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They look about the same/ a tiny bit better in terms of detail as minis in Mansions of Madness 2nd ed(which is done by FFG as well). And as much as I love MoM2ed, it's not a high praise. Mantic is ahead of the game compared to SW legion, the way I see it.
Imho, FFG are trying to make SW legion as a game suitable for both: war gamers and boardgamers. And it seems to me, CMON are far ahead in this nieche with more impressive minis (for wargamers) and no assembly required (for boardgamers)
Due to the nature of board gaming models, their quality is almost always worse compared to the evergrowing standards of the wargaming world (wyrd, GW, Mierce, Corvus Beli, CMON, even PP). And SW legion quality looks pretty much "boardgame" to me.
   
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CMON produces good board game models. I wouldn't use most for anything else.

I can't blame FFG for taking the cheaper route here for this. If they only do basic "Luke and Rebels vs. Vader and Stormtroopers", I don't really see this having any lasting impact after six months.

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https://blacksixredseven.blogspot.com/2018/02/new-star-wars-legion-unboxing-videos.html

Scale image here of the AT-ST compared with a 40k imperial knight, dreadnought etc. The AT-ST is definitely an impressive centerpiece model, its friggin big....and for it's price it's almost a must have considering it looks more menacing than the imperial knight.

 
   
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Wow! I wasn't expecting it to be that big. How much does it cost?

 Crimson Devil wrote:

Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

ERJAK wrote:
Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.

 
   
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 Galas wrote:
Wow! I wasn't expecting it to be that big. How much does it cost?


40 USD from most discount sellers, regular retail with tax might come to around 55 dollars or something like that.

 
   
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 Galas wrote:
Wow! I wasn't expecting it to be that big. How much does it cost?


RRP is $50.
   
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Wow. Yeah, for that price, in €, and with a Discount... is very tempting, and I don't even like star wars that much

 Crimson Devil wrote:

Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

ERJAK wrote:
Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.

 
   
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Aeneades wrote:
 Galas wrote:
Wow! I wasn't expecting it to be that big. How much does it cost?


RRP is $50.


Wow, that's surpringly very reasonable for something other than a boxed game from FFG. It's almost the size of the Tantive IV for xwing and that was almost double albeit it comes painted obviously.

   
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 Thargrim wrote:
https://blacksixredseven.blogspot.com/2018/02/new-star-wars-legion-unboxing-videos.html

Scale image here of the AT-ST compared with a 40k imperial knight, dreadnought etc. The AT-ST is definitely an impressive centerpiece model, its friggin big....and for it's price it's almost a must have considering it looks more menacing than the imperial knight.


Dear god...imagine how big an AT-AT would be.
   
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I'm personally hoping they never make the AT-AT, it would be a pain to play with and use in the game. I'd imagine it would be 1/3rd or even half the length of the playing area. Unless you plan on playing on the entire floor of a room I don't see it having space to move anywhere or do anything. The AT-ST is a fine centerpiece model, i'd rather see the AT-DP, the imperial rogue one tank, etc.

 
   
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 Thargrim wrote:
I'm personally hoping they never make the AT-AT, it would be a pain to play with and use in the game.


Hold my beer.



Not me in the pic but rather my opponent for the apoc game. I used it as a Tau warlord titan back in 5th ed.

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Is that a Halo Scarab?
   
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If they make an ATAT then I will probably get one as a display model. I agree it might be a bit big for game play. I am glad I preordered the ATST. After seeing the comparison to the smaller one FFG makes I was sold. Seeing it now with a real comparison makes me happy i pulled the trigger.
   
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Oh man.... that AT-ST is a beast!

Must acquire for shelf.


 
   
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 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
Is that a Halo Scarab?


Yup, it is. It's the most ridiculously impractical and impressive add-on to a Heroclix game of all things in gaming.

   
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I am impressed by the miniatures quality and size! I think Legion is gonna be a hit, I'll personally stick with Imperial Assault and X-Wing for my SW fix (one wargame, 40k/HH, is well enough for me) but good to see FFG producing quality models.

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We'll find out soon enough eh.

Honestly with the infantry at this scale, the AT-ST is about as big as you'd want vehicles to go. AT-ATs are more like terrain in 28mm than usable models.

Actually, you know, that would be a great candidate for an MDF kit. AT-AT's are nearly all angles and blocks, lots of flat surfaces with panel detailing, and if you're using it as terrain the legs can be static. Shame it probably won't happen.

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SnotlingPimpWagon wrote:
They look about the same/ a tiny bit better in terms of detail as minis in Mansions of Madness 2nd ed(which is done by FFG as well). And as much as I love MoM2ed, it's not a high praise. Mantic is ahead of the game compared to SW legion, the way I see it.
Imho, FFG are trying to make SW legion as a game suitable for both: war gamers and boardgamers. And it seems to me, CMON are far ahead in this nieche with more impressive minis (for wargamers) and no assembly required (for boardgamers)
Due to the nature of board gaming models, their quality is almost always worse compared to the evergrowing standards of the wargaming world (wyrd, GW, Mierce, Corvus Beli, CMON, even PP). And SW legion quality looks pretty much "boardgame" to me.


I own all of the Mansions of Madness 2nd Edition stuff and have seen the Legion models up close and personal at Gencon. The detail on the Legion minis is much, much better than the MoM minis. I also have a fair amount of Mantic stuff. I would characterize Mantic as below Legion quality. Mantic may have changed, but the models I've purchased have always been disappointing. Maybe it's the scale. Mantic stuff is generally smaller, so it holds less detail.

My opinion, having held the models at Gencon, is that they're below GW's newer stuff in quality, but well above board game level. I think people just need to get their hands on the models and see the quality for themselves.

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If they did an AT-AT I'd expect it to have a removeable top and a handle so it could double as an army transport. Of course, it would also likely cost so many points that you wouldn't have any other models in your army in need of transportation....
   
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No AT-AT, but if Armada is any indicator, I wouldn't be surprised if there was a Star Wars Battlelore game coming out.

   
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 warboss wrote:
 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
Is that a Halo Scarab?


Yup, it is. It's the most ridiculously impractical and impressive add-on to a Heroclix game of all things in gaming.


I was always more than a bit upset that they made that ing scarab but never a Wraith or Scorpion battle tank

On topic, this stuff is not looking good for the wallet, those unboxings show they're plenty well detailed. REALLY hoping my Infinity escalation league holds my interest away from this long enough to get over New&Shiny syndrome

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So a friend and I are still tentatively looking at this, could be fun.

If we did start it up I think I'd use Snow Troopers mostly. But paint them up in the colors of the Galactic Marines, because old Cannon mentioned the Imperials still having those floating around. That way it makes sense for my Snow Troopers to be everywhere.
   
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 Kriswall wrote:
SnotlingPimpWagon wrote:
They look about the same/ a tiny bit better in terms of detail as minis in Mansions of Madness 2nd ed(which is done by FFG as well). And as much as I love MoM2ed, it's not a high praise. Mantic is ahead of the game compared to SW legion, the way I see it.
Imho, FFG are trying to make SW legion as a game suitable for both: war gamers and boardgamers. And it seems to me, CMON are far ahead in this nieche with more impressive minis (for wargamers) and no assembly required (for boardgamers)
Due to the nature of board gaming models, their quality is almost always worse compared to the evergrowing standards of the wargaming world (wyrd, GW, Mierce, Corvus Beli, CMON, even PP). And SW legion quality looks pretty much "boardgame" to me.


I own all of the Mansions of Madness 2nd Edition stuff and have seen the Legion models up close and personal at Gencon. The detail on the Legion minis is much, much better than the MoM minis. I also have a fair amount of Mantic stuff. I would characterize Mantic as below Legion quality. Mantic may have changed, but the models I've purchased have always been disappointing. Maybe it's the scale. Mantic stuff is generally smaller, so it holds less detail.

My opinion, having held the models at Gencon, is that they're below GW's newer stuff in quality, but well above board game level. I think people just need to get their hands on the models and see the quality for themselves.

34 days and counting.


Well the repacks of MOM 1st ed stuff is worse, than 2ed (thank god). But if your assesment is on point, I guess FFG should fire their painter, because he did no favours to the Legion minis shown on their website
   
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Fun fact:

You can now buy Star Wars: The Last Jedi action figures cheaper than you can Legion models.

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"I am Inquisitor Adeptus Doritos and I am far more important than anything you could ever conceive of doing at this, or any other, moment in time! Im not just some random pleb that someone made up on a whim. Im just as important as Karazamabob or any of those other lordy lordys."
 
   
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 Adeptus Doritos wrote:
Fun fact:

You can now buy Star Wars: The Last Jedi action figures cheaper than you can Legion models.


Probably because the Legion Models look better than the Last Jedi action figures.
   
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We'll find out soon enough eh.

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
So a friend and I are still tentatively looking at this, could be fun.

If we did start it up I think I'd use Snow Troopers mostly. But paint them up in the colors of the Galactic Marines, because old Cannon mentioned the Imperials still having those floating around. That way it makes sense for my Snow Troopers to be everywhere.


That's actually an awesome idea, and as a bonus the Galactic Marines colourscheme is sweet. I might pinch that.

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I need to acquire plastic Skavenslaves, can you help?
I have a blog now, evidently. Featuring the Alternative Mordheim Model Megalist.

"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
-----
"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal 
   
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A good look at the models painted up in this vid from beats of war


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 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
Probably because the Legion Models look better than the Last Jedi action figures.


Not saying much. Like saying a dog turd is slightly less disgusting than a cat turd.

Has this game even discussed exploring new eras and factions yet?

 Inquisitor Kallus wrote:

"I am Inquisitor Adeptus Doritos and I am far more important than anything you could ever conceive of doing at this, or any other, moment in time! Im not just some random pleb that someone made up on a whim. Im just as important as Karazamabob or any of those other lordy lordys."
 
   
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Yodhrin wrote:
 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
So a friend and I are still tentatively looking at this, could be fun.

If we did start it up I think I'd use Snow Troopers mostly. But paint them up in the colors of the Galactic Marines, because old Cannon mentioned the Imperials still having those floating around. That way it makes sense for my Snow Troopers to be everywhere.


That's actually an awesome idea, and as a bonus the Galactic Marines colourscheme is sweet. I might pinch that.


Have at it my dude.

Adeptus Doritos wrote:
 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
Probably because the Legion Models look better than the Last Jedi action figures.


Not saying much. Like saying a dog turd is slightly less disgusting than a cat turd.

Has this game even discussed exploring new eras and factions yet?


They arent that bad of models, I think some if up to the paint.

Not that I have seen.
   
 
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