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That’s certainly the one that excites me the least.
We’ve gotten some good Space Wolf books, but I feel like that’s been enough.

It's got some good bits and I'll pretty much read anything from BL (except Horror cos spooky and Crime because meh) but it firmly sits in the "Ok" section of opinions. It helps move bits of the wider story along but I'd be disappointed to see the story between the Primaris and Firstborn in it played out again and again in future novels. It's fine within Wolftime because it works well with the Wolves not liking outsiders but we've already had it in War of Secrets, Seth mentions he doesn't trust them in Devastation of Baal, and every other time both types show up there's always one character going "grrr these newfangled Primaris grind my gears with their Ipods and rollerskates". In fact, Apocalypse is the only novel with both Firstborn and Primaris in it that doesn't seem to do that, they actually get along well. If BL could drop that requirement it would be neato.

At least we haven't gotten any more gakky Salamanders stuff as of late, feels like the majority of HH books were about them at some point, really drawing out the pointless stuff, feth off already. Sorry, in a series already bloated with filler, most of the Salamanders stuff felt even more so like that to me. Do what Chris Wraith did with the White Scars, just two novels to deal with their arc, instead of all that bollocking about with "Vulkan lives!"

The horror stuff isn't all that great to be honest. In a setting where cosmic horror and the like are daily fare, a lot of these stories feel like novellas or short stories stretched into full novels that aren't really all that scary. Gothghul Hollow was great though, probably because they had revolvers and cartridge fed rifles, plus being very light on the AOS word salads. Horror audio dramas aren't half bad either, they make great use of ambient sound and good voice acting at least to set the tone.

Crime is hit and miss, Bloodlines is great, the others not so much, but YMMV obv. Ditto on the short story anthologies, again very hit and miss, some authors seem to just write stories in either setting to make the most of their f-bomb privileges they've got all of the sudden, looking at you Kyme. Nothing against swearing, but a well-placed f-strike is better than swearing up a storm. I do like that they've created a single new setting for the series, got together and made this extensive glossary of slang, terms, brands and whatnot, making it into more than just another generic Imperial world.

Assassinorum Kingmaker was really good btw, I love me some Knight stuff, but well written assassins being asses towards one another and being scheming sneaks was icing on the cake.

edit.

With regards to responding to Primaris marines, I liked how in the Alpha Legion novel Shroud of Night, the Alphas still killed them, but had a harder time and were genuinely worried about how big their loyalist cousins had gotten since they last stepped out of the eye of terror.

I very much enjoyed Gothgul.
Not read other horror aside from one of the short stories books which Was ok.
And any pre WHH range items they did and rereleased.

Crime there’s been some good ones, and the imprint in general I’m quite interested in seeing more from.

So I'm only a few pages into the new Gotrek book and

alphaecho wrote:

Alpharius
Saturnine
Fury of Magnus

Funny coincidence. That is exactly an order I would put them on, judging from the best to weakest (not that I think Fury is weak, simply not as good as other two).

 Overread wrote:
So I'm only a few pages into the new Gotrek book and

Spoiler:

I REALLY wish they'd settle down and decide what they are doing with Gotrek. I totally get that his system is to be a repeat adventure character visiting different realms and races. I get that. It was him and Felix doing that through a LOT of the Old World.

It just feels really forced right now when almost every event in the previous book is setup to then fall down with "and then he decided to be grumpy and walked off". It's a bit of a sting and annoyance that not only did they choose to end his sudden link with the Khadoran's but to also end it in effect "off stage".

I dislike major character events happening off-stage like that. At least if you're going to re-set him each time show us these events unfold so that it feels natural and not a "GW CEO says we can't do a long term Khadoran Storyline, he wants FishElves next book"

MALINETH NEEDS A MODEL GW

Totally agree with all - esp Malineth needing a model. I prefered Robbie Macnivens versions of the characers as well.

also

 Shadow Walker wrote:

alphaecho wrote:

Alpharius
Saturnine
Fury of Magnus

Funny coincidence. That is exactly an order I would put them on, judging from the best to weakest (not that I think Fury is weak, simply not as good as other two).

I haven't read Alpharius but there were parts of Saturnine that had me gripped. I really enjoyed it.

alphaecho wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:

alphaecho wrote:

Alpharius
Saturnine
Fury of Magnus

Funny coincidence. That is exactly an order I would put them on, judging from the best to weakest (not that I think Fury is weak, simply not as good as other two).

I haven't read Alpharius but there were parts of Saturnine that had me gripped. I really enjoyed it.

Alpharius is IMO the best Primarch novel released. Mike Brooks perfectly captured his/their character etc. There are also some very interested reveals (assuming they are true ).

Well, I'd be foolish not to pick it up for 99p then.

Saturnine is really good, great midway point of the series, after what felt like a lot of drawn out stuff that was building up to that point of the story, but actually delivered and gave some great moments. What a difference an author can make when handling certain characters.

Still need to read Alpharius, on the fence as I found most Primarch novels to be pointless filler, or rather poorly handled by the authors. The only one I really liked was the one about the Khan, which actually added to the overall arc of the White Scars by adding in some prequel groundwork.

Though not part of the Primarch series (but still falling in line with the whole prequel spirit of things), the Valdor novel is really ace and well worth a read.

 BrookM wrote:


Though not part of the Primarch series (but still falling in line with the whole prequel spirit of things), the Valdor novel is really ace and well worth a read.

Agreed. It was really one of the best prequels for HH.

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 BrookM wrote:


Though not part of the Primarch series (but still falling in line with the whole prequel spirit of things), the Valdor novel is really ace and well worth a read.

Agreed. It was really one of the best prequels for HH.

It nicely fills in what is basically, spoilered for size:



Also, the Imperium before it was the Imperium proper, following the first High Lords as they started to shape said Imperium, the building of the palace itself and whatever's going on in the dungeons.

Makes me want a Unification Wars series even more now, penned by Dan and Chris primarily.

 BrookM wrote:

Makes me want a Unification Wars series even more now, penned by Dan and Chris primarily.

Yeah, it would be awesome to read all that TW action etc. I would add Mike Brooks to the trio, and kept others miles away from the series. Also similar to Beast series it should have a pre-defined lenght, to avoid HH like bloat.

 BrookM wrote:
Saturnine is really good, great midway point of the series, after what felt like a lot of drawn out stuff that was building up to that point of the story, but actually delivered and gave some great moments. What a difference an author can make when handling certain characters.

Still need to read Alpharius, on the fence as I found most Primarch novels to be pointless filler, or rather poorly handled by the authors. The only one I really liked was the one about the Khan, which actually added to the overall arc of the White Scars by adding in some prequel groundwork.

Though not part of the Primarch series (but still falling in line with the whole prequel spirit of things), the Valdor novel is really ace and well worth a read.

I’ve just finished Corax, making it ten read so far. Ready to get through the rest. Alpharius is one I’ve been looking forward to on there.
Yeah most haven’t been super groundbreaking etc.
Was hoping for more “Primarch being found” stories for those we didn’t get in the Heresy or elsewhere.

What I’d also like is more Primarch’s “end stories”
We’ve had Ferrus, will have Sanguinius and Horus of course.
But I’ve started Dark Imperium and it goes back to Roboute’s fight with Fulgrim, I’d like to see more Last Thing They Did stories.
Obviously some may have them and I’ve just not read them yet, or can’t think of some.

But a nice list of where each ones story of getting Found and also Moving On etc would be good. See what gaps we have.

Haha, YMMV but I found the Beast series horrible, even with its short length it felt like an awful lot of padding was thrown in there for the sake of things.

Still need to read more of Mike Brooks, but he has put out a nice diverse selection of books so far, must investigate.

Also, next Space Shark novel when already?

 BrookM wrote:
Haha, YMMV but I found the Beast series horrible, even with its short length it felt like an awful lot of padding was thrown in there for the sake of things.

Agreed. it could be done much, much better. Still, the defined lenght was for the good. Imagine it being 20 books or more

Lord of the First is one of the few BL books I've really enjoyed lately, audiobook version is also good.

Prince Maesa getting a novel, looks to finish off his narrative(or at least part of it?). I've liked his stories since he was introduced when Shadespire came out.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/05/18/the-wandering-aelven-prince-maesa-returns-to-black-library-with-a-novel-of-his-own-by-guy-haley/

Not a massive fan of the author, but was pleasantly surprised by the series of short stories he did revolving around the characters all meeting up in a keep for the night.

The coming soon page on WarCom has been cleared out again, no new titles added as of yet, they're slacking off again.

Hey does anyone know if BL / GW are making fluff / sourcebooks still? I ask because I don't remember seeing any at all for some time now and I've been considering expanding my collection after selling off a load of classic books of this type some years ago (I kept my favourites but I sold off plenty of good and rare ones and for some reason I felt a bit of regret about that lately and I think the best way to remedy it is to buy some more).

They get random reprint runs sometimes of the ones they've published before. And sometimes there's a new one that comes along.

However they are always very random when or if they do such things. Sometimes what can be good is keeping an eye on Humble Bundle for if they do a Cubical 7 PDF release of some of the RPG stuff as they've done a few of them and the yare always good for getting a bunch of lore style books.

Was the last one they published Xenology 2: Blackstone Boogaloo?
Which they printed about twelve copies of, at a million pounds each...

JWBS wrote:
Hey does anyone know if BL / GW are making fluff / sourcebooks still?

I think last year's "Liber Xenologis - Blackstone Fortress" is the most recent one.

They also did a reprint of the Sabbat World Crusade around the same time IIRC.


Also..!



I've already read the three novella's, but never the eshorts or wherever those were published before, so yay!

Also-also..!



Not my legion, but the author has yet to disappoint me, so a must-have for me whenever they release the non-limited pauper edition.

Overread wrote:They get random reprint runs sometimes of the ones they've published before. And sometimes there's a new one that comes along.

However they are always very random when or if they do such things. Sometimes what can be good is keeping an eye on Humble Bundle for if they do a Cubical 7 PDF release of some of the RPG stuff as they've done a few of them and the yare always good for getting a bunch of lore style books.

Needs to be physical copies for me when it comes to this type of book.

Oh wow they heard my prayer! (The Wraight Sanguinius one that is, from a different thread it seems)

JWBS wrote:Would be amazing if they came out of leftfield with an Abnett or Wraight Sanguinius though.

I'd love to see Dan do more stuff, but he's too locked into Gaunt, Eisenhorn and Siege of Terra right now, alongside his 2000AD, Marvel and DC writing.

Chris is a great writer though, his Scars and Valdor stuff is just great, no filler or bloat to boot.

Oooooh man. Just disapointed to see that none of the Primarchs books has been written by ADB. I love that dude

Straight audio purchase for me.
I’ve done the first 10 Primarch books, so will get back to them at some point.

Just finished Dark Imperium, was a good read/listen

Garrac wrote:
Oooooh man. Just disapointed to see that none of the Primarchs books has been written by ADB. I love that dude

He’s one of the best, but notoriously slow and has other book series’ I’d rather he be writing for tbh.