Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

Tournaments and house rules often try to lower the powerlevel of army lists, by restricting special characters somehow, or even banning all special characters outright. How then would your Mechanized Ork list look?
I mean, Ghazghkull is out, and with Snikrok out too, I presume that means that the Kommandos loose their appeal. So I was thinking something like this, but I'd very much like some advice on it still.

HEADQUARTER
-----------------
110 Warboss + powerklaw + attack squig + 'eavy armour + bosspole
90pts Big Mek + kustom force field + bosspole

ELITES
------
225pts 15xBurnas
150pts 10xLootas

TROOPS
---------
333pts 9xNobz
Painboy + Grot orderly
Powerklaw
Twinlinked-shoota
Waagh banner
Big Choppa
Big Choppa + kombi-skorcha
Big choppa + ammo runt
kombi-skorcha
9x'eavy armour

40pts 10xGrots + Runtherd
157pts 12xslugga&choppa + 1 nob + power klaw + bosspole + trukk + reinforced ram + red paint job + boarding plank
157pts 12xslugga&choppa + 1 nob + power klaw + bosspole + trukk + reinforced ram + red paint job + boarding plank
157pts 12xslugga&choppa + 1 nob + power klaw + bosspole + trukk + reinforced ram + red paint job + boarding plank

HEAVY SUPPORT
-------------------
105 battlewagon + reinforced ram + red paint job + big shoota (Burna boyz + Big Mek)
110 battlewagon + reinforced ram + red paint job + big shoota + boarding plank (Nobz + Warboss)

FAST ATTACK
----------------
45pts Deffkopta + Twinlinked rokkit launcha
70pts Deffkopta + Twinlinked rokkit launcha + Buzzsaw
1749pts
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
The general idea being the same as any Mech Ork army, with the Lootas thrown in to handle opposing vehicles/hard targets and the Grots to screen them. It's a small screen, but most attention should be on the vehicles anyway. Plus the grots can take an objective in a pinch.

Any ideas for a list in a somewhat restricted environment?


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Either the above, or perhaps forget about the Lootas completely, and go for just more of the same, that was already in the army?


HQ
--
110 Warboss + powerklaw + attack squig + 'eavy armour + bosspole
108pts Big Mek + kustom force field + burna + ammo runt

ELITES
------
225pts 15xBurnas

TROOPS
---------
348pts 10xNobz
Painboy
Bosspole
Waaagh banner
Powerklaw
Powerklaw + Ammo Runt
Powerklaw + Kombi-Skorcha
Big Choppa
Big choppa + Ammo Runt
Big Choppa + kombi-skorcha

157pts 12xslugga&choppa + 1 nob + power klaw + bosspole + trukk + reinforced ram + red paint job + boarding plank
157pts 12xslugga&choppa + 1 nob + power klaw + bosspole + trukk + reinforced ram + red paint job + boarding plank
157pts 12xslugga&choppa + 1 nob + power klaw + bosspole + trukk + reinforced ram + red paint job + boarding plank
157pts 12xslugga&choppa + 1 nob + power klaw + bosspole + trukk + reinforced ram + red paint job + boarding plank

HEAVY SUPPORT
-------------------
105 battlewagon + reinforced ram + red paint job + big shoota (Burna boyz + Big Mek)
110 battlewagon + reinforced ram + red paint job + big shoota + boarding plank (Nobz + Warboss)

FAST ATTACK
----------------
45pts Deffkopta + Twinlinked rokkit launcha
70pts Deffkopta + Twinlinked rokkit launcha + Buzzsaw
1749pts

Second list is better, and quite good if I do say so myself, the reason being that the first list is mixing and matching. Your list is trying to get into CC, but your lootas aren't, so once all your boyz get krumpin', your lootas are a waste of points.

Second list is a lot better and pretty much spot on.

Orks being resticted from using special characters is like not sticking every nail through a 2x4, I guarantee it will still hurt when you hit someone with it.

I like the 2nd list as well.

One other consideration, just for "fun," is possibly a second burna-filled battlewagon instead of the nobz. It can get disgusting (in a good way) with 30 flamer templates on the prowl, but the mix-n-match nobz are fun, too.

Good job.