Spartan Games company closure - sold to Warcradle

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**Ruckdog**

legoburner wrote:
Today I believe, but announcements will be up to the parties involved. Just what I've head on the grapevine.

The impending sale checks with what I've been hearing as well,though it sounds like your info is more up to date than mine. Looking forward to the announcements!

**Overread**

Anyone heard anything?

**Soulless**

I just want to mention that having paid my pledge through PayPal, I was protected by PayPals policy and got a full refund for the entire amount from them!

PayPal, simply put, is awesome!

**warboss**

That's odd as iirc Paypal changed their policy and specifically excluded crowdfunding from the list of protectable purchases last year (unless your kickstarter may have concluded prior to their annoucement). In any case, congrats!

**Soulless**

I did a late pledge in march this year so idk.
I did look through PayPals policies before filing the complaint though and found nothing indicating crowdfunding wouldnt be included in their protection.

Had PayPal not deemed it applicable I could have tried filing the same issue with my cardsupplier since they too offer extensive protection.

Whatever the case im good and happe for it

Still sad to see Dystopian Wars die though :/

**warboss**

Soulless wrote:
I did a late pledge in march this year so idk.
I did look through PayPals policies before filing the complaint though and found nothing indicating crowdfunding wouldnt be included in their protection.

Had PayPal not deemed it applicable I could have tried filing the same issue with my cardsupplier since they too offer extensive protection.

Whatever the case im good and happe for it
Still sad to see Dystopian Wars die though :/

Did you do the late pledge directly with Spartan and specifically NOT through kickstarter? If so, that might be why as they may have treated it as a normal purchase instead. In any case, here is what I was referring to:

http://fortune.com/2016/05/08/paypal-to-drop-purchase-protection-for-crowdfunding-projects/

**Kid_Kyoto**

I'm realizing I will really miss Dystopian Wars and hope it gets picked up.

As it happens a few months ago I downloaded a pile of images from their site, pictures currently unavailable I believe.

I uploaded them here:

https://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/images-518-34643_Dystopian%20Wars%20and%20Legions%20%28Spartan%29.html

Lots of cool quirky models

Maybe I should do a mourning thread.

**Mmmpi**

Those are cool!

**Brian2112**

I just received this email:

"Wayland Games Ltd (Buyer) purchased certain assets of Rebel Publishing Ltd (trading as Spartan Games) on Friday 22nd September 2017 and we note that you are currently listed on Rebel Publishing Limited's (Seller) customer database for the purpose of receiving details of products and/or services from the Seller.

Your personal data has been transferred to the Buyer for the continued provision of the details of such products and/or services to you. The Buyer will process your personal data fairly and lawfully in accordance with the principles of the Data Protection Act 1998 for the sole purpose of continuing to provide such details to you...

Yours sincerely,
Wayland Games"

**Desubot**

Brian2112 wrote:
I just received this email:

"Wayland Games Ltd (Buyer) purchased certain assets of Rebel Publishing Ltd (trading as Spartan Games) on Friday 22nd September 2017 and we note that you are currently listed on Rebel Publishing Limited's (Seller) customer database for the purpose of receiving details of products and/or services from the Seller.

Your personal data has been transferred to the Buyer for the continued provision of the details of such products and/or services to you. The Buyer will process your personal data fairly and lawfully in accordance with the principles of the Data Protection Act 1998 for the sole purpose of continuing to provide such details to you...

Yours sincerely,
Wayland Games"

Just got it too. never going to use their UK based service here in the US so they just got ripped for whatever my data was worth

**Valander**

Just got an official one from Wayland, too, so looks like that's the deal.

We have some great news from Warcradle Studios!

We are proud to announce that we have acquired all rights and materials relating to the Dystopian Wars, Firestorm Armada and Uncharted Seas settings.

Dystopian Wars, Dystopian Legions, Armoured Clash, Firestorm Armada, Firestorm Planetfall and Uncharted Seas were created by the team at Spartan Games and we are excited to now be able to explore these settings further. We will also be developing and expanding on a large number of exciting scenic products to support these ranges.

We are actively working to bring the games to a wide audience from next year. Through Warcradle Studios, Wayland Games will be investing in all aspects of the design, development and supply of these worlds.

We are committed to producing an exciting range of new plastic and resin miniatures to support the growth of our games. These will build on the established releases as well as introduce new narrative and competitive gaming opportunities.

We are planning in-store organised play support for our games as well as a range of exciting events planned throughout 2018 and beyond.

Look out for our announcements of new products and show attendance in the coming weeks!

Might be good. Seems like they've done some good work to get Wild West Exodus 2.0 out there.

**NTRabbit**

I wonder if they'll try and reach out to KS backers? They're not under any obligation to but, again, like what happened with The Doom that came to Atlantic City, it'd be a good gesture to draw back some previous customers.

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

slightly surprised that all of the ranges went to a single home as flitting between systems seems to have been part of the reason they ended up in trouble,

but hopefully Warcradle do well with them

**NTRabbit**

What they've listed above is really only 5 games though, if you consider Armored clash to just be an alternative way to play with the dw minis, which isn't all that much to deal with if you manage your people correctly. Spartan just didn't seem to manage their time or resources all that well, and they had the two HALO games on top of that, plus there was the Spaceship equivalent to Armoured Clash, and they'd been working on a space fighter game that fit into the X-Wing market segment.

**Overread**

I'm glad that a bigger name like Wayland picked them up and was able to get all the titles under one roof. That Wayland is UK based as well means there's a chance that some of the original team could be picked up as well to work on the games - designers and the like.

Even if not glad that its got a good home and hopefully in the new year we can see the titles return to sale and development

**Sarus**

Just had this email as well. Intrigued to wait and see how all this develops now. Especially since they mentioned Uncharted Seas as well. My local group always enjoyed that more than some of the other Spartan games and when the support dropped it killed a lot of interest in trying the others.

**Overread**

It sounds like Wayland simply bought up Spartan lock-stock-and-barrel. Uncharted always had huge potential, but being the first game their resin casting wasn't the best early one and clearly the improved resin and rules of Dystopian Wars took storn and left Uncharted in the dust.

If Uncharted can be pushed out in good time it could preempt an attempt by GW to bring Man O War back (considering how GW has brought back a good few other older smaller games its not a stretch to think that they could bring that back as well in time).

**Vertrucio**

Uncharted Lands might also be a thing.

**Kid_Kyoto**

Warcradle has started a new thread so I'm shutting this one.

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/740618.page