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 Haighus wrote:
Typically, KT squads are a typical double sized sprue plus a single sprue with KT specific upgrade parts (for 3 frames total). Sometimes they are just three frames all jumbled up if all the options are in the Codex, like the Kommandos.

Since both of these Kill Teams are new, I would assume it will be one set of sprues for all the options, like the Kommandos and Corsairs. But in the previous sets, that was mostly just arm and head swaps. The bodies were usually the same. I don't know how the Kroot go together, but adding new legs and arms feels like a lot. The only shared bits are the torso and head? Not saying you're wrong, just would be unusual.

 silverstu wrote:
Theres some scatter terrain as well I think. Its a lot of walls- but not enough to build lots of corridors, as a base set its not bad but it will only get really interesting once you add additional sets.

I'm totally expecting this box to cost in the whereabouts of the latest Warcry box, so that wouldn't really happen ^^.

 Scottywan82 wrote:

 Haighus wrote:
Typically, KT squads are a typical double sized sprue plus a single sprue with KT specific upgrade parts (for 3 frames total). Sometimes they are just three frames all jumbled up if all the options are in the Codex, like the Kommandos.

Since both of these Kill Teams are new, I would assume it will be one set of sprues for all the options, like the Kommandos and Corsairs.

I wouldn't be so sure, of that, the Traitor Guard and Kriegers were also brand new, but both of them have all of the KT options on a separate sprue.

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 Scottywan82 wrote:

 Haighus wrote:
Typically, KT squads are a typical double sized sprue plus a single sprue with KT specific upgrade parts (for 3 frames total). Sometimes they are just three frames all jumbled up if all the options are in the Codex, like the Kommandos.

Since both of these Kill Teams are new, I would assume it will be one set of sprues for all the options, like the Kommandos and Corsairs.

I wouldn't be so sure, of that, the Traitor Guard and Kriegers were also brand new, but both of them have all of the KT options on a separate sprue.

The DKoK extra sprue also had some clever parts that dramatically changed the appearance of the model with few pieces, such as the crouching legs or the grenadier armour plate for the demolition expert.

 Albertorius wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Fine I'll post the terrain pics:





So in the first picture the ground is very clearly real... and then in the actual contents, it's a paper mat. And it appears that everything is based on a slot system, and then a series of toppers that holds everything together.

Is it me, or it looks a tad sparse?

The assembled terrain has 24 wall segments, while the component pics have 11, so there seems to be a missing piece, and then it is doubled.

Previous 8 Kill Teams have included 3 different sprue setups because GW is consistent at being inconsistent. Sprue of ten including Specialist bits (Kommandos, Corsairs) and sprue or ten with Specialist bits on separate frane (Death Korps, Novitiates, Traitor Guard) are equally likely in my opinion. I am tempted to guess the latter, though.

They fill up the sprue until they meet the requirement 2 builds for each models, then add some more if there're extra space. Corsair and Kommando are bigger than the other human teams, so they got the bigger 3rd sprue

I want to know what the heavy weapon is the kroots have and are there any alternate weapon options?

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

The assembled terrain has 24 wall segments, while the component pics have 11, so there seems to be a missing piece, and then it is doubled.

Bottom wall is the same as the one above it but modelled with door open. Single wall with pipe connector is missing and possibly some others.

My guess is that wall sections are divided into two sprues of 6 and then duplicated for a total of 24. Each accessory is also included twice and there are some that are not included in the showcase picture, such as the machinery with plasma containers, wall of crates and crashed alcove.

I would expect future sets to recycle number of walls and accessories but introduce a new sprue or two to represent specific details such as engine room or torpedo bay.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:
Is it me, or it looks a tad sparse?

Well they want you to buy the next two boxes after this, only those boxes will have existing kits with upgrade sprues, making them less attractive prospects.

Wasn't it four boxes with this Space Hulk theme?

TheGoodGerman wrote:
Wasn‘t a big fan of the recent Kill Team boxes, but this one looks nice and I might have to get one.

As they’ve now suddenly revealed the complete contents, are we expecting preorders to be announced this weekend? I would have expected a more gradual approach until they show us everything, but maybe their release schedule got jumbled and this set might just be what‘s ready now.

I'm told preorders are three weeks out, from a very good source.

 Dysartes wrote:
Wasn't it four boxes with this Space Hulk theme?

Four boxes you say? Even better!

 Haighus wrote:
The DKoK extra sprue also had some clever parts that dramatically changed the appearance of the model with few pieces, such as the crouching legs or the grenadier armour plate for the demolition expert.

The crouching legs are just on the regular sprue, though. They aren't part of the KT bits. Again, the extra pieces have been fairly minimal. Nothing as big as a new torso and legs.

 Scottywan82 wrote:

 Haighus wrote:
The DKoK extra sprue also had some clever parts that dramatically changed the appearance of the model with few pieces, such as the crouching legs or the grenadier armour plate for the demolition expert.

The crouching legs are just on the regular sprue, though. They aren't part of the KT bits. Again, the extra pieces have been fairly minimal. Nothing as big as a new torso and legs.

That was literally part of the Pathfinder sprue for Tau.



The DKoK sprue wasn't that big certainly, but it was designed in mind for the box.

 Kanluwen wrote:
That was literally part of the Pathfinder sprue for Tau.

And he was talking about the Kreiger sprue, so... ?

Scottywan82 wrote:

 Haighus wrote:
The DKoK extra sprue also had some clever parts that dramatically changed the appearance of the model with few pieces, such as the crouching legs or the grenadier armour plate for the demolition expert.

The crouching legs are just on the regular sprue, though. They aren't part of the KT bits. Again, the extra pieces have been fairly minimal. Nothing as big as a new torso and legs.

Oh, I could've sworn the DKoK sprue had one of the two crouching legs. Clearly not on review.

It doesn't have entire torsos, but it has different packs and pieces like the torso armour plate which do change the look of the model significantly.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
That was literally part of the Pathfinder sprue for Tau.

And he was talking about the Kreiger sprue, so... ?

The conversation in general is about how much the KT upgrade sprues change the look of the models, so other KTs, like the pathfinders, are relevant.

I do think the Kroot options will look surprisingly varied. Typically there are two builds for most bodies, and they usually look quite distinct.

Sadly, I'm not sure I can haz enough storage space to hold 4 more KT boxes full of terrain. I'll either have to make do with just getting 2 out of 4 boxes + the occasional must-have bits from the other two, or to skip this season's boxes altogether and only buy separate team kits which tickle my fancy.

I just about have the barebones terrain to represent most typical outdoors battlefields (+ 2 Realm Of Battle boards), I don't know if I'll need so much "indoors" terrain anyway as to require all 4 boxes. Enough is enough.

I think this will be the first of the Kill Team boxes that I'll buy, probably two and then whatever the rest of the seasons release's are

I'm more interested in how the terrain walls fit with the ZM terrain for Necromunda. It would be a great way to make more textured interiors if they didn't require a lot of work to fit properly.

I'm curious if the next kill team boxes will be fully new terrain that is compatible, or a sprue of new stuff and a sprue from this box?

I worked quite a bit with the zone mortals terrain - this new terrain does not look compatible in the slightest. I would even guess that the length and height of the pieces do not match up either. Nothing that can't be remedies with a hobby saw, but definitely not plug and play in the way the other terrain sets matched up previously.

 Haighus wrote:

Scottywan82 wrote:

 Haighus wrote:
The DKoK extra sprue also had some clever parts that dramatically changed the appearance of the model with few pieces, such as the crouching legs or the grenadier armour plate for the demolition expert.

The crouching legs are just on the regular sprue, though. They aren't part of the KT bits. Again, the extra pieces have been fairly minimal. Nothing as big as a new torso and legs.

Oh, I could've sworn the DKoK sprue had one of the two crouching legs. Clearly not on review.

It doesn't have entire torsos, but it has different packs and pieces like the torso armour plate which do change the look of the model significantly.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
That was literally part of the Pathfinder sprue for Tau.

And he was talking about the Kreiger sprue, so... ?

The conversation in general is about how much the KT upgrade sprues change the look of the models, so other KTs, like the pathfinders, are relevant.

I do think the Kroot options will look surprisingly varied. Typically there are two builds for most bodies, and they usually look quite distinct.

Oh, totally possible! I was just saying that it would be different from the norm. I suppose the peg leg on the Kroot could be the bit that's swapped, similar to how the Kreig Veteran gets a bionic arm. We will just have to see.

From GenCon, a new Kroot heavy weapon.

Looks like an alt-build of the heavy bowcaster (with three arms) shown off in the Kill Team box.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/08/04/kill-team-into-the-dark-whats-in-the-box/

I suspect that's some kind of breach weapon, looks like a short range thing.

 Olthannon wrote:
I suspect that's some kind of breach weapon, looks like a short range thing.

I'm going to say sonic, just because of the weird 'wings' that seem to pop up in sci-fi designs for sonic weapons on a regular basis.

 Olthannon wrote:
I suspect that's some kind of breach weapon, looks like a short range thing.

Looks almost like someone tried to make a high-tech version of an arrow basket. Could be a room-clearing shotgun-type device? Or closer to a claymore-onna-stick I suppose. Or it could be paradoxical super tech that does the same thing with gravity or something because people forget that the Kroot once got to eat a bunch of Ork mekz…

 Breotan wrote:
I'm more interested in how the terrain walls fit with the ZM terrain for Necromunda. It would be a great way to make more textured interiors if they didn't require a lot of work to fit properly.

I'm actually thinking that the walls for the new set, carefully cut in half, could easily become new ZM wall facings...

 schoon wrote:

 Breotan wrote:
I'm more interested in how the terrain walls fit with the ZM terrain for Necromunda. It would be a great way to make more textured interiors if they didn't require a lot of work to fit properly.

I'm actually thinking that the walls for the new set, carefully cut in half, could easily become new ZM wall facings...

If you have the tools for that, you don't need GW walls

Almost looks like it could be a grabber too, or incapacitating enemies up close.

As for the walls, I'm not sure what Zone Mortalis has over the thinner walls. I'd have thought you'd get a lot more space hulk wall for your sprue than ZM stuff.