys about what scenics and buildings people would like to see prior to a big survey going out to everyone who's signed up
https://www.facebook.com/groups/113493429210346/

Modiphius has put up a link to a survey on their Fallout page, for anyone interested in providing input:

http://www.modiphius.com/fallout.html

Personal note: Yay, Enclave! And Raiders!

Filled it out, and am rather impressed by what it entailed, Modiphius really do seem to be open to feedback and have covered all the bases of stuff I'd want to see represented.

I don't know how feasible Hard Plastic production will be, but given that it's on the survey, I hope they're open to it if there's enough interest. Even just a sprue of 3-4 modular-ish grunt minis per faction with characters/specials in resin would be awesome and really help the game grow, I think.

Agreed. I honestly prefer plastic (I like resin models well enough and at the end of the day, it's a matter of quality) and was surprised to see the plastic options in there. I hope a vote for hard plastic, if nothing else, will be taken as a vote against soft plastic, not a vote against resin, if hard plastic is not popular enough to be an option. I know Modiphius has stated in this thread that the plastic in the starter set will be hardened, but for me it's worth going on a crusade. I just find soft plastic such a poor choice of material (again, a general statement and not directly aimed at Modiphius).

Geifer you are not alone. I despise soft plastic as well. I find it very difficult to work with.

I would love to see hard plastic minis for this range but I am not against resin if it is done by the people who handle Hawk Wargames stuff.

For me:

1) HIPs
2) Resin
3) Metal

and a distant, distant 4) would be 'PVC'.

 Alpharius wrote:
For me:

1) HIPs
2) Resin
3) Metal

and a distant, distant 4) would be 'PVC'.

I'm pretty much the same. Though I prefer well sculpted single pose resin, it's just a matter of a) the expense and b) of they'd produce sufficient variety of poses which means that HIPs it's usually a safer bet

As I said, I prefer HIPS (with resin as a good substitute), but as far as my experience goes, you have to take advantage of the medium or it's pointless. Wild West Exodus and Malifaux (to use examples I have personal experience with) have plastic sprues with nicely detailed models, but zero assembly options. Parts A1 through A7 go together to make model A, and so forth. In such a case, I really see no point in having plastic models at all. Unless you as the manufacturer sell tons, resin is just as good, or so it is said. For me as the customer that is definitely true. Plastic models shine if you get various assembly options. Extra heads, armor parts, pouches and weapons, different arms, separate body parts for posability.

The ultimate goal should be to have enough options to assemble a greater variety of models than the number of models in the box, or else you could just make resin models.

I've a suggestion for terrain, how about highway billboards that come with the Fallout 4 billboard designs printed onto card inserts that you can slot in after painting it?

That would be a great idea, and very easy to implement. Just do as some historicals and other games have done with banners and the like, have some PDFs on the website that you can download, print off and then just stick onto them.

Definitely great news that Modiphius are aiming for TWD quality miniatures, very promising!

Billboards are a great idea. While they have little gameplay value, they're great mood setters and enrich the tabletop with some proper Fallout flavor. Plus, hi-res Nuka-Girl.

Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:I've a suggestion for terrain, how about highway billboards that come with the Fallout 4 billboard designs printed onto card inserts that you can slot in after painting it?

The pre-printed cardboard sets will come with some cool signage, and yes we're thinking of resin kits that let you add billboards and other Fallout related tech to existing buildings in your collection

OK...at this point I think it might be easier to ask...what are you not doing?


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 modiphius wrote:

Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:I've a suggestion for terrain, how about highway billboards that come with the Fallout 4 billboard designs printed onto card inserts that you can slot in after painting it?

The pre-printed cardboard sets will come with some cool signage, and yes we're thinking of resin kits that let you add billboards and other Fallout related tech to existing buildings in your collection

I've been using a mix of scratch built terrain, plastic kits (Mantic Games' brick ruins) and resin scatter terrain (Armorcast and Kraken Wargames kickstarter) but what I'm lacking is stuff that is distinctly and instantly recognizable as Fallout.

Things like billboards, cars tanks and vertibirds, vending machines, Pulowski preservation shelters, Red Rocket, billboard printouts, Nuka Cola (and hopefully Sunset Sarsaparilla given that we're setting our campaign in Nevada and Arizona) is exactly what I need.

So I'm probably most looking forward to is terrain.

Beasts of War did a nice interview during UK Games Expo:




First three or four minutes is Star Trek RPG (Borg models? count me in ), the rest of the video is Fallout.

Is that the first real, definite confirmation there will be a Liberty Prime model? Hehe. Oh boy, I need a fatman or three.

Good to see they're stressing the timetable hasn't changed and Bethesda isn't giving them undue trouble before greenlighting stuff. I hate those endless delays licensing occasionally comes with.

Possibly available at Essen? Hmmm our company is sponsoring the event this year... I wonder if that means we all get free tickets?

It sounds like a very flexible system. My one query would be the solo and wasteland cards that will be coming with every box of miniatures though. Are these going to only be useful to the models in the box, or is this going to be like x-wing where you may need to pick up some miniatures you don't necessarily want in order to get some event cards that you do?

Fallout Tabletop game? That´s great news! Will there also be those lovely mutated animals/critters? Can´t wait to paint Brahmin, Bloatflies, Molerats, Radscorpions, Mirelurks, etc. The lone survivor (male/female) should also be available with a Mad Max vibe: Leather Jacket and sawed-off shotgun. Nukagirl is defintely a must-have.

There should also be a mini-campaign for solo-play: Helping Moira in her research to write that epic wasteland survival guide. You will have to collect mines, monitor mirelurks, fetch food from the local Super Duper Mart, become irradiated and whatnot. Irradiated? It wouldn´t be Fallout, if your guys/gals don´t run the risk of severe irradiation and as a consequence becoming a feral ghoul.

What kind of wargear apart from weapons and armour will be included in the game? Do you need a "ganger" with a Chemist perk to get access to Nuka Cola variants and drugs (Buffout, Jet, Psycho, etc.)? Can your "gangers" become addicted to drugs?

If the campaign mode will be anything like Necromunda, then there is a lot of potential to customize your "gangers" with weapon & armour upgrades. Please also include an XP system with an extensive perk and permanent injury mechanic.