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I was thinking of getting a sorcerer for my khorne army and giving him lash of submission so it brings the enemy closer to my combat gods. Tell me what you think and weather it is worth it.

mrnecron wrote:I was thinking of getting a sorcerer for my khorne army and giving him lash of submission so it brings the enemy closer to my combat gods. Tell me what you think and weather it is worth it.

Do a daemon prince, instead. You'll see much better results out of it.

Worth it...yes, provided that you have the ranged weapons to kick people out of their metal boxes (competitively speaking).

As for what most think, at face value it's horrid fluff...but with Count As you can represent it as something else...but still a stretch for most I'm going to guess.

Oh man, if my die-hard Khorn following friend met you in the street...

Tactically, its a fine idea though.

For around the same points a demon prince can survive a little longer thanks to his 4+ inv, eternal warrior, and can fish out a little more hurt in cc thanks to his Mon. Creature stat, plus I find it handy to have a 2D6 penatrator around.

keeperofsecrets wrote:For around the same points a demon prince can survive a little longer thanks to his 4+ inv, eternal warrior, and can fish out a little more hurt in cc thanks to his Mon. Creature stat, plus I find it handy to have a 2D6 penatrator around.

He's not got 4+ invuln only 5+.
if it's low points I'd run the daemon prince but at high point levels a sorcerors usually viewed as better since it can hide in a meatshield unit which can hide inside a vehicle. If you compare the resiliance difference it's one less wound, one less toughness and no eternal warrior for IC and being able to embark in vehicles.

O'shovah wrote:

keeperofsecrets wrote:For around the same points a demon prince can survive a little longer thanks to his 4+ inv, eternal warrior, and can fish out a little more hurt in cc thanks to his Mon. Creature stat, plus I find it handy to have a 2D6 penatrator around.

He's not got 4+ invuln only 5+.
if it's low points I'd run the daemon prince but at high point levels a sorcerors usually viewed as better since it can hide in a meatshield unit which can hide inside a vehicle. If you compare the resiliance difference it's one less wound, one less toughness and no eternal warrior for IC and being able to embark in vehicles.

I think he meant a Tzeench DP, which has a 4++.

But if i had tzeetch then i wouldn't be able to use lash of submision because it is a slanesh power.

Oh, well...since it's a khorne army, you can just lash 'em closer and destroy...it works well.

personaly i wouldnt use any psy units in a khorn army, cuz of khorns distaste for magics

epil wrote:personaly i wouldnt use any psy units in a khorn army, cuz of khorns distaste for magics

This is the 40k Tactics section of the forum. Tactically speaking, it's a good idea.

ok thanks for the help. I think i might go for the demon prince instead of the sorcerer though because i like the model and he fits better into the khorne army. I will still give him lash of submission though.


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I was just looking up the sorcerer and saw the familiar special rule. I think i might change to the sorcerer again seeing as he can have more powers.
By the way can a sorcerer have more than one familiar?

you can easily make the model look Khorne-y. Say that Khorne has blessed him with being faster (+1 I) and his "Lash of Submission" power is his ability to taunt a certian unit into wanting to fight him, I mean the bloodthirster model had a whip on it anyway so its not that far of a stretch.

Plus what Space Marine doesn't wanna take down a Chaos Daemon Prince? He's CHAOS!!! Everyone hates him!

@Billie:
Count As, yes, it's been suggested.

But not everyone embraces it, in terms of gaming groups even.
In some ways, it's just a way to make a more competitive list while disregarding how the army should function within the canon that is 40K.

Not to say that count as is a bad thing, but just to say not everybody approaches this with arms wide open...

Sorcerer's are better than DPs in most games as long as all you're wanting it for is Lash. Believe it or not, but 4 T5 wounds with 3+/5++ doesn't actually go very far.

Unless you take two and stick to cover and have alot of targets for your opponent.
What ever 3+/4+cover is decent along the way.
Cover from rhinos or Block LoS with a Raider.
Else, he's doing target saturation.

It's only when you get into rapid fire range and whiff getting into combat that it's a major issue of 'phail' .

I would use Lash Princes over Khorne princes in a Khorne list in a heartbeat.

It's not our fault if GW designs a codex badly for "fluffy" gameplay.

It's not like tyranids, orks, or almost any other army has to care about the fluff.

A khorne prince would be #1 in combat, so if I had to give him +1 toughness and Warptime instead of MoK to win close-combat, I will. It's the "fluffiest" option to me. Liberal use of "counts as"

If you're going to use a Sorcerer of Slaanesh, then make sure that you bring a Familiar so you can also have Warptime. Then the Sorcerer will have a power for shooting, and a power for close combat.

Nurglitch wrote:If you're going to use a Sorcerer of Slaanesh, then make sure that you bring a Familiar so you can also have Warptime. Then the Sorcerer will have a power for shooting, and a power for close combat.

If my memory is right, that comes to 155 points, which is a pretty good deal! I might have to try this HQ.

Ok. Now i think i am going for the sorcerer again I forgot about the familiars. lol.