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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/20 04:33:19
Subject: Tyrannofex Conversion from the Trygon...
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Current Armies: Blood Angels, Imperial Guard (40k), Skorne, Retribution (Warmachine), Vampire Counts (Fantasy)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/20 04:36:35
Subject: Tyrannofex Conversion from the Trygon...
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Blackclad Wayfarer
From England. Living in Shanghai
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I like it...but I was looking forward to seeing a huge rupture cannon. Also would it have been possible to fit the mawloc or trygon head on in place of the fexes? Automatically Appended Next Post: Oh...and I'm really looking forward to seeing a tervigon. I have taken apart a fex and am thinking of ways to make the main body bigger without using up a trygon sprue.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/20 04:40:43
Subject: Tyrannofex Conversion from the Trygon...
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
A garden grove on Citadel Station
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I like it a lot, but I am not a fan of the dual-wielding. What weapons option does that represent? I would think that one big cannon would both look better and be more appropriate, right now it feels like there's too much empty space beneath his chest.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/20 04:56:42
Subject: Re:Tyrannofex Conversion from the Trygon...
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
Did you guys know Canada has a friggin desert?
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Nice, cant wait to see it finished though i agree with the one big gun instead. still looks cool as hell tho  .
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/20 05:13:49
Subject: Tyrannofex Conversion from the Trygon...
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Fixture of Dakka
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Lukus83 wrote:I like it...but I was looking forward to seeing a huge rupture cannon. Also would it have been possible to fit the mawloc or trygon head on in place of the fexes?
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Oh...and I'm really looking forward to seeing a tervigon. I have taken apart a fex and am thinking of ways to make the main body bigger without using up a trygon sprue.
I've been pondering the same thing. I bought a few devourer-fexes off eBay; I'm hoping to be able to cut them in a way to make them broader, taller, and longer.
I like your Tyrannofex body, Mahu - is that a Trygon tail? The extra chitin plating down the tail definitely adds to the overall size.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/20 05:30:06
Subject: Tyrannofex Conversion from the Trygon...
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Terminator with Assault Cannon
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I don't like the looks of that gun. Everything else is cool, but the join between the two barrel segments is way too obvious.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/20 05:45:58
Subject: Tyrannofex Conversion from the Trygon...
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I don't hate the twin gun look, given the Rupture cannon is an Assault 2 cannon, but I agree with others that you need better gun barrels, they're a bit too obviously a barbed strangler stuck to a venom cannon.  Personally I'm considering a 'pyrovore' look, i.e. with the big gun poking out of the shell above the head. Haven't worked out _how_ yet :(
I like the torso, it proves a 'horizontal' Trygon torso looks cool. Not sure about the leg extensions, but I don't have any better suggestions out of those 2 kits.
Looking forward to seeing your tervigon...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/20 08:00:19
Subject: Tyrannofex Conversion from the Trygon...
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Hacking Shang Jí
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I agree with what's already been said. Apart from the guns, that is a thing of stompy, choppy, bitey beauty.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/20 12:33:56
Subject: Tyrannofex Conversion from the Trygon...
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Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle
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I really like the main gun ( but it couldve blended a bit more)
but i just like the double gun pose never seen one that big before
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/20 15:00:12
Subject: Tyrannofex Conversion from the Trygon...
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Fixture of Dakka
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I am not digging the guns so much; they look a bit weedy, and the muzzles don't really do it justice. I think something more along the lines of the pyrovore's gun might be more appropriate looking. A little less "rail gun" and a little more... rock and roll... long demolisher cannon perhaps.
Also, and this is more a critique of the general GW modeling of carnies, but you might want to put the front scything talons on the ground for support. The guy looks really overly balanced forward, even with the tail.
The rest of the body does look really nice, and I like that I can hardly tell where you changed the legs at all. Slick job there.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/20 15:49:33
Subject: Tyrannofex Conversion from the Trygon...
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Nasty Nob
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Way too big for the base. In other words, PERFECT!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/20 16:15:58
Subject: Re:Tyrannofex Conversion from the Trygon...
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Thank you for the kind words.
On the guns, I actually agree, I just couldn't figure out anything else. It's like being told what a Lascannon looks like and only having plastic heavy bolters and plasma cannons. I thought at least the two "larger then the average gun" look would work. I did revisit the connecting joints and other areas and shaved some things down. Sometimes you just can't see how a joint will look together until after you prime it.
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Current Armies: Blood Angels, Imperial Guard (40k), Skorne, Retribution (Warmachine), Vampire Counts (Fantasy)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/20 16:31:02
Subject: Re:Tyrannofex Conversion from the Trygon...
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Bounding Assault Marine
In the deepest reaches of Valhalla
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One word; Awesome!
I have been thinking along the lines of a conversion like this and I am pleased to see how perfectly you pulled it of gives me hope!
//Edge
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/20 17:13:39
Subject: Tyrannofex Conversion from the Trygon...
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Fixture of Dakka
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I hear you Mahu. When I first saw the picture in the codex my thought was "What do you convert that with, a dildo?" A few days later, I didn't really have a better answer than "piles of greenstuff."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/20 17:35:29
Subject: Re:Tyrannofex Conversion from the Trygon...
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Looking nice!
But it does look really front heavy, like its going to topple over face first.
The problem comes from the leggs not being in the center of gravity, it has more mass infront of the legs then behind them. If you look at the carnifex for example its center is around its knee joints.
Moving the legs forwards a bit and giving them a slight bend would fix tis, or you could make it a four legged thing like a Bio titan.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/20 17:51:06
Subject: Tyrannofex Conversion from the Trygon...
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Huge Hierodule
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I'm working on plans for T-fexes based on the Carni mini... got an idea to use the Adrenal Gland as the 'roots' of a dorsal Rupture Cannon and throw on some Fex forelegs I've been making and see how it turns out. Automatically Appended Next Post: Bubbalicious wrote:Looking nice!
But it does look really front heavy, like its going to topple over face first.
The problem comes from the leggs not being in the center of gravity, it has more mass infront of the legs then behind them. If you look at the carnifex for example its center is around its knee joints.
Moving the legs forwards a bit and giving them a slight bend would fix tis, or you could make it a four legged thing like a Bio titan.
Since it has such a long tail, if that were lifted off the base it'd provide a fairly natural counterweight. Compare how bipedal Dinosaurs used to be reconstructed, with modern equivalent:
Tail sitting on he floor, hips getting Arthritis trying to cope with appalling weight distribution.
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The tail and body balance over the hips like a see-saw.
With careful pinning and the correct sculpting medium, Carnifex legs can take a lot of weight. Green Stuff is a good medium as it bends with impacts; Milliput will crack and fail as a load-bearer, I've had to inject superglue into cracks on joints in the past.
That said, I've always liked the idea of quadruped Nids as the shooters, with the bipeds being the chargers - it fits in nicely with the original 'space dinosaurs' aesthetic and helps reinforce the lumbering nature of gunbeasts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/20 17:57:06
Subject: Tyrannofex Conversion from the Trygon...
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Brainy Zoanthrope
Chesapeake, VA / D.C. area
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body looks great.
For the gun, maybe combine two barbed stranglers or something?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/21 16:46:56
Subject: Tyrannofex Conversion from the Trygon...
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Regular Dakkanaut
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lindsay40k wrote:I'm working on plans for T-fexes based on the Carni mini... got an idea to use the Adrenal Gland as the 'roots' of a dorsal Rupture Cannon and throw on some Fex forelegs I've been making and see how it turns out.
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Bubbalicious wrote:Looking nice!
But it does look really front heavy, like its going to topple over face first.
The problem comes from the leggs not being in the center of gravity, it has more mass infront of the legs then behind them. If you look at the carnifex for example its center is around its knee joints.
Moving the legs forwards a bit and giving them a slight bend would fix tis, or you could make it a four legged thing like a Bio titan.
Since it has such a long tail, if that were lifted off the base it'd provide a fairly natural counterweight. Compare how bipedal Dinosaurs used to be reconstructed, with modern equivalent:
Tail sitting on he floor, hips getting Arthritis trying to cope with appalling weight distribution.
The tail and body balance over the hips like a see-saw.
With careful pinning and the correct sculpting medium, Carnifex legs can take a lot of weight. Green Stuff is a good medium as it bends with impacts; Milliput will crack and fail as a load-bearer, I've had to inject superglue into cracks on joints in the past.
That said, I've always liked the idea of quadruped Nids as the shooters, with the bipeds being the chargers - it fits in nicely with the original 'space dinosaurs' aesthetic and helps reinforce the lumbering nature of gunbeasts.
I know it has a long tail but its stil not big enough to hold the front end upp in that pose.
If you take te T-rex as your example its center is at its knee. Go take a look at a historically correct pic of it from the side or read about its anatomy, how it moved and you will clearly see that its mass infront of its knee is the same as behind it as most of its mass is situated around the legs, and it needs realy powerfull leg muslces to stand and move, and wasnt realy that fast either.
But then again, as i dont know anything about tyranid biology, the front chest might be full of hot air or hollow for bioplasma storage.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/21 18:26:53
Subject: Tyrannofex Conversion from the Trygon...
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Huge Hierodule
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Bubbalicious wrote:
I know it has a long tail but its stil not big enough to hold the front end upp in that pose.
If you take te T-rex as your example its center is at its knee. Go take a look at a historically correct pic of it from the side or read about its anatomy, how it moved and you will clearly see that its mass infront of its knee is the same as behind it as most of its mass is situated around the legs, and it needs realy powerfull leg muslces to stand and move, and wasnt realy that fast either.
But then again, as i dont know anything about tyranid biology, the front chest might be full of hot air or hollow for bioplasma storage.
The biology info is interesting, it's certainly a while since I last studied the subject in great detail.
Remember, WFB and 40K do not use true scale but rather a heroic scale that tricks the eye. The dimensions of Cold Ones are incorrect for a workable sprinting predator, but they look good enough for us to suspend our disbelief and imagine them in action.
Right now the pose on Mahu's biped T-fex is a lot closer to the awkward olden days dino reconstruction than the modern image. If the tail was raised (and the legs bulked out a little more), I wager it'd work better as a model of an animal even if it wouldn't function when scaled up into an IRL beastie.
However, I've already thrown in my five cents that I find gun nids work better as quadrupeds given their more sedentary behaviour on the battlefield, and second the suggestion to use the talons as forelegs. In this case, sauropods or other large herbivores make good source material - I'll shamelessly point the reader towards my gallery to show what I mean
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/21 19:10:11
Subject: Tyrannofex Conversion from the Trygon...
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Prescient Cryptek of Eternity
Mayhem Comics in Des Moines, Iowa
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His T-Fex looks FAR more balanced them mine. I looked at a few ways of bulking up the tail, but decided I didn't like the way any of them looked, and said "Meh, it's not like it's real."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/21 20:27:35
Subject: Re:Tyrannofex Conversion from the Trygon...
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Thank you, lindsay40k, for the support.
I understand your desire for quadraped shooty creatures, and all your stuff looks great, but for me, I am OCD about design consistency, even more then correct Biology. To me, a Tyrannofex seemed like a good "mid-way" point between this:
And this:
And that was pretty much what I was going for. Plus, I like the idea of the one-two punch of buying a Carnifex and a Tyrgon kit, making a few swaps, and coming up with a Tervigon and a Tyrannofex. This is a process I intend to repeat.
I finished up the body of my Tervigon conversion. Hopefully I got the base for it in the mail today and I can post it by the end of the week.
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Current Armies: Blood Angels, Imperial Guard (40k), Skorne, Retribution (Warmachine), Vampire Counts (Fantasy)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/21 20:36:55
Subject: Re:Tyrannofex Conversion from the Trygon...
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Fixture of Dakka
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Mahu wrote:And that was pretty much what I was going for. Plus, I like the idea of the one-two punch of buying a Carnifex and a Tyrgon kit, making a few swaps, and coming up with a Tervigon and a Tyrannofex. This is a process I intend to repeat.
I finished up the body of my Tervigon conversion. Hopefully I got the base for it in the mail today and I can post it by the end of the week.
This I would like to see!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/21 22:02:19
Subject: Re:Tyrannofex Conversion from the Trygon...
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
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Ill be honest, I dont really like the guns. I really, really like the way the body turned out, but I would like to see someone go ballsy and make one with a huge cannon like the sketch in the codex. Get a smaller head, such as a warrior head, lop off the bottom jaw and mold it onto a huge cannony thing. Once I get the money Ill do it. Ill go ballsy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/21 23:33:56
Subject: Re:Tyrannofex Conversion from the Trygon...
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Crazed Spirit of the Defiler
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When I first saw this monster in the new codex, I really wanted to see how everyone would do these. This is by far the best one I've seen so far, you've definitely got the Tyranno-look to it! I can't wait to see your Tervigon, as well as the paintjob on this monster! Keep up the great work!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/23 03:03:19
Subject: Re:Tyrannofex Conversion from the Trygon...
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Sneaky Kommando
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Mahu wrote:
I hate that head
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/23 03:14:22
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Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine
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same here. For some reason, I imagine it screaming that Tusken Raider battle-cry. Now onto the fex, The torso area is way too empty, the space between the arms and the cannon is pretty long for my tastes, and the tail looks unatural. But all in all that thing is frigin' sweet!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/08 07:48:09
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Numberless Necron Warrior
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I was just planning on buying a barbed hierodule and using it as a tyrannofex, lol.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/08 16:19:53
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Fixture of Dakka
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devinb1690 wrote:I was just planning on buying a barbed hierodule and using it as a tyrannofex, lol.
Mine showed up the other day. It's a little too big; more to the point, it's a LOT too expensive. I need several of them, after all!
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