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2021/06/06 13:56:32
Subject: Re:Warhammer+ GW's Video on Demand channel coming soon
The few vids I have seen, from said influencers, who got free stuff to paint/review they looked genuinely surprised with the unexpected boxes. Not sure if its a planned thing.
I hope im wrong here but I dont expect to see more of those types of reviews once W+ is released though. I also dont expect things like beasts war, dont remember their name now, to be able to profit from GW content without a C&D or something of the sort.
It'd be hilarious if GW tried to kill all those channels. They're functionally free advertising, and I suspect the primary sources people turn to (look at all the info being discussed in the Sisters thread).
C&Ding them would hamstring their own outreach and marketing. I don't think even GW Legal is that devoted to incompetent stupidity.
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Efficiency is the highest virtue.
2021/06/06 14:16:49
Subject: Warhammer+ GW's Video on Demand channel coming soon
I also don't think you can legally C&D someone for reviewing a product or showing how to play it. I doubt they would try to do that, and if they do, they will not get anywhere.
I dont know man but looking at GW and how they sometimes go on a weird tangent I could see them thinking they are a Nintendo and sue the hell out of content creators.
That's what happens when GW sends new releases to random YT people that may or may not be painters a day before general release.
It's been a complaint from many a Youtuber that they never get anything in time to make a video ahead of time, let alone paint the stuff.
Cry me a river that people who are getting free stuff from GW aren't getting it in time to have a full painting tutorial ready to drop on release day.
You sound oblivious and out of touch.....
These "people" also rarely, if ever, "get free stuff" and those people are increasing YOUR chances of bringing/meeting new people in the hobby.
They contribute more to the growth than your few snarky posts on a message board.
In fact, MOST people that have YT channels for specific GW stuff do it on their own dime or they are a hobby store trying to build the community at large, around the world.
I think it was Midwinter Minis that quit his "partnership" with GW because he got literally ONE thing from them under the conditions I previous mentioned, and it was a waste of time.
Something is happening on the 24th, we sent you a poster.
2021/06/06 16:33:09
Subject: Warhammer+ GW's Video on Demand channel coming soon
Da Boss wrote: I also don't think you can legally C&D someone for reviewing a product or showing how to play it. I doubt they would try to do that, and if they do, they will not get anywhere.
I mean, not legally, but combination of big company ability to out money individuals and the grace youtube gives to the striker vs the strikee, GW probably could hammer them down if they want because the law system is mostly for the rich.
2021/06/06 16:58:20
Subject: Warhammer+ GW's Video on Demand channel coming soon
Da Boss wrote: I also don't think you can legally C&D someone for reviewing a product or showing how to play it. I doubt they would try to do that, and if they do, they will not get anywhere.
It would be interesting but easier than you think. Anyone can C&D anyone else and the platforms like You Tube will usually play it safe and take videos down and let the poster fight the good fight for free speech. I know some review videos have been hit for using copyrighted music, from the film they were reviewing!
So a letter sufficiently dressed up in legalize might get You Tube to take things down.
2021/06/06 17:33:09
Subject: Warhammer+ GW's Video on Demand channel coming soon
GW can C&D if your review/video was uploaded to early and/or you used stuff you are not allowed to use
for example it is common to have screenshots from the GW store in those videos or official pictures from GW and if GW never allowed you to use those C&D is fine
Kid_Kyoto wrote: I know some review videos have been hit for using copyrighted music, from the film they were reviewing!
this is an easy one as the Music Industry in some countries is behind this
if a movie got the licence for the music, that was made specific for that movie, for cinema, blue ray and streaming, it is not allowed to use the music in other forms hence a YT video using the music is taken down because the performance rights organization of that country is taking things very strict
Harry, bring this ring to Narnia or the Sith will take the Enterprise
2021/06/06 18:39:32
Subject: Warhammer+ GW's Video on Demand channel coming soon
Hmmm, I guess they could use the fact that Youtubes systems are automated to do that. It would get them a crapton of bad press and torpedo their free publicity on Youtube, so it would be pretty dumb. But their IP people don't seem to be the smartest, so it's possible.
GW has a history of burning down the bridges to create a new community
I would not be surprised of the do something no one else would do and end up being fine and better than before because it payed off
as in this case the part of the community they would lose is the one that would not have payed for this kind of content anyway and the rest is following them as ordered
Harry, bring this ring to Narnia or the Sith will take the Enterprise
2021/06/08 20:51:46
Subject: Warhammer+ GW's Video on Demand channel coming soon
kodos wrote: Maybe Nvidia should also send their review cards out 1 day before launch so that not a single video/article is ready outside the internal marketing stuff
Nvidia (and AMD for team red cards) literally do this all the time. Linus was even moaning about it last week.
2021/06/11 12:21:16
Subject: Re:Warhammer+ GW's Video on Demand channel coming soon
I hope Warhammer+ is an extension of the 40k app I pay for atm (eg think is like $5 or so a month atm and if pay say $8 a month get warhammer + & the app available atm).
What I recon and others (as stated before) is it will have animations, but will have batreps, painting tutorials, discussion channels and pre-view channels.
Channels that rely on previewing GW products are the thing that will be contentious (as others have stated). if they stop giving preview copies or early release copies of codexs/models etc to youtube/independent channels it will maybe stop some of the buzz for GW, but it will assuredly diminish the growth of these channels a lot (if they rely on that).
However, if they relegate codex/rules previews to only Warhammer+ and still distribute models to other channels, it will grow Warhammer+ greatly (if want early looks at rules have to pay GW), and still promote the models through their affiliates.
14k Generic Space Marine Chapters
20k Deathwatch
10k Sisters of Battle
3k Inquisition
4k Grey Knights
5k Imperial Guard
4k Harlequins
8k Tau
2021/06/11 16:31:35
Subject: Warhammer+ GW's Video on Demand channel coming soon
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2021/06/20 16:36:07
Subject: Warhammer+ GW's Video on Demand channel coming soon
First, we know we’ll be able to watch their animated fare. And they also mentioned exclusive models.
Much as I’m a slag for exclusive models, I’m hoping for the following additional features.
1. Priority pre-orders. Such as a day or two before general release. Might be married to the order itself being shipped ASAP rather than on release day
2. Priority ticket booking for tournies. Perhaps exclusive subscriber only events.
3. Free entry to the Warhammer Museum
And that’s about it off the top of my head. Anyone else care to speculate?
Fed up of Scalpers? But still want your Exclusives? Why not join us?
because paying for the privilege of being first to give a corporation money is pathetic and encourages anti-customer practices which impact everyone, not just you.
2021/06/21 09:05:44
Subject: Warhammer+ GW's Video on Demand channel coming soon
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: If it lets me get my grubby mitts on card packs and Cursed City expansions, I’m willing
What Cursed City?
There is no Cursed City board game.
It never existed.
Radukar didn't appear in anything before coming to Age of Sigmar.
We have always been at war with Eurasia
"Tabletop games are the only setting when a body is made more horrifying for NOT being chopped into smaller pieces."
- Jiado
2021/06/21 09:44:58
Subject: Warhammer+ GW's Video on Demand channel coming soon
Cronch wrote: because paying for the privilege of being first to give a corporation money is pathetic and encourages anti-customer practices which impact everyone, not just you.
Cobblers. Absolute cobblers.
You don’t want to sign up, don’t sign up. And don’t claim anyone who does sign up is somehow damaging to your position.
Fed up of Scalpers? But still want your Exclusives? Why not join us?
Cronch wrote: because paying for the privilege of being first to give a corporation money is pathetic and encourages anti-customer practices which impact everyone, not just you.
Cobblers. Absolute cobblers.
You don’t want to sign up, don’t sign up. And don’t claim anyone who does sign up is somehow damaging to your position.
Grasping the concept of "Giving GW money for bad business practices ensures they will continue doing them and feth over everyone" really isn't that hard to grasp man.
"Tabletop games are the only setting when a body is made more horrifying for NOT being chopped into smaller pieces."
- Jiado
2021/06/21 10:04:36
Subject: Warhammer+ GW's Video on Demand channel coming soon
Cronch wrote: because paying for the privilege of being first to give a corporation money is pathetic and encourages anti-customer practices which impact everyone, not just you.
Cobblers. Absolute cobblers.
You don’t want to sign up, don’t sign up. And don’t claim anyone who does sign up is somehow damaging to your position.
I'm talking SPECIFICALLY about your idea of "signing up lets people access preorders early and get better service at tourneys", not the "pay to access shows/rulebooks" service.
It's a bad practice from customer's pov and create even more uneven have-have not split in a hobby that's already classist as heck.
2021/06/21 10:09:47
Subject: Re:Warhammer+ GW's Video on Demand channel coming soon
Took 'em a while, but I guess the unrelenting torrent of people clowning on how awful Warhammer+ sounds finally got to the big cheeses, who have decided to do a bit of damage control.
2021/06/21 10:11:29
Subject: Re:Warhammer+ GW's Video on Demand channel coming soon
Took 'em a while, but I guess the unrelenting torrent of people clowning on how awful Warhammer+ sounds finally got to the big cheeses, who have decided to do a bit of damage control.
They said when it was first announced that there’d be a preview in June with more details.