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2015/02/27 11:27:00
Subject: Latest Forge World news and rumour thread : P93 Event model rules
Yeah, it is only £2 more than a standard Contemptor, but you get a fancy box, and a noticeably larger and more detailed sculpt. By FW standards, it is a bit of a bargain I agree that the level of detail is the most likely factor in making it a Character Series.
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2015/02/27 11:31:21
Subject: Latest Forge World news and rumour thread : P93 Event model rules
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2015/02/27 12:14:26
Subject: Latest Forge World news and rumour thread : P93 Event model rules
That thing looks amazing, its rules also seem very very good, for a dreadnought. Almost too good, I reckon it will see an increae to 250-260 to take them
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2015/02/27 13:18:00
Subject: Latest Forge World news and rumour thread : P93 Event model rules
I want to see that thing in Zone Mortalis! Doors? We don't need no stinking doors!
"Because the Wolves kill cleanly, and we do not. They also kill quickly, and we have never done that, either. They fight, they win, and they stalk back to their ships with their tails held high. If they were ever ordered to destroy another Legion, they would do it by hurling warrior against warrior, seeking to grind their enemies down with the admirable delusions of the 'noble savage'. If we were ever ordered to assault another Legion, we would virus bomb their recruitment worlds; slaughter their serfs and slaves; poison their gene-seed repositories and spend the next dozen decades watching them die slow, humiliating deaths. Night after night, raid after raid, we'd overwhelm stragglers from their fleets and bleach their skulls to hang from our armour, until none remained. But that isn't the quick execution the Emperor needs, is it? The Wolves go for the throat. We go for the eyes. Then the tongue. Then the hands. Then the feet. Then we skin the crippled remains, and offer it up as an example to any still bearing witness. The Wolves were warriors before they became soldiers. We were murderers first, last, and always!" —Jago Sevatarion
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2015/02/27 13:50:09
Subject: Re:Latest Forge World news and rumour thread : P93 Event model rules
First encountered during the Battle of Ithraca amidst the catastrophe on Calth, the twisted form of the Mhara Gal Tainted Dreadnought is terrifying in both its aspect and its unearthly power. The first Mhara Gal is believed to have been created from the barely living remains of a Gal Vorbak Dark Brethren and a battle-shattered Contemptor Dreadnought chassis, both recovered from the blood-soaked ground of Isstvan V. Fused together by unholy practices, they were then corrupted by a warp-borne power, giving birth to a new monstrosity – a living engine of war and hatred.
The Word Bearers Mhara Gal Tainted Dreadnought is a fearsome opponent in battle. Wielding a warpfire plasma cannon and tainted power claw, it is formidable both at range and in close combat, its blows slicing through armour and energy fields alike. Its warp-twisted reactor and the daemonic powers gifted to it by dark forces make it all the more deadly, even breaking the bonds of reality around the Mhara Gal to allow it to walk through obstacles as if they were not there at all.
This new addition to the Horus Heresy Character Series is a complete multi-part resin kit and is packaged in a black presentation box. Experimental rules for using the Word Bearers Mhara Gal Tainted Dreadnought in games set during the Horus Heresy can be found HERE.
See GW - this is how you do Chaos. No silly skulls and spikes. Instead you have a sinister biomechanical abomination. Would make an excellent 40k contemptor stand in as well.
The rules are pretty beastly too.
Does anyone get a vibe that the model was inspired by the movie "The Thing." It looks like the scene when the persons stomach opened up as a mouth and chopped off the persons hands.
2015/02/27 14:07:44
Subject: Latest Forge World news and rumour thread : P93 Event model rules
The rules are sick!
So need this in my DG army but it's WB :(.
Looks Nurgly so might buy it any way!
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2015/02/27 14:23:14
Subject: Latest Forge World news and rumour thread : P93 Event model rules
Lord Blackscale wrote: I want to see that thing in Zone Mortalis! Doors? We don't need no stinking doors!
yeah man, im also thinking that will clean up in a 'cities of death' battle.
the only reason i'm not quietly s#|++|ng it, is cause i play ordo reductor and i have stuff that can damage it; i feel a bit sorry for loyalist marine players.
still, at least there is a reason to take thallax in a legion list now. deep striking tank hunting lightning guns ftw!
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2015/02/27 17:02:42
Subject: Latest Forge World news and rumour thread : P93 Event model rules
Holy crap, I thought it was rather pricy at first, but when I saw the rules I was pretty shocked.
- Reduces heat or plasma based weapons by -1S
- Most models assaulting it suffer -1 to hit.
- Instead of exploding normally you get a S6 Ap5 7" Blast!!
- All Daemons and Psykers witihn 6" take S5 Ap2 hits!
- S10 Ap2 DCCW that forces re-rolls of successful Invuln saves!
- S8 Ap2 Plasma Cannon by default.
2015/02/27 17:05:21
Subject: Latest Forge World news and rumour thread : P93 Event model rules
The bit that is confusing me is that it isn't a character (you can take as many as you can fit into Elites) yet it is in the HH Character Series? I guess that is just because it is a damn nice sculpt, and that is coming from someone who doesn't like daemonic stuff.
On the other hand I like demonic stuff and don't find this piece all that interesting or inspired. They made it taller by adding a chaosy section to the thighs and making the body egg shaped, but lost the basic shape of the Contemptor body. Its just a chaos egg on Contemptor legs. Take a plastic egg, add some teeth and some runes, some chaosy guts/worms and a horn to the helmet and done... Don't think that paint job does it any favors either.
T
2015/02/27 17:19:19
Subject: Re:Latest Forge World news and rumour thread : P93 Event model rules
Personally i thnk the sculpt looks fantastic - that bit in it's speel about how it was fused together from parts of destroyed contemptor chassis' is spot on; the legs in particular had me staring at them for about five minuites looking at 'how they had been damaged before'
a deserving entry into the character series!
doesn't the demon rule give it an invulnerable save? this thing gets better and better the more you think about it!!
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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-px27tzAtVwZpZ4ljopV2w "ashtrays and teacups do not count as cover"
"jack of all trades, master of none; certainly better than a master of one"
The Ordo Reductor - the guy's who make wonderful things like the Landraider Achillies, but can't use them in battle..
2015/02/27 17:39:33
Subject: Latest Forge World news and rumour thread : P93 Event model rules
The S5 AP2 hits on Daemons within 6" is actually going to be a disadvantage for the Dreadnought more often than not I think, in the context of 30k at least. Daemons are pretty uncommon, so the most likely Daemons for this thing to come into contact with will be other units in the same Word Bearers force. For example, if any Gal Vorbak come within 6", they are going to start taking casualties. It basically has to operate alone to some extent, within a more Daemonic Word Bearers force at least.
The effect on Psykers could be entertaining against Thousand Sons though...
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ChargerIIC wrote: If algae farm paste with a little bit of your grandfather in it isn't Grimdark I don't know what is.
2015/02/27 19:21:33
Subject: Latest Forge World news and rumour thread : P93 Event model rules
i'm not a fan of this Dread, either, SlaveToDorkness...
not a surprise, as i didn't like the look of the Gal Vorbak...
this Dread just looks like a jumbled mess to me, and the Gal Vorbak look like they have been mutated by 'Nids, more than Chaos...
i like their size, but not their style...
cheers
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2015/02/27 20:16:59
Subject: Latest Forge World news and rumour thread : P93 Event model rules
As a mutated dread, it looks great, i.e. totally disgusting, just as it should.
The only obvious downside is if you want more than one - fielding two identical models would just look sad. Have to buy the loyalist version and mutate it with a hacksaw and loads of green stuff, I guess...
2015/02/27 20:23:29
Subject: Latest Forge World news and rumour thread : P93 Event model rules
jah-joshua wrote: i'm not a fan of this Dread, either, SlaveToDorkness...
not a surprise, as i didn't like the look of the Gal Vorbak...
this Dread just looks like a jumbled mess to me, and the Gal Vorbak look like they have been mutated by 'Nids, more than Chaos...
i like their size, but not their style...
cheers
jah
I'm not seeing the Nids in the Gal Vorbak?
2015/02/27 20:40:18
Subject: Latest Forge World news and rumour thread : P93 Event model rules
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Johnson101 wrote: That thing looks amazing, its rules also seem very very good, for a dreadnought. Almost too good, I reckon it will see an increae to 250-260 to take them
I suspect not.
Edit: Oh, damn, posting a pic of a whole page is probably not a good idea.
Anyway, he is in the book and his stats are just like the experimental ones, all the way down to points cost.
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The bit that is confusing me is that it isn't a character (you can take as many as you can fit into Elites) yet it is in the HH Character Series? I guess that is just because it is a damn nice sculpt, and that is coming from someone who doesn't like daemonic stuff.
On the other hand I like demonic stuff and don't find this piece all that interesting or inspired. They made it taller by adding a chaosy section to the thighs and making the body egg shaped, but lost the basic shape of the Contemptor body. Its just a chaos egg on Contemptor legs. Take a plastic egg, add some teeth and some runes, some chaosy guts/worms and a horn to the helmet and done... Don't think that paint job does it any favors either.
The bit that is confusing me is that it isn't a character (you can take as many as you can fit into Elites) yet it is in the HH Character Series? I guess that is just because it is a damn nice sculpt, and that is coming from someone who doesn't like daemonic stuff.
On the other hand I like demonic stuff and don't find this piece all that interesting or inspired. They made it taller by adding a chaosy section to the thighs and making the body egg shaped, but lost the basic shape of the Contemptor body. Its just a chaos egg on Contemptor legs. Take a plastic egg, add some teeth and some runes, some chaosy guts/worms and a horn to the helmet and done... Don't think that paint job does it any favors either.
T
Contemptors are already egg-shaped.
Not nearly as egg shaped as the new one is...
2015/03/02 12:32:19
Subject: Latest Forge World news and rumour thread : P93 Event model rules
The video of the new models is wonderful. It's great to see a high resolution closeup of the paint jobs they've done on their heresy line. I'd read that they used Tamiya clears on the models and it's very apparent in the closeup.
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3500 HH Ordo Reductor
3000 HH Iron Warriors
"Because the Wolves kill cleanly, and we do not. They also kill quickly, and we have never done that, either. They fight, they win, and they stalk back to their ships with their tails held high. If they were ever ordered to destroy another Legion, they would do it by hurling warrior against warrior, seeking to grind their enemies down with the admirable delusions of the 'noble savage'. If we were ever ordered to assault another Legion, we would virus bomb their recruitment worlds; slaughter their serfs and slaves; poison their gene-seed repositories and spend the next dozen decades watching them die slow, humiliating deaths. Night after night, raid after raid, we'd overwhelm stragglers from their fleets and bleach their skulls to hang from our armour, until none remained. But that isn't the quick execution the Emperor needs, is it? The Wolves go for the throat. We go for the eyes. Then the tongue. Then the hands. Then the feet. Then we skin the crippled remains, and offer it up as an example to any still bearing witness. The Wolves were warriors before they became soldiers. We were murderers first, last, and always!" —Jago Sevatarion
