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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/29 16:34:23
Subject: Would You Be Interested In...
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Ultramarine Terminator with Assault Cannon
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Base weights that are made to fit in the recess of the standard GW bases?
Let's face it, plastic models are great, but they lack the weight to sometimes stay in their place on the tabletop. Another issue is off balance models like Hormagaunts. Every Tyranid player who uses them struggles with them falling over. Most people find their own solutions to weighing down a model; clipped metal bits glued in place, attach a metal washer or coin... While they may work, these methods are crude and using a coin is just wasteful. So I ask all you 40K and/or WFB players... Would you be interested in purchasing specially made base weights that fit nicely into the recess of the standard GW base and how much would you be willing to pay for said product? (Example: Pack of 10 weights for round, slotted, 28mm basses = $7.50 USD)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/29 16:37:25
Subject: Would You Be Interested In...
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I use nickels. Unless you can get me a pack of ten for less than 50c, I don't see why I would buy them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/29 16:42:56
Subject: Would You Be Interested In...
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oni wrote:Base weights that are made to fit in the recess of the standard GW bases? Let's face it, plastic models are great, but they lack the weight to sometimes stay in their place on the tabletop. Another issue is off balance models like Hormagaunts. Every Tyranid player who uses them struggles with them falling over. Most people find their own solutions to weighing down a model; clipped metal bits glued in place, attach a metal washer or coin... While they may work, these methods are crude and using a coin is just wasteful. So I ask all you 40K and/or WFB players... Would you be interested in purchasing specially made base weights that fit nicely into the recess of the standard GW base and how much would you be willing to pay for said product? (Example: Pack of 10 weights for round, slotted, 28mm basses = $7.50 USD) Well, I would be interested in them, except for the fact that 10 weights @ $7.50 = .75 each, while two pennies and 5 seconds of exacto knife work to recess the plastic slot = two pennies. Sounds to me like additional weights are more wasteful in most ways than using a couple pennies. Now, if you made those weights magnetic, possibly for the same or less cost, then I might consider it. Just my .02 (pun intended)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/29 16:44:32
Subject: Re:Would You Be Interested In...
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Winged Kroot Vulture
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My mother is a jewlery maker and gives me her scrap metal.
Now, if you made solid bases with, and without, the slots...I might consider it buying those..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/29 16:48:02
Subject: Would You Be Interested In...
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Lord of the Fleet
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Weights for slotta bases might have a market except that most minis in a slotta will be metal.
Weights for non-slotta bases would have to be very heavy or magnetic since a 1pence coin fits perfectly and it sounds like other countries have similarly convenient coinage.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/29 17:19:18
Subject: Re:Would You Be Interested In...
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Indeed, the american nickel solves many a weight problem
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/29 17:23:01
Subject: Re:Would You Be Interested In...
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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ProtoClone wrote:Now, if you made solid bases with, and without, the slots...I might consider it buying those..
And with this the proverbial nail head has been struck.
Put weights in resin bases. You can then sell them for something more than it takes to make them and your weighting system will provide you a differentiation.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/29 18:00:12
Subject: Would You Be Interested In...
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Anointed Dark Priest of Chaos
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Nurglitch wrote:I use nickels. Unless you can get me a pack of ten for less than 50c, I don't see why I would buy them.
+1
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/29 18:05:57
Subject: Would You Be Interested In...
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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I'd like to blame the miniature gamers of the world for our current economic recession. By using monetary coins as weights you are taking that currency out of circulation (which is illegal, at least in the US), thereby causing inflation.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/29 18:09:18
Subject: Would You Be Interested In...
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Anointed Dark Priest of Chaos
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chaos0xomega wrote:I'd like to blame the miniature gamers of the world for our current economic recession. By using monetary coins as weights you are taking that currency out of circulation (which is illegal, at least in the US), thereby causing inflation.
Yes wargamers are the cause of the worlds economic problems.
When the fat cat CEO's and sleasy traders give back their bailout money and fat pensions that they earn for doing absolutely nothign but wrecking the economy and profiting at the expense of others I'll start to feel bad that i used ten dollars worth of nickels on my shoota boyz...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/29 18:45:38
Subject: Would You Be Interested In...
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I don't know about you, but if I could get a leverage on my armies then I'd damn well sit down and write one!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/29 18:51:49
Subject: Would You Be Interested In...
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Kid_Kyoto
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chaos0xomega wrote:I'd like to blame the miniature gamers of the world for our current economic recession. By using monetary coins as weights you are taking that currency out of circulation (which is illegal, at least in the US), thereby causing inflation.
Actually, I believe that the removal of money from the economy would increase the value, not the other way around.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/29 19:00:52
Subject: Would You Be Interested In...
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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daedalus wrote:chaos0xomega wrote:I'd like to blame the miniature gamers of the world for our current economic recession. By using monetary coins as weights you are taking that currency out of circulation (which is illegal, at least in the US), thereby causing inflation.
Actually, I believe that the removal of money from the economy would increase the value, not the other way around.
Governmental removal of money, yes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/30 00:08:34
Subject: Would You Be Interested In...
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Dakka Veteran
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Actually, if you get the small round fishing weights, you may be able to make them to look like skulls with a little green stuff. Just work them into your base as part of the terrain.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/30 00:47:36
Subject: Would You Be Interested In...
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Fixture of Dakka
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chaos0xomega wrote:I'd like to blame the miniature gamers of the world for our current economic recession. By using monetary coins as weights you are taking that currency out of circulation (which is illegal, at least in the US), thereby causing inflation.
Waitaminute... taking money out of circulation is illegal?
So how you you put money in a 401(k) then?
And how the feth do corportations get away with moving jobs out of the country? That removes billions of $ from circulation....
EDIT: If anyone wishes to respond to this, we might want to start a thread in OT rather than hijack this one...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/30 00:50:28
Subject: Would You Be Interested In...
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Oberfeldwebel
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chaos0xomega wrote:I'd like to blame the miniature gamers of the world for our current economic recession. By using monetary coins as weights you are taking that currency out of circulation (which is illegal, at least in the US), thereby causing inflation.
Let's check the "troll-o-meter"
1/10 - pathetic effort.
Young sir, kindly turn your internet in to the proper authorities, you don't deserve it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/30 00:57:43
Subject: Would You Be Interested In...
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Anti-Armour Swiss Guard
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I use the odd 2c (out of circulation and no longer legal tender) coins we used to have or washers for mine (when I have the time, I also use the punched 3mm aluminium discs I got off a brother in-law - they need to be drilled for pinning to models).
Resin bases I use don't need extra weights.
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Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.
That is not dead which can eternal lie ...
... and yet, with strange aeons, even death may die.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/30 01:00:15
Subject: Re:Would You Be Interested In...
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Doc Brown
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I use PVA Glue and small ball bearings. This way, I don't waste $20 more on my army, but only a nice little $5 for the weight.
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"From the fires of Betrayal unto the blood of revenge we bring the name of Lorgar, the Bearer of the Word, the favored Son of Chaos, all praise be given to him. From those that would not heed we offer praise to those who do, that they might turn their gaze our way and gift us with the Boon of Pain, to turn the Galaxy red with the blood, and feed the hunger of the Gods."
-Excerpt from the Three Hundred and Forty-First
Book of Epistles of Lorgar
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/30 11:12:03
Subject: Would You Be Interested In...
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Hellacious Havoc
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I'd probably buy some, depending on how heavy they are. I sometimes find coins aren't really heavy enough, especially if I've converted a miniature and it's severely off-balance (because it's got metal arms sticking out from a plastic body for example). Not sure how heavy a piece of metal that size could be , but if you can make them hefty, and maybe make weights for slotta bases, you'll have a good product there.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/30 12:49:57
Subject: Would You Be Interested In...
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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I agree about weights, but weights abound. Simple 1in flat washers from the local hardware store are dirt cheap, fit well, and easy to glue.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/30 13:17:30
Subject: Would You Be Interested In...
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
About to eat your Avatar...
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Has anyone added texture to the bottom of their bases for grip? I always have to lay my models on their side, when they are at any sort of angle on slippery surfaces.
I am going to guess that texturizing terrain may make more sense? That still wouldn't help on other peoples terrain though... hmmm.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/30 13:35:30
Subject: Would You Be Interested In...
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Lady of the Lake
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Vulcan wrote:chaos0xomega wrote:I'd like to blame the miniature gamers of the world for our current economic recession. By using monetary coins as weights you are taking that currency out of circulation (which is illegal, at least in the US), thereby causing inflation.
Waitaminute... taking money out of circulation is illegal?
So how you you put money in a 401(k) then?
And how the feth do corportations get away with moving jobs out of the country? That removes billions of $ from circulation....
EDIT: If anyone wishes to respond to this, we might want to start a thread in OT rather than hijack this one...
Outsourcing and spending on products overseas does not remove currency from circulation in a bad way. I've got a table on this from Economics if I can ever find it again, but it's one of the few better ways of doing it. The other two main ones are saving and I can't remember the last. But, all that goes back into the circulation at some point. The illegal way would be to remove it perminately such as destroying the money. So technically using them as weights isn't illegal as at some point you will spend those pennies on more plasticrack
Unless you cut them instead of adjusting the slot base for some reason.
Now you don't need to make a topic about it
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/30 13:35:35
Subject: Would You Be Interested In...
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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How would you texture the bottom?
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/30 13:40:53
Subject: Would You Be Interested In...
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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If you fill the base with some kind of liquid rubber maybe? That would add weight, and you could coat it in something gritty to add a bit of extra grip.
That is pretty much my only idea right now, not sure if it would work though. It just bugs the hell out of me when half of my army keeps sliding down hills and stuff.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/30 13:42:36
Subject: Re:Would You Be Interested In...
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Lady of the Lake
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Actually that would work.
Weight the base then put a thin layer over the weight.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/30 13:47:20
Subject: Would You Be Interested In...
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
About to eat your Avatar...
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I will mess around a bit with some of my proxy models, maybe rubber cement would work well? Luckily I don't have to worry about working with too many slot bases.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/30 13:48:42
Subject: Would You Be Interested In...
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Wrexasaur wrote:If you fill the base with some kind of liquid rubber maybe? That would add weight, and you could coat it in something gritty to add a bit of extra grip.
That is pretty much my only idea right now, not sure if it would work though. It just bugs the hell out of me when half of my army keeps sliding down hills and stuff.
Yes that is a major issue.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/30 14:11:19
Subject: Re:Would You Be Interested In...
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Alluring Sorcerer of Slaanesh
Union, Kentucky United States
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I agree that a lot of models really do need weights to keep them from getting destroyed by falling down the table, but pennies are cheap, and I forsee the market on something like base weights only working in two ways. The first would be namely newer gamers since well often they buy everything. The second and heres the big problem is newer gamers tend to buy what GW (for exp) tells them or ENCOURAGES them too. So short of being in cahoots with white dwarf to get your product out there it's a hard sell.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/30 16:33:50
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Dakka Veteran
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Frazzled wrote:I agree about weights, but weights abound. Simple 1in flat washers from the local hardware store are dirt cheap, fit well, and easy to glue.
I actually did this but they do need extra work with slotted basses. I just used the clipper and snipped away at the bottom.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/30 16:53:27
Subject: Would You Be Interested In...
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I've seen base weights available on feebay. While I didn't bite, it did encourage me to smash fishing sinkers with a hammer and glue them to the underside of my more wobbly models.
A moulded weight would probably work better, but not if the the expense outweighs (forgive the pun) the convenience.
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